sweet liberty 2006 Jackie & Alan

September 20th, 2006 Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

Jackie Patru: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight, on Sweet Liberty. Today is Wednesday and it is the 20th of September in the year 2006. I hope you’ve had a nice week since we talked last, folks. Well, actually, I was on with Darren last night. I don’t know how many of you listen to Darren. I urge you to do so. Darren was going to be on, Darren Weeks, was going be with us this evening. He’s discovered, and I wanted to mention this, before we bring Alan up, Alan Watt is with us. Alan, thanks for being here by the way.

Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie: I don’t want to leave you sitting there in the quiet. Darren discovered a theme in Michigan; it’s in the Michigan legislature. In fact, after it was introduced, it had already been passed through Senate committee. This was on a fast track. It is a vaccine folks, and the reason I’m telling you about this, well, I’ll tell you anyway, but when Darren began doing his research, he found that 45 states’ legislatures are already messing with this stuff again. And this is a vaccine that is mandated for sixth grade girls in the government indoctrinational system we once called schools. It is a mandated vaccine for sixth grade girls, those are girls, what ten and eleven years, sixth girls, and it is to prevent cervical cancer. Darren has done a lot of research on it, and he speaks about it Monday. His broadcasts are archived on Sweet Liberty, of course, or originally they’re archived at First Amendment Radio. And, then after a period of time, but if you are not subscribing to First Amendment Radio, you might want to do that, because you get the archives, then the same day, next day, if you don’t hear the broadcast live. He will, he had the guest on Monday. He’s interviewing a woman who’s actually in the legislature. And the insidious thing, what’s happening in Michigan is the legislator, she’s a Senator, who introduced this thing, when Darren called her office about it, the assistant secretary that he spoke with said, oh, she has been spending a lot of time on this. She’s working with a group that’s helping her with it. Well, he found out that the group is called Women in Government. He went to their
website, guess who their sponsors are, Women in Government, Merck and GlaxoSmithKline. Those are two pharmaceutical companies, and it just so happens folks that Merck is the only pharmaceutical now that has this vaccine ready. It hasn’t been tested for safety, of course. And when he went to the Merck site and pulled this up, I don’t recall what it is. Darren will be speaking about it again Monday night, and interviewing the woman from the State Legislature. I don’t think she’s a rep or a Senator, but she works there in the Legislature. He found out that this thing has aluminum in it. I don’t know what other ingredients. It is supposedly, again, a vaccine, that would prevent cervical cancer. It’s interesting, I didn’t know this, because I don’t watch the news, and I don’t get mainstream television, but my sis said, for the last two months, they’ve been talking about this on, evidently the news and different programs, that they have discovered that cervical cancer comes from a virus, so now they’re planning on shoving more of these chemicals into young children. I want you to know about it, and I think you ought to check into your state and see. Darren has written an article about it, he’s going to post it at Sweet Liberty, so all the information will be there, and I hope you will look into it, and at least make a call. Make a call to your legislator. Your state legislator doesn’t’ know what’s the ingredients in these stupid things. And call informed, and let them know, at least in Michigan, because maybe this Women in Government group is pushing it through all the states, folks. Maybe that’s how, what Merck is using as the tool to get this into the states. Women in Government, you might want to write that down. Go to their website, because it may be, may be, as I was saying, it may be that they’re pushing it in all the states, five of them now. Alan, here we go again, huh.

Alan: Yes. I’m not surprised. Jackie: I’m not surprised either.
Alan: And of course, we know from long study that the inoculations that they gave in the past had nothing to do with what they claimed. They were for alternate purposed. And it’s nothing new, it’s been known for around sixty, seventy years that virus, that the human papilloma virus is what the wart, the venereal wart is what starts off as cervical cancer. That’s always been known.

Jackie: No, you’re kidding me. Alan: No.
Jackie: Is a war a virus?

Alan: Yeah, it’s called by a virus, you see. And it’s not the same exactly as you get on your skin elsewhere. But it’s just as contagious, maybe even more so.

Jackie: Is it a form of herpes, Alan?

Alan: No, no. It’s a virus family, but it’s different. It causes little warts inside, generally the vagina. Women can carry them for many years without knowing. For guys, it’s obviously more obvious. And they’re terribly, terribly hard to get rid of. But it would be quite the thing to claim they’ve got a particular antidote to this, a preventative, because, like all viruses, there’s so many strains and varieties, you know.

Jackie: Right.

Alan: So, I very much doubt this has to do with what they’re claiming. I don’t trust them at all, in fact, when you go into the history of vaccinations.

Jackie: Of course not. And then when he looked into the ingredients, aluminum is present, Alan. Alan: And that causes Alzheimer’s.
Jackie: Exactly.
Alan: And there would be other. I’ll tell you another thing too. When they tell you something like aluminum, it’s often to sidetrack you for you to focus on that, while there’s another thing that’s much more ominous inside there.

Jackie: Even worse.

Alan: Yeah. It will attack the hormonal system I have no doubt, because they want to bring down the population drastically. Yeah. Yeah.

Jackie: And they’re doing it in all their insidious and evil ways.

Alan: And it’s highly Masonic. I mean Merck is Mercury, the messenger. That’s why they called it Merck, you know. And the high Masons love Mercury the messenger.

Jackie: Maybe that’s why they use thimerosal.

Alan: Yeah, mm, hmm. That’s right, Mercury comes from it. Yeah. And Women in Government is just WIG by the way. Ha, ha, ha. Maybe the stuff makes your hair fall out. I don’t know.

Jackie: Is Wig.

Alan: Yeah, W-I-G, yeah. But what I was going to say was… Jackie: It’s a cover up.
Alan: I know there was one woman, there’s probably a few, but there’s one woman in a video I watched to do with Monsanto’s modified food, and this woman worked for the federal drug administration and so she was in politics, back into the FDA, and then she was into Monsanto, into them, back and forth, five times, from Monsanto back to working for the government. I wonder if it’s the same one. So they have their own agents in the government, you see.

Jackie: This state legislator…

Alan: Yeah, he’d have to dig up her history, yeah.

Jackie: Yeah, well, she was, I don’t think she’s at present, I think she just recently finished as the chairman of the board of Women in Government. And their sponsor being Merck, you would think this is a tremendous.

Alan: Conflict. Yeah.

Jackie: Conflict of interest. I’ll tell you what Darren did. He went to the newsroom, you know, he’s an engineer at a TV station, he told them about it, and they did a thing on it, and they mentioned that it sounded like a conflict of interest, and once he’s got the ingredients and understands what’s in it, he’s going to ask them to follow up. But then to find out that it is in 45 states. On thing I wanted to say to our listeners, this is a mandated thing, folks. Every single state has an opt-out form, that parents can opt their children out of the vaccines and they can’t be kicked out of school. They will not tell you that. But that is so. And I know in Missouri as a matter of fact, when Nicole was, she actually called Health and Human Services to get a copy of an opt out form, when they were mandating Ashley’s grade, the all had to have the tetanus vaccine, Alan. And when she got up to the school, I guess almost the entire class was being sent home, because they weren’t vaccinated. And she told them that she was going to be signing an opt-out form. She had one coming from Health and Human Services. And the lady said, “Well, honey, we have them right there. And she handed on to Nicole, and that’s all it was. It didn’t have to be any religious, philosophical, just, there’s an opt-out form. The problem is, when they mandate this, most of the parents don’t know they can opt their children out of them.

Alan: I know. And even though you can opt out, they’ll still try sort of covert threatening and children’s aid, etc. But

you’re up against the whole bureaucracy of NGOs. The Children’s Aid Society by the way is non governmental. I hope people realize that.

Jackie: What?

Alan: It’s a nongovernmental institution. Jackie: What did you say again?
Alan: The Children’s Aid Society.

Jackie: Children’s Aid Society? I’ve never heard of that.

Alan: Well, Children’s Aid is the same thing as the Child, what do you call it in the States? Jackie: Children’s Family Service?
Alan: Yeah. Because these actually started up as NGOs, non-governmental organizations and simply got funding eventually from government, but they’re still classified as basically private institutions. So, they often threaten the parents with these different services if they refuse to go along with their particular.

Jackie: In the States here Alan, Family, they have different names for them, but it’s the Department of Family. They have different names for them. But it’s an agency. There are bureaucrats that work in them. It is an agency that has been created by the State Legislature. And they create these agencies. And it’s of course such broad language, and there is so much leeway given, so much latitude given that there’s almost no stopping. I mentioned this I believe last night, because Darren Weeks asked me to come on with him. Here in Pennsylvania I was talking to a Secretary of one of our state reps, and she said whenever somebody has called the office to ask for help, for Children’s Family Services, I’m not sure what they call them here, are harassing them and threatening them, he’d call to try to help a constituent, here’s what he was told: You created us. You gave us this power. And there’s nothing you can do about it. So not even the state legislature who created the monster, not even they can interfere.

Alan: Well, we are living under tyranny. There’s no doubt about it. And it’s interesting that Carl Jung, back in the 1950s, who really was way superior to any Freud they put out there, his worst vision of the future that he was sure was coming by the science that he saw then wasn’t just an iron curtain across a country, like Germany or whatever. He saw an iron wall around the whole planet of bureaucracy that would stifle all free thought and existence. And he was quite right. That’s what we’re coming into now.

Jackie: Karl Marx, now, I don’t know if this true, just because I read it, but I read that Karl Marx didn’t write all of his writings, he was just a front person.

Alan: He was a front. Engels supplied a lot of the writing too.

Jackie: Okay, and so, he saw this. No, he didn’t see this. It was in the plan, yes?

Alan: Well, it was Lenin who wrote about it himself. Lenin said that the time would come in the West, towards the Millennium. He was talking about 2000, and he wrote this back in the early 1900s, he said, a time would come in the West, where Bureaucracies would be so all-pervasive and so numerous that they’d be overstepping each other’s boundaries, causing confusion as they battled for power between themselves. And he said, this is a stage that the world must go through. He knew the whole agenda. So, we have to go through this stage of apparent confusion over regulation, until even the bureaucrats are stepping over each other, different departments, and then they come out with the new system, the new society, yeah. Yeah. Everything is planned, even the crisis, yeah.

Jackie: Yeah, well, of course. I read. I’ll tell you what I did. I was looking for a particular article in my files, in my email files. I have a jillion folders. And so I did a search. I wasn’t able to find it, but I remembered reading and this

was I believe a newspaper report, that the US Congress, I may have even mentioned it when I had it emailed to me. That the US Congress had shortened the time, the required time for the pharmaceuticals to test their new drugs.
The time it was shortened to was eight weeks, Alan.

Alan: I know, and even then. Eight weeks. Yeah, yeah. I know, it’s pathetic, but then again, it falls right into the agenda, because remember, Carroll Quigley himself, who was the historian, he was the official historian for the secretive CFR organization, which is the American branch of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, and he said, right in there, that the New World Order will consist of a new type of feudal system with corporations taking the parts of the warlords and nobility. So, we’re finding more and more so that the legislation is getting passed on behalf of massive international corporations. That’s happening. And look at all the politicians, all these lawyers, corporate lawyers. They’ve been either working for these corporations before they go into politics, or they go into them after they’ve left politics. So, it’s one in the same thing, really. So, private corporations are getting their way. We saw it here in Canada quite a few years ago, when we found out, through Britain, through a protest that was happening in Britain when Tony Blair was pushing through the modified food, the genetically modified vegetables, it came out, it leaked out from the NGOs in Britain, who were protesting that Canadians had been using this stuff for ten years and they hadn’t told the populace. So, the government had to come out within a statement, and they did admit in all the newspapers, they’d signed a secret agreement with Monsanto and others to test this stuff on the Canadians. A secret agreement from your own government.

Jackie: Your own government. Alan: Uh, huh.
Jackie: They aren’t our government.

Alan: I know. I know. I mean this Mickey Mouse show is getting pathetic. But that’s what they give us.

Jackie: When you think about, I suppose, do you think Parliament, I would imagine so, in Canada, is it a corporation like the US government inc.

Alan: Yeah, yeah.

Jackie: They’re all corporations. Alan: They’re all patterned after the.
Jackie: Paul Martin. Is Paul Martin still there?

Alan: No, well, he’s not there now. He’s working for the UN as far as I know. Jackie: Oh, who’s the new guy?
Alan: Oh, it’s Harper, Steven Harper. Jackie: Steven Harper. Okay.
Alan: Yeah.

Jackie: So, he’s the CEO.

Alan: He is the CEO, yeah. He’s, yeah. Jackie: Like Bush.

Alan: But they’re not the admirals, they’re only the captains of the ship. Jackie: They’re more like the janitors. Let’s face it.
Alan: Yeah. I know, I know, it’s rather sad and pathetic to try and try and even pretend to yourself that these guys are in charge of you. Because they’re not. They’re going along with an old agenda. We can read their predecessors who wrote books on it. And it doesn’t matter which party gets in, the agenda steamrolls ahead, because the bureaucracies are there forever, regardless of who appears to be the front man in Parliament. The bureaucracies are there for life, forever. Yeah.

Jackie: And they have schools for the bureaucrats. Alan: They do.
Jackie: For the children of the bureaucrats.

Alan: They’re all intergenerational at the federal level. I read that recently. I know you said that.

Jackie: I read that just recently. It was some particular individual I was reading and that he had gone to school as the child of a bureaucrat, he went to the school for bureaucrats, to grow up a bureaucrat.

Alan: And they marry each other too. It’s a closed society. They always live in a specific area of each capitol city of every nation, and they intermarry and go to the same social clubs, and they don’t really mingle with the general population. So, they’re a class to themselves really, yeah. But they know when they go into a department that they’re schooled into what their function will be there, their role will be for their whole life, what they have to push forward. And H.G. Wells talked about that when he did the write up on the League of Nations, the precursor of the United Nations.

Jackie: It will lead to peace?

Alan: Yeah. He said that basically now, he says, with the League of Nations, it is the Embryo of World Parliament. He says and every country has its bureaucrats who can now correspond directly with equivalent bureaucracies at the League of Nations. Now, that’s the same today. They don’t even have to go through the politicians. Yeah.

Jackie: But the politicians have assisted them in the first place. Every single agency started, I have a report, a UN report from 3 meetings that were back in the 1950s. One was in the Soviet Union and one was in Switzerland. I don’t recall where the third one was. And that was when they were talking about, gosh, it has to do with the Housing Administration. Yes. I think that’s what, HUD, over here. That was before HUD was even formed. And I got to looking up in the encyclopedia to see when HUD was created, and it was right after that meeting took hold. It was a regional governance, the oh, geez, there was a quote in there that that main purpose for this particular individual was the transfer of land from private to public use. That was back in 1950. And then all of these, they kept using these phrases. They all related to different agencies that are here in the US, and as you said, they’re all brothers and sisters across the world, created under the auspices of the United Nations.

Alan: Yeah, that’s a fact.

Jackie: And we have the United Nations report here, where they plan to become a true World Parliamentary Government.

Alan: Yeah. Yeah, they’ve said in many statements that their function is to eventually become the World’s Government. They’ve said it quite openly.

Jackie: So, they need their own army. They need their own taxing agenda. And they need, the only thing that was lacking they said was the People’s Parliament, the Voice of the People.

Alan: Oh, the Voice of the People.

Jackie: The Voice of the People would be the nongovernmental organizations. Alan: Yeah. The Soviet.
Jackie: That’s the Voice of the People.

Alan: That’s the Soviet. That’s what Soviet means, NGOs, yeah. Jackie: Rule by Council?
Alan: Yeah, that’s right. Unelected councils, and just like the Soviet Union, they claim to speak for the people. The people demand this, the people demand that, but each head of the organization was appointed by the Soviet Politburo itself. So, it won’t be any different here. We know that.

Jackie: Of course not. Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: But when you have all of these thousands, because there are thousands of them. As a matter of fact, any listener who might be interested, they’re in our United Nations section, at Sweetliberty.org. There’s a report that was done on, in fact, it was “Peace by Pieces” and it was all about the nongovernmental organizations, how they were going to bring the New World Order in by these Organizations. I think the thing was done, it came from the University of Pennsylvania, and it may have been ’43. It could have been ’34. I don’t know. It was back, way back, and already they said there were 2700 hundred of them.

Alan: Yeah, and it started in the 1700s, and it started initially by the big, the foundations, philanthropists they called it at the time, the multi-millionaires of the day, very high Freemasons too. And they’d all got together and decided how to take the world over, and of course, money was the key, so they’d have to control the world’s resources and get to the top, then they could finance and front these little NGO groups, and it’s gone on steadily since then. These, the big NGOs are not grass roots at all, never were. They have big buildings, a lot of them, computerized equipment all over the place on different floors. They have pension plans. So they’re not grass roots. These are authorized and funded by the Ford, Carnegie, Rockefeller Foundations, and many others, yeah.

Jackie: People would be, they’d be interested to know that the Boy and Girl Scouts of America, it’s international, and it is considered an NGO. And YM and YWCAs are non-governmental organizations, recognized by the United Nations.

Alan: Yeah. That’s right. So, it’s the same old con. The pretense that there’s someone there to speak for you. And as long as the pretense is there, most of the public goes along with it. Yeah. Yeah.

Jackie: I wanted our listeners to know about this so that they can look into it. I understand that Pennsylvania is one of the states, and I’m going to take a look into it and at least give the State Legislature a call, my state rep, and state senator. I don’t know what the situation is here, but it behooves each of us to check it out, because you have no idea the difference you make. And that’s true. I know that’s true.

Alan: And you’ve got to hit something at the beginning, if possible before it begins. Once it’s underway it becomes, it becomes normal so quickly, you know. You’ve got to hit things right away to stop things. You can’t let them start and then hit them. It’s very difficult then to stop something.

Jackie: And you know there are, I know that it’s frustrating for people who are awake and who are waking up. Well, we’re all waking up, but the process of waking up. Some of us have woken a little before others, but it’s frustrating

when they try to talk to friends, neighbors, associates, family, and you know, they get the eyes rolling up and, but here’s how I feel about this. If we know something that can affect their loved ones and them, then it’s our responsibility to say it, because it is planting seeds. Like you said, not to go out there and start preaching, but just say it. And then if they care and say, whoa, tell me more about this, then you have a person with some active gray matter.

Alan: And you stay on the topic. You see, people generally know so many different areas where everything is happening; they overload the person, rather than stick on a topic. You know, and leave it with them at that, until maybe the next time. Yeah.

Jackie: Or lets say ask a question. A lot of times, they’re talking to somebody, then it sparks a question in their mind.

Alan: Yeah. That’s okay. Yeah. Jackie: If they ask, then that’s fine.
Alan: And keep, again, it’s short, because you could probably give them enough knowledge for a book on each topic. You don’t’ realize how much you’ve stored up in your head. So, you only give them enough on each topic for the time being. And that’s how you can do it. Because you’re talking to people who swallowed their conditioned reality and they truly believe that if there’s anything really, really worth knowing the media will tell them.

Jackie: Yeah right.

Alan: They really believe that.

Jackie: And I have an example. I think we’re about out of our first half hour. So, I don’t think I have time. It isn’t long, but I don’t want to be interrupted. So that our listeners see that it can happen. Then, at least you said it, and that is our responsibility. I just don’t see that any other way, Alan.

Alan: I know. I know.

Jackie: I just don’t see it any other way. Folks, we’re going to be back right after this, in about three minutes, so, you stay with us. I’m Jackie Patru, in case you’re a new listener. And Alan Watt is our guest this evening, as usual.
We’ll be right back here. (Commercial Break)
Jackie: Alright, we’re back. Alan, before we get started, tell the listeners about what you have to offer, you’re DVD and the books, etc.

Alan: Yeah. If they go to cuttingthroughthematrix.com, they can look at the videos. I’ve also got the first one which is free on the site, the first DVD on Reality Check. They can also purchase it, if they want to, for other people that don’t have computers.

Jackie: That’s nice. You’ve got that on DVD now. Alan: Yeah, mm, hmm.
Jackie: Oh, that’s nice.

Alan: Because a lot of people don’t have computers, and it plays on the DVD player for your TV. And I’ve got more CDs coming out too.

Jackie: Now, you have Reality Check 2. Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: But you have Reality Check 1 on DVD? Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Okay, both of them are available. Oh, that’s cool. And the first one is for people to watch free, if they want to. But they can purchase it to show their friends and family, etc. And the other one is for purchase only, Reality Check 2. And your books.

Alan: And there’s the three books there, the Cutting Through Series. It was a form of deprogramming, which it does work. I’ve had a lot of people who have; it’s not what they expect. It’s not with the usual boring, this happened in the year so and so. It’s a method of showing you what’s in front of you that you’ve missed, to show you that you’re living in not just deception, but even the deception of the language we’re given is so coded. And once they understand it, it becomes obvious to them. And the higher Freemasons use these codes all the time. And I’ve got another one coming out. It will be about a month’s time hopefully, that goes further into this whole coding business, for those who have already caught up on the last three books. Yeah.

Jackie: A de-programming.

Alan: Yes. Yeah, because you have to de-program people. It’s not just a matter of, see, here’s the trick that’s played on us, apart from the fact that we’re brainwashed into a version of Reality.

Jackie: But we’re born into it, Alan.

Alan: You’re born into it. And if your parents don’t know to tell you how it works, you would think it’s normal. Which means anything can be normal to a child brought up in any system. And so, you have to show them, by history too, that this was a planned society, and it’s to be a planned world. It’s all coming together. All the laws are coming together. The legalities, so they can merge the whole planet quite smoothly as they did with the merger of Europe. They merged the country’s laws together, quietly, over a period of fifty years. And eventually, they started to standardize the money, bring some down and value some up, so they could simply merge into the Euro. They’re doing the same in North America here, with Latin America. So, everything that happens is planned. Nothing just happens at the time. And these front meetings that we see, where they put their signature on something as presidents, that’s just a show for the public. In reality, the negotiations and all the footwork were done by bureaucrats and lawyers for the last fifty years, you know. So, I go through this kind of stuff to show the people, it’s much, much deeper.

You can’t play the game of politics, it’s totally corrupt. Always was. Politicians are vetted long before the public even hear their names to vote for. They’re vetted by the big boys. And the ones that are chosen go along with the agenda. That’s their job. Politics is a front in itself for the agenda. And it stops the people from revolting every four or five years, and that’s why they gave this so called democratic system, beginning with Britain. They found that the public was generally, they were so over-taxed over hundreds of years and all the wars that came along after the Rothschilds took over the bank, and they got a standing army, paid for by the tax payer, the people were so over taxed, they knew they’d have a Revolution every four or five years, so they gave them this thing called democracy, and carried on as usual with the some antics. But the people think, well, we’ve got a chance. We can get these guys out. And that’s what you do in these countries. You vote the last lot of politicians out, hoping the next bunch will be better. And it never is.

Jackie: Well, today, at least here in the US, and I don’t know how many countries are using the computer voting machines.

Alan: Oh, yeah.

Jackie: In the US today, voting is actually futile. I mean, because your vote could be changed. Alan: It always was though.
Jackie: Not always, not this easy.

Alan: Well, I’ll tell you, what I found strange, I only went to a voting office once, and that was because someone told me to meet them there. I’m proud to say, I’ve never voted for anything or anybody in my life. I was never fooled.
But I went to this one, in Ontario here, to meet someone, and every woman that was counting the votes in that office had an Eastern Star Badge on. That’s no coincidence. You know, and Stalin himself, said, I don’t care.

Jackie: They weren’t counted right in the public, at the voting precinct itself? Alan: Yeah, yeah.
Jackie: They weren’t?

Alan: Oh, they were counted in there, but all the staff there that were in charge of all the boxes and in the counting were all these women with Eastern Star Badges on.

Jackie: And the public wasn’t allowed in, while the counting was going.

Alan: No, no. And Stalin himself said, I don’t care who votes for whom, he says. He says, that’s irrelevant. He says, I only care about the one that counts them. Yeah, so, yeah. So, it’s a con game. It always was.

Jackie: What I wanted to say before we got on that subject and back off it again, when we were talking about it being our responsibility at least to inform people. My sis and I went grocery shopping the other day, and stopped and had lunch, and she accidentally put aspartame, or I think it was that, it might have been Splenda, in her coffee cup, and she took a sip and she said, whoa. So, she asked the waitress if she could please have another cup, and it was a new cup of coffee. And she says, oh, that’s great. I use that. I’ll drink it myself. And she started walking away.
And I said, “Was it Splenda you put in your coffee?” “Yeah.” And I said, “No Splenda, no Splenda.” as she was walking away, and she turned around. And she said, “No Splenda?” And I said, “No.” So she came back. And she asked me about it. And I said, “No. It’s a real bad move, any of the artificial sweeteners. I said, just do a search on your search engine for Splenda; asked her if she had a computer. I said, just do a search for Splenda and you will find out about it. And she said, “Thank you.” And that was the end of it. And I mean, she meant it, Alan. She wasn’t just, oh, I’m a customer, so humor me. She was very appreciative to hear that. She had no idea. It took about three minutes. And anything like that.

Alan: Oh, yeah. You can’t really stop yourself. I mean, I can’t. Yeah. Jackie: You can’t?
Alan: Yeah. And there’s so many opportunities.

Jackie: Every time somebody says something, it’s an opening isn’t it? Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: It really is. And then, then there comes a time when you just have to gulp, because everything they say is an opening. Everything they say. But when it comes to, when it comes to things like that, it’s so, it’s killing. It’s killing. It’s our responsibility to say it. Whether they listen or not, it is of course to be their own responsibility. And you know, I may have said this already. I may have said it on the air. But this thought has been in my mind. If I knew Alan, when I was a young woman. If I knew what this world was like, I don’t think I would have ever brought children

into the world. Alan, I mean that.

Alan: Well, I decided that before I had a woman. (Chuckle) Yeah. I knew it then. Yeah.

Jackie: You knew it, but I didn’t. And then I think to myself, well you know what, who are we to say who’s to be here? Because there are people who come up. And I read some, in fact, I wanted to use it tonight as our spiritual message. It was spiritual I guess in a sense. But, basically what it said was that something about today there are so few that are doing so much for so many. But it had to do with the people who are awake and who are waking up.

Alan: Mm, hmm. Yeah, because we are at a crucial time. In the past, it wasn’t so urgent. It was always there, boiling away, simmering away, but now it’s urgent, because we know, they’ve published so much on their scientific data. They’ve had so many world meetings of scientists of what to do with the public, the type of public they wish to have in the very, very near future. And we know it’s a robotic type society. So, that’s why it’s so urgent now, you see. Yeah. Because those who are growing up now are the ones who are going to go through the biggest changes that’s ever been seen here for probably thousands of years. Yeah.

Jackie: Do you think this is the end of an age?

Alan: Oh, it is the end of an age. There’s no doubt, yeah. Jackie: Well, I mean, it’s the end of the Age of Pisces and… Alan: Yeah. And with that.
Jackie: Do they? No, but, I want to ask you a question. They refer to that as an Age?

Alan: Yes. To them, it’s the period of time, in every age, in every age their have their agenda scheduled out. Jackie: So, is that every twenty some hundred years?
Alan: Yeah, it’s over twenty-five and a half thousand, really in a sense. Now, they knew, if you notice, history went along with the usual conquering stuff, the building up of empires in the traditional fashion, with the backing of the money lenders and the taxations of the conquered people. It went on quite the same, and so did agriculture and so on, until about the 1500s. And it was in the 1500s, as though an alarm bell went off. Suddenly there was this explosion of Rosicrucianism throughout Europe. And it was always Rosicrucians in amongst around the Royal Families, the advisors and so on. And they were into the sciences. Suddenly science was very important to them, because they knew though, it had only about five hundred years left to complete the mission that through science they would conquer all or finish off the period for the age. And that’s why they’ve had this tremendous rush since the 1500s.

Jackie: So, you’re saying, according to them, an Age is a full cycle of the zodiacal ages. Alan: It’s called the Great Zodiac, yeah.
Jackie: The Great Zodiac, because according to, you know, what I’ve read, and I think we’ve talked about it, during the time when Jesus was here, that’s why they, the sign of the fish, Aquarius. And that was about 2000 years ago. So, isn’t each of those inner ages about twenty some hundred years?

Alan: Yeah. So, that’s really what it is. It’s broken down. Now, within the Great Cycle, one particular sign predominates, just as you do in the annular cycle. And so, they have all the mini ones in-between them. So, at the end of the age, technically, we’re going into, this is Aquarius. And they’ve been arguing about the exact moment of reaching Aquarius, for the last 60 years. Yeah. And the Theosophy Society came out with different debates on this. Yeah.

Jackie: So, in this Age, this Great Age, there’s one particular sign predominant? Alan: That’s Aquarius, the Water Bearer.
Jackie: I mean, the Great Age, the whole 25,000 years.

Alan: They do, they do have a sort of symbol for it, occultic symbol. Some of them have different occultic symbols to confuse it all, because, they claim that every, and I really, I truly believe this, because, if you were to study, supposing the so-called civilization as they call it. Let’s take the standard nonsense we’re fed here. Life begins at Sumer, or civilization begins at Sumer. That’s nonsense. Sumer came on the scene fully fledged as a system, with its money form, with its even, receipts. You could get a baked clay receipt at the market within 15 minutes. They’ve found millions of them. And they have all these priesthoods that acted as bureaucrats in governmental departments, you might say, governing all trade, domestic and foreign.

Jackie: How could a humungous, was Sumer a city?

Alan: It was both city and cities. Some of them include Maree to the Northwest, as part of the whole Sumer area. It was really Akadia they called it, the whole area. Akadia.

Jackie: Could you spell that?

Alan: Some of them use K, A-K-A-D-I-A. Jackie: Akadia, A-K, okay.
Alan: Other ones use the C, but it’s up to the person.

Jackie: But how in the world, out of almost nowhere, how did they gather, this many people.

Alan: Well, we know they came down from the Highland areas to the Northeast of them, and they brought the seed with them, which meant there was a previous agricultural civilization existing to have the seed. You see, nomadic peoples don’t keep seed and plan. They’re always on the move. So, these people came from the mountainous areas, and brought this system with them. So they had to have gotten it not only from a previous age. Now, to knock out the nonsense that we just sort of evolved from there, piecemeal by good luck or whatever, here’s the clue. They knew astronomy inside out, even at the beginning of Sumer. Now, if you were to follow all of the stars.

Jackie: Even fifteen hundred years ago.

Alan: Yeah, even if you followed all the stars, and all the planets, and the risings and settings, and the different comets that come and go, etc, to get one great year, you’d have to have studied it for twenty five and a half thousand years already to be sure it would happen exactly the same way again. You see what I’m saying? If you just watched it one time around, you couldn’t be certain it was going to come in the same sequence again. So, man is far, far older, with knowledge, intellect, methods of obviously translating this, or putting this information down and teaching it to others. To have had that extreme knowledge at the beginning of Sumer. So, that’s the key to that.
We’re not supposed to know. So, getting back to what we’re saying here. They plan the ages. Now, the mini-ages are with each two thousand, it’s over two thousand years, again another sign will predominate. So, you’ll have within the Great Zodiac, you had Pisces for the time of Jesus. The fish was the symbol, long before the cross, and even after the cross it was used for two hundred years before the cross was officially made the Christian symbol.
And they had the two thousand years mapped out. In other words, their goal was mapped out at the beginning. Jackie: What do you know about the giants that were here?
Alan: I don’t go along with all of that.

Jackie: I’ve been reading some stuff. Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: One of the things came from Ohio, and they actually, they actually showed the reports. You know how the little town halls or the county seats that we have now, where their records were kept. This was maybe 1800 and some time. They dug up; they found all kinds of bones. And this was reported and it was recorded in the public records. And these people were eight, nine, ten feet tall, large, and they had double rows of teeth. They showed jaws in them, Alan. And then, evidently there are some of the American Indians that were here before us. I don’t know, why do we call them Indians, because.

Alan: Oh, it’s a Masonic con game, yeah.

Jackie: Right. Because, they said they thought he landed on India. Alan: I know, I know. It’s a Masonic con game, yeah.
Jackie: What kind of words to say for those people. But anyway, but in their lore, a lot of them said that there were giants here before they were here. And the one story, of course, it’s oral history, so we know where there’s smoke there’s fire, and I suppose it changes down through the years, but there were red bearded ones and black bearded ones. And then it reminded me of when we had talked about those red-haired people, you know, like in Egypt, the Pharaohs, and then over there in China.

Alan: And even the heads of kings and queens for Sumer. We knew they wore black wigs, because they found them in their graves.

Jackie: They were redheaded too. Well, that reminded me of that, but I’m not so sure, Alan, that there weren’t a very large race of people here at one time.

Alan: It’s possible that you’ll have aberrations, even within groups. We still have different aberrations in some African tribes, where they all had six toes, for instance, the whole tribe, every member. And fingers as well. So, you’ll get these things happening within peoples who interbreed intensively, if there’s already a dominant gene there. It will get passed on. And they’ll start losing it, if they start breeding out, you see.

Jackie: Well, I’m going to, I’d like to look into this further, I’ve found it very fascinating.

Alan: And the problem with the 1800s, I mean, I know, in the 1800s, there was so many, there was so much going on, there was an awful lot of con games going on in the 1800s too, in the US, and that’s when P.T. Barnum took over, because someone came out and claimed they had found a giant, and they put it on display or something, and then it was stolen. So, he, or some of his friends came up with one, they made it themselves and claimed it was the real thing, and they toured the whole of the US with it for a few years. And then admitted it was a fake. So, there was so much nonsense going on at the time, it’s hard to tell, because we weren’t there, really you know.

Jackie: I know, well, we weren’t there for any of this. Alan: Yeah, yeah. So, really we just don’t know.
Jackie: I just wondered.

Alan: And I don’t know if they’ve even, if they’ve, if they still had, and even then, after the Piltdown Man that was taught that it was taught as fact, and people had thesis for their universities, and they passed it on this whole Piltdown Man nonsense.

Jackie: What was the Piltdown Man?

Alan: Well, they had it on display to try and prove it was a missing link for evolution, to try and prove. And then it came out, after years and years on display and taught in every school across the world as a fact, when they eventually did test it, the jaw was that of a pig stuck onto a gorilla’s skull. So, they do these cons in history in a big way. And it’s always the bigger the con the more gullible the people are. It’s a sad truth, you know. It’s a sad, sad truth.

Jackie: Were the, the American Indians weren’t real small people, were they? Alan: Oh, some of them were pretty tall, especially up here in Canada.
Jackie: So, see, we’re looking at a different race once again. What brought that to my mind is we’re talking today about Valley Forge, and I said it was so fascinating to go there, and look in those little cabins, the bunks that they slept it. It was something that I would have been comfortable in, Alan.

Alan: Well, if you look at a lot of the old buildings across Europe, the people lived in, not only that, go into the castles, that’s what hit me when I was really young. I went off to explore the castles. And the regular guards, the armies had breastplates that wouldn’t have fit me at thirteen or twelve.

Jackie: Okay, there you go.

Alan: Because, and the normal people you see were starved. They weren’t getting proper diets. That was the reason for it. See, you can make people stunted in growth by malnourishment. And that’s why the nobility grew to their full height.

Jackie: Well, I’m talking though about these people that were here in the US, America, back in the 1700s, and they were meat eaters, Alan. They were small; they were short. I remember at the island in Michigan, Mackinaw Island, there’s a fort there. And we went there to see the fort. And they said that one of the reasons that they wore those really tall hats was to make them look more frightening.

Alan: Oh, yeah.

Jackie: Because they were shorter. The average was about 5’3”, 5’4” maybe. Well, so, men today are larger. But the point that I was thinking about was that at that same time, it seemed to be the European whites that were smaller, shorter. The American Indians were here, and they were of an average or taller height at the time. So, it seems that from those four hundred years that the males are taller today.

Alan: Everyone is. You see, when you come from Europe, I was astonished to look at the size of people male and female. The young people.

Jackie: Is it small or big?

Alan: Big. Around the 6 feet mark and so on. And then I caught on to what was the cause. There’s a cause for it, because the US allowed the growth hormone in food long before they did in Europe. And that hormone is not destroyed by cooking. It’s in all the meat products. And that’s, it makes you grow, it’s meant to make the cattle grow. Yeah. That’s the cause of it, yeah. But in World War I.

Jackie: I’m not so sure about that.

Alan: It’s a fact. Check it up. You don’t destroy hormones by boiling them.

Jackie: That growth hormone, from what I read about, they gave it to people a few weeks before market, to fatten them up.

Alan: That’s what they claim.

Jackie: Yeah. You now have to look that up too.

Alan: But here’s the thing, with Britain for instance. They found in World War I, the average soldier that came in, and they were all malnourished, they had the worst terrible diet. They averaged around the age of eighteen they were around 5’2” tall. And within four months of having army food, the best meals they’d ever had in their life, the average person sprouted six inches in four month.

Jackie: We’re out of our hour. Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Okay, thanks folks. Turn into Darren Monday night for sure, and find out more about the vaccine we were talking about earlier. Alan, thanks.

Alan: It’s a pleasure.

Jackie: Thanks for listening folks. Good Night. God Bless you.

 

 

 

September 28th, 2006 Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

 

 

Jackie Patru: Well, good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight, here on Sweet Liberty. It is Thursday, and it is the 28th of September in the year 2006. We’re on, not usually Thursday Nights, as you know. Last night, Alan was our guest. And we were in a conversation. And I hoped that we would be able to pick it up this evening. I don’t know where it’s going to go. I don’t know. We never know anyway, do we Alan?

Alan Watt: It’s a long and winding road.

Jackie: It’s a long and winding road and a wheel within a wheel. And when we were closing, last night, Alan, my parting comments, I believe, you know, we do, we have, since 1998, have been on the air together a lot, and of course, the history that you have given us, and the people who’s eyes have been opened because of the information that has been imparted, and the one thing for me, that has been missing, as I said last night, it feels that each program, at least part of each program, some place in it, would touch on the spiritual issues. Because, we have touched on so much. I mean, there has been a lot of conversation about religion, and you have said without any qualms, without any ifs ands or buts, all religions are manmade, and they were made by man to control the mind, the beliefs, and therefore the behavior of people. And the people who have listened, many of our listeners have begun to realize that the religion that they have selected for were born into, has been a lie. And as I said, it’s left a lot of people, and I don’t have a count, my phone calls that I’ve received, letters I’ve received, but mostly phone calls, now that I’m not doing short wave anymore, people feeling lost, floundering, literally, because they’re, they realize the religion, the lies that religions have been teaching. And yet, what is there for somebody to hold on to. What is there for somebody, and not another myth, you see. And that’s why I asked if we could pick this up tonight. I don’t know where we’re going to go with it, or what you would be willing to talk about.

Alan: It’s a quandary really for people, because they generally jump out of one religion into another. And that’s the standard path that they take. And yet, I keep saying, over and over, if this is the place where matter and spirit meet, and since this is a very important place for it to happen, since it’s the only place for it to happen, therefore what you do in this life is of utmost importance. Therefore, you find your way towards one by living in the other. You work your way towards something, which comes, which comes with time, if you’re doing all the right things. Which generally are not just for yourself. You help yourself as a side effect of doing the right thing. And it’s a complete reevaluation of everything which you held dear, previously. The old story about dying the death to be reborn, was an ancient saying. And it’s ancient, and it’s modern at the same time, because it’s the same path, everyone must take, at least to start off with, where you truly look around all the things that you’ve chased all your life, the younger ones are being chased to going after the same things at the moment, and you for the first time truly evaluate them. And you make a distinguishing line between one and the other, what truly is important in this life. And quite a few years ago, you remember, a guy phoned me in, and, I think, yeah, he phoned I think. And he said, you’ve got to get a computer Alan, he says. This has become my best friend, my therapist, it’s become everything to me. And I said to him, you’ll lose yourself in the process, I says, because you can die, and you can have that glass screen next to you as you’re dying, but personally, I’d rather have a human hand holding mine.

So, we’re caught up in the time, where science has become the sub-god, you might say, of this system. We’ve all been trained that if an expert says something, in a white coat, then it’s the gospel truth. And yet, science is taking us into a form of oblivion, for ourselves, albeit almost a painless one, eventually, as people go through the changes.
They’re already adapting to them. But we’re losing every single thing, the uniqueness of being human in the process.

Jackie: And what is the uniqueness?

Alan: And that’s the question that people have to ask themselves. Do they want to go on this path, that’s already been chosen, by the elite for us, or are they going to start now, and standing up and saying no. That’s their personal choice.

Jackie: Saying no to what’s happening? Is that what you’re saying.

Alan: To where we’re being directed, yeah. We have lost so many things, just in the last fifty years, that we used to call our humanity. We have lost the sacredness of life, number one. That’s why it was always held up, even in the courts they had to hold it up, because of the religious traditions, which at least had that correct, that life itself was a sacred thing. We’ve watched ourselves being allowed. We’ve actually helped, enabled it to happen.

Jackie: How?

Alan: All the way to abortion.

Jackie: How have we helped an enabled it, Alan? Alan: Pardon?
Jackie: How have we helped and enabled it?

Alan: Because, because our own drives. We were told, unshackle your drives, let them go. You don’t have to hold them back any more. You don’t have to be morally or personally responsible for your drives. That was the first part.

Jackie: Well, yeah, but.

Alan: Then it was encouraged from the top. It was called the Sexual Revolution was, do your own thing. There’s something there to take care of any fall out. Don’t worry just do it. Then the next part, of course, we’ve already seen the business that’s been flourishing quietly, and now it’s in the open, to do with body parts and stem cells. It’s a

flourishing business.

Jackie: I know it is, but what does this have to do with.

Alan: And we think, we think, and we graze all through this, accepting it, until it’s now normal.

Jackie: Alan, your talking though, with like a great big huge wide brush. And like, everybody has accepted it.

Alan: Well, do you want me to be specific and name names? We’re talking to everybody, because everybody knows what I mean. Most people have drifted through this as though it didn’t affect them. It didn’t affect them. And of course, it has affected us, because a lot of the listeners out there have already had inoculations, and they use fetal tissue to make them. And their children have as well. So, our silence, as we drifted through this ‘60s, ‘70s, and ‘80s period, has enabled them to go so far, and with every bit of our humanity we give away, it makes it easier to give the next part away.

Jackie: Yes. And once again, I’m not asking you to name names, but people who got vaccines, I had my two daughter vaccinated, Alan, not because I didn’t care or love my daughters, because I didn’t know any better. And maybe when an individual finds out the dangers of these, and continues to do it, then they would fit in that group that is going along with it. But not everybody goes along with this. Not everybody does.

Alan: You’d be surprised with how much people go along with so many things which are wrong, because it’s over there that it’s happening, or it’s in another part of the country or whatever. Everything comes round to each eventually; everything that happens anywhere on the planet, eventually comes round to us. And this was something that was at one time understood. That’s why there was such indignation when something terrible was happening somewhere else, and we demand that it be stopped or whatever. But today, it’s almost as though everything is remote from us, because we have been depersonalized, scientifically, gradually, until even, say the family is pretty well non-existent today. That too. Everything has been attacked with gradualism, and now the state has become the god. Now many people saw this coming, and wrote about it. Like I say, Carl Jung, who warned us all about the future we were allowing to happen. But because it was supposedly the good times, the music, the sex, the drugs, the do your own thing, the shackles are off, it was so much fun to do it all.

Jackie: Are you, let me ask you this, you know, maybe, since I’ve been doing the broadcast, Sweet Liberty, I’ve had a sense of our listeners. In the beginning, when I was on short wave, the majority of our listeners were fundamentalists, Christian, that you know, the Old Testament, the New Testament, dichotomy, every word was true, regardless, and it’s come such a long way, that I, my sense of the people who are listening to this broadcast today, they’re not listening out of a desire for entertainment, because the conversations are just too intense for people to be entertained by them. I wonder would you…

Alan: I know that, but it’s also people too, who want to hear what they want to hear. Jackie: Well, do you think?
Alan: They also call me.

Jackie: They call you, yes, but the people that are listening to this broadcast, do you think they’re listening, because they’re…

Alan: They’re from a broad spectrum out there. However, we’ve all gone through the same things, really, I mean, pretty well.

Jackie: Well, yes, we have. I was wondering if, tonight, maybe you would speak to an audience that you know, that a lot of them have come out of the lies are in a process of coming out of the lies, and I wonder if you would speak to that understanding that so many of our listeners are coming to, rather than throwing this out there, like you know, we all are the mass, and we’ve all done this, and I’ve done things. As I said, the vaccinations. I had no idea. And there

was evidently within me, some, thank heaven, knowing that when the mumps and the measles and these vaccines came out, and I got the calls from the doctors office, I said, no. I wasn’t going to do it. It wasn’t because, oh, I realized that it is creating autism, or that there is Mercury in it, or aluminum. People, many people, who vaccinated their children, did it because they love their children, and truly believed that it was the right thing to do.

Alan: Yeah, because they worship the white coats. Jackie: I didn’t worship white coats, Alan.
Alan: They were already trained. I mean, I was a toddler when we got all the US reruns of Ben Casey and Dr. Killdare and all this kind of stuff. Through drama the people were propagandized into seeing these people differently than they actually were. And there’s more of it today than there ever was before, actually, with CSI and all the rest of them. They give a fictional account.

Jackie: You think a great majority of our listeners are in that mode, in that frame of mind.

Alan: There’s hardly a person that escaped the subtle indoctrination, it’s very direct, that came through the TV era. It’s given them so many opinions and all that. It really has directed them in different ways. That’s what it was given out to the public to do. Just as the computer followed it. I always say that the tools we are given are really, the secondary effect is that we can use them, but never the primary reason that they’re given out. They’re given out for more control purposes. Information has always been controlled, because you come to conclusions according to how much or what type of information you’re given. But mostly behavior is done through fiction. We emulate what we see. And that’s always been understood. So, see the people who are looking for answers, have to be responsible for the knowledge that they already have. You don’t sit with it. You don’t sit with. There’s no point in teaching someone to sit at home and purr like a cat. You must use it.

Jackie: What does that mean?

Alan: Many people want comfort. They want to be told, there, there, everything will be okay for you. That, that’s, I’ll leave that to the New Age Movement, that tells them all nothing is real anyway, so don’t worry about it, and life will just go on and on forever, for them. That is what I mean. People have to realize that here, as they walk the planet, they have a job to use the information they have. And that means risking losing friends. They’re not your friends anyway, if they walk away. It means, you take the data, you photocopy it, you do whatever you can with it, and you pass it out. I know people who do that.

Jackie: I know you do. And I do also. So.

Alan: And they are concerned, not just about themselves. They’re concerned about others. And that’s what we have to hold onto. Because the system has been trying for years to break that connection between people. The “I’m all right Jack” type society. We must hang on to that, that need to share with other people our concerns for their sake, as well. But you can teach people forever, who will never ever use it. And that’s a waste of time. People have to use it. They’ve got to stick their heads up above the trenches and get the information out. Even if you only eventually change five people in your lifetime, you’ve done more than most.

Jackie; Yes. And I don’t know how many people you’ve talked to, I would think that you have, that have listened to this broadcast, that have called you that have called you, that have called me, that have lost their friends, and their families, many people, lose their families because of it. That’s, what I’m saying is, that the mind that the heart of people that I talk to, they’re not what you’re talking about right now. And that’s why, and we’ve talked about this, since 1998, and that’s why I was hoping maybe this evening that we don’t do the general all over, you know, that’s what everybody does. I don’t, there’s many of our listeners that they’ve sacrificed, well, their friends and their family.

Alan: They’ve not sacrificed it. They were never yours anyway.

Jackie: No, no, it feels like, yes, but, you know what. It feels like a sacrifice when it happens.

Alan: The change is within the person, and it’s nothing to be ashamed of. And it’s definitely nothing to regret. Truth has a price. In everything in this world, there’s a cause and an effect. And when you get truth.

Jackie: Yeah, I used the wrong word. I did use the wrong word. Sacrifice. And I said, it feels like a sacrifice when it happened. It is within them that they have an impelling urging to share what they know. And because of that, they’ve lost friends, they’ve lost family. Many of them, Alan. I’ve talked, over these past ten in the half years, I couldn’t even guess the number of people that I’ve spoken with. They feel like loners. They feel alone. In fact, that’s a lot of times why they call, because they have sometimes to talk to somebody that they can relate with. And that’s, there’s a lot of people in our listening audience, that fit that.

Alan: Yes. But you know, I don’t see it the same way, you see. Jackie: You don’t.
Alan: I don’t view that the same way. When you have broken away, and it will call it the mass, the stereotype. Jackie: The what?
Alan: The mass, you might say. The stereotype. When you’ve broken out of it, even though, you’ll still see, even though you’ll still see, or have a feeling for the old once and a while, you should really go on and be thankful, in a sense, to rejoice even, because there’s nothing more wonderful than breaking through. There’s nothing to compare with it. You can have sadness at those you’ve left behind, and the knowledge that they’ll probably always be there. Not necessarily so, but probably, there’s a good chance. But you rejoice in the fact that you’ve broken through.
When you can break through this system, with all of the sciences behind it and the wisdom of the ages, that’s meant to keep you in a mental strait jacket from birth till death, when you’ve overcome that, you’ve overcome the world, and you can go on from there. And yes, you won’t be part of the crowd, but that’s part of what you sought after.
When you look, don’t ask for it on your conditions. Jackie: Yes. I found that out. I found that out.
Alan: Yeah. You want truth with no attachments. You don’t want any guarantees. And I say to people all the time, do you really want truth, are you sure? And I’ll warn them. You’ll never be the same again. And I’ll say, what’s dear to you. And they’ll tell me what’s dear to them, and generally by that I will go further with them or not.

Jackie: In other words, what if they said, my family is dear to me.

Alan: Then I’d ask them, just how dear. Would you be willing to sacrifice losing them? And if they wouldn’t. Jackie: So, it is a sacrifice in your mind.
Alan: To them it is, not to me. See, there’s a new belonging, you see. You only belong with that which is on the same walk as yourself. You can’t go back when you’ve opened Pandora’s Box.

Jackie: You can never go back, no. Alan: No.
Jackie: No, I know that.

Alan: And so, you certainly, see, you’ve left, as I say, the mass man, behind. You’ve walked out of that room forever, and if you still have nostalgia, then that can play on you, and that can bring you down again.

Jackie: Nostalgia.

Alan: But you still can’t go back, because you can’t. So you have a choice to work your way through it and realize that whether you like it or not, you’re not one of them anymore.

Jackie: And when that does happen, I’ve experienced it. Of course, I’m not, you know, at that point where I’m walking on water. When the tension comes between you and your loved ones and family, your children, or anybody in family, because of what you know, and because you are so compelled to share it. And then they’ll say, oh, please don’t start preaching again. Well, Alan, that hurts. And it seems to me…

Alan: And that’s why I always tell them, don’t preach to your family, yeah. Jackie: Well, is it preaching?
Alan: Yeah.

Jackie: Is it preaching when you find, oh, well wait a minute, how do you know it’s preaching unless I say.

Alan: Preaching is when you are speaking on something, which they cannot possibly at the moment relate to, and they let you know it.

Jackie: In other words, if you’re talking about some new information you found out on a particular product they might be using, that is damaging livers, now.

Alan: To them, if they have no interest in it themselves, then you’re just being a control freak.

Jackie: Alan, isn’t it a possibility. I mean, this is a little bit of a double standard here we’ve got, because we have to, as you just said, we have got to stand up. We have got to do, share information that we have. Maybe our responsibility is to say that, and then let it go, knowing that they’re going to make the choice.

Alan: Yeah, but how many people do you know who can let it go?

Jackie: I’m talking about this particular situation, any particular situation where we finally realize that there are certain people who will and certain people who won’t. And interestingly, when it’s your family, and they’re in your heart, it hurts even though, even though, you’re compelled to, it hurts. And I’m not sure, because maybe I misunderstood, but it seems like what you said is, you’ve got to get through that, and, you know, if you even have nostalgia, it’s going to hold you back. Does that mean, does that mean that we have to quit feeling, Alan?

Alan: You have to be able to handle feelings. Jackie: Pardon?
Alan: You have to be able to handle feelings in a different way. And every, every. Jackie: You mean it can hurt, and you can accept the hurt. Do you mean that?
Alan: Yeah.

Jackie: Well, okay, fine. But at least.

Alan: In every religion, in every single religion, you have the same allegories over and over and over that when the person changes, you never look back. There are reasons for not looking back. And in every, every, every single religion out there, all of them, when you change yourself, you belong to a different family. Every one.

Jackie: Do you see, or I don’t know, in your comprehension, I know it’s difficult for you to relate, from, it seems, you

know, you’re very beginnings, there wasn’t much you didn’t know. But do you see, that people are in certain steps. Everybody isn’t at the same level of awakening or understanding. And so, to take it to the very nth degree, and say if you can’t do this, you may as well not even try.

Alan: I wouldn’t try to wake someone up who hasn’t taken the first step themselves. Asking questions outside the box.

Jackie: Okay. We have to take a break here. And folks, stay with us. We’re going to be back. (Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay, we’re back. And Alan, are you there? Alan: Yep.
Jackie: Okay, well, we were talking. You had mentioned that sharing with people, and people who’s journey, if you would, to spiritual consciousness is, you know, on a different path. Each, I don’t mean different. Maybe a different, a different level if you would on the journey. And you said that you wouldn’t even, not talk to somebody, but, I don’t know what you said, but you said, unless they would ask questions outside the box.

Alan: You wouldn’t teach them something outside of their knowledge, their present knowledge, unless they were asking questions.

Jackie: Why would you have to teach them if it was already their knowledge though?

Alan: I just said, if they didn’t have it in them. That they were not expressing questions, the right kind of questions, then there’s no point. If you try to teach someone who hasn’t asked the questions, you’re actually nagging them. It’s no different than a born-againer coming along, and preaching the gospel to you over and over. It’s outside of their present reality. They can’t relate to it. So you can only teach people, and I hear it so often, because the first thing they want to do, it’s like conversion, you want to convert the person next store to you, or next to you. And it ends up in chaos for them. It makes a hell on earth for themselves and their wife or husband or whoever. If you truly love a person, and you know where they are in their mindset, if you truly love them, and you know if they’ve been asking questions or not about, as I say, outside the box, if you truly love them, and they haven’t been asking the questions, leave them in peace. You’re not loving someone when you start to nag them. And that’s how they see it. And that causes so much conflict. Tremendous conflict. And you have to be able to accept that that person might never have any inclination to ask the right questions, because they are making decisions.

Jackie: I’ve had, I’ve had experiences, well, actually, conversations with people, who have told me that I said something and they didn’t get it. And I said the same thing again, another way, and they finally got it. But maybe it took several, several times. Those were things I didn’t know about, until I was told about. But I don’t see the difference in that, and in saying something, and leave it go after you’ve said it. Leave it go, because how do you know, at what point they’re going to “get it”, Alan.

Alan: Yeah, but you’re differentiating between just planting the occasional seed and leaving it, and then, wanting to save those around you. These are two different things altogether. We’re talking about generalities with the occasional person, when they’ve listened to the radio or whatever, or they’ve already been asking questions, that’s why they listen to these kinds of shows. So, they’re asking questions. Just by seeking they’re asking the questions.

Jackie: Exactly. Thank you.

Alan: But other people, as I say, those right next to you, who like the idea of the world as it’s been presented and reinforced to them. You can’t just walk in and say, “Hey. You’ve got it all wrong.” “You have to understand this.” That’s a typical expression they’ll use.

Jackie: Well, maybe it is. I’m not talking about being that blunt. I’m not talking about being that blunt, and saying you’ve got to get this or else, or whatever.

Alan: And as I say, in every religion, you have little keys to truths which are buried from the masses, because they’re never really explained to the masses by the priests or preachers who are set up there. And even in the West, for the Christian side, they have the same thing. They tell you a little story, a little allegory, with a truth contained within.
And in the West, it was Jesus, and his family comes to visit, and wants to get to the head of the crowd, and right up to Jesus. And he’s told they’re there in the audience, and he says, “Well, who is my mother? Who is my father?
Who are my brothers and sisters?” Meaning, those of the same mindset were really his family. Jackie: I think people will understand that. Don’t you? That we have.
Alan: They might understand it, but they don’t understand the truth of it, you see.

Jackie: You mean, the truth of the fact that those of us who are really family are of the same mind. You think they don’t understand.

Alan: Definitely, or they’re walking on the same path. Or there’s someone behind you somewhere. Jackie: There you go.
Alan: But regardless. Jackie: Yeah.
Alan: You’ve broken out of the traditions. Jackie: There you go, yes.
Alan: You’ve broken away from, you’ve already broken away from what was supposed to be the set of norms, and you have to accept that you are giving up that. And that was the whole point of truth. There are no guarantees with it. It doesn’t say you’re going to have perpetual bliss. That’s for the New Agers that think themselves in fantasy, and purr, as I say, like a cat forever. Truth will take you through mountains and valleys.

Jackie: And so will love, won’t it, Alan.

Alan: Oh, that too, because with everything, there are two sides of everything. Jackie: Yes.
Alan: You can’t truly have a picture of anything, unless you truly experience both sides; the pain, the ecstasy, everything. These are all growing experiences. And it’s out of all of these things that the spiritual side will develop. You can’t do it without it.

Jackie: The spiritual side will develop. Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Yes.

Alan: You cannot bypass it. You can’t take shortcuts. You can’t just throw down money and say, teach me this. And I’ve had offers. One guy offered $140,000 if I’d just give him the bottom line.

Jackie: The bottom line of what?

Alan: Truth and reality. Jackie: Like you know it.
Alan: Yeah, here’s the money, give me my copy.

Jackie: And then, anything you say to him, he’ll say, that’s it, because Alan Watt said it. That’s the guru. Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: That’s what I told you last night, Alan. This isn’t funny really. It isn’t funny. Alan: But that’s how people are.
Jackie: No, that isn’t how people are. That’s how people are with you.

Alan: There’s a lot of people, a lot of people are like that. And if you think I’m wrong, just look at the professional gurus in California.

Jackie: Alan. I know that, I understand that, but what I’m saying is, I said this last night that you have become like a guru to a lot of people.

Alan: Yeah, that’s why I keep telling them. Jackie: And they think you know everything.
Alan: Yeah. That’s why I tell them, you know, don’t become me. Jackie: Or believe everything I say.
Alan: You have to think for yourself. That too, check everything. And you must find yourself. You must find who you are.

Jackie: That’s good. Last night, when we were talking, and I mentioned to you, some, and I’m switching us grossly here, but it’s kind of in the same vein. You had mentioned, back in May, in fact, I checked on the date, because I wanted to make sure. It was the 17th of May this year, and that was when you said you talk to people one on one, and you’re deprogramming them, and then you’re reprogramming them. And last night I asked you, who has the right to program anybody. And you said, well, you know, the best you can do is to give them a place to go or a start. And I said, is that what you mean by reprogramming. And you said, no. And so, I wonder, when you talk about programming somebody’s mind, Alan, do you, or does anybody have a right to do it?

Alan: You do if they’re completely, utterly at their wit’s end. Jackie: Programming their mind.
Alan: Many, many of them are at their wit’s end. Dangerously so.

Jackie: What does programming somebody’s mind mean then. Because maybe I’m looking at it. Alan: When you deprogram someone, you can’t leave a blank sheet, or you’ve got a zombie.
Jackie: So you reprogram.

Alan: You give a basic there, a basis for them to begin with. What they do with it is up to them. Jackie: Okay. So, you’re not really programming somebody’s mind.
Alan: No, I’m not. I’m not indoctrinating anybody.

Jackie: Well, that’s what you’re said, you’re reprogramming them.

Alan: No, I’m not indoctrinating anybody, Jackie. I know you want to believe that, because you keep saying it over and over, and I’ve told you I’m not doing that.

Jackie: No, excuse me, Alan. No you said reprogramming, and I heard reprogramming, that’s why I asked you to explain it the way you meant it.

Alan: If someone asks you for reality, what would you call what you give them? Jackie: If somebody asks.
Alan: A suggestion? Jackie: Excuse me.
Alan: Is it a suggestion or a truth?

Jackie: If somebody asks for reality, I wouldn’t know what to give them, because I don’t know what is reality. I don’t. I’m not there, Alan, you know, that I have every answer.

Alan: Well, what you give them, if they can handle it, is a basic platform to begin with. Jackie: Like.
Alan: And if they want to go on with it, they can carry on themselves, or they can get back to you. Jackie: Okay.
Alan: But at least they’ve got more to stand on than they had before.

Jackie: Okay. Well, that isn’t programming somebody’s mind. Not in the way I took it. And thank you, Alan. Alan: It’s not mind control. It’s not mind control.
Jackie: Now, well, you used the word reprogramming, and you know, that has been such a topic of our conversations, how peoples minds have been programmed that when you said, I reprogram them, as I said, it slipped me by, when you first said it, and then I thought about it, and I said, wait a minute reprogramming.

Alan: Listen, let me put it straight to you and then you can get off the topic. If someone asks me for a truth, and they’re in a bad way, I’ll ask them how bad they are. I’ll ask them what they’ve already looked at. I’ll see where the core of their problem lies, and if they’re really serious, and I think they’re in trouble, I will give them a basic, grounding to stand on. But as I say, I’d leave it to them where they go with it.

Jackie: That’s good. That isn’t programming somebody’s mind. Alan: It’s all semantics.

Jackie: It’s a word that we’ve used a lot, and you have to forgive me, Alan. You gave me what I was asking for.

Alan: Jackie, you won’t let it go, will you? We should move over this, and go on to the next thing, because it’s explained. Unless you don’t think it is explained.

Jackie: No, it isn’t that I don’t think it’s explained. No. But it. I know, but I’m going to say something else about it again, and then you’re going to say, you won’t let it go, will you.

Alan: But you won’t you see. If something is your bondage, you won’t let it go. If it wasn’t bugging you, you’d let it go. So, there’s another reason why it’s bugging you.

Jackie: And maybe it’s bugging you. Maybe I’m bugging you, Alan.

Alan: If you keep on about it, there’s an intent somewhere, which is different from what I’m hearing. Jackie: Okay, so in other words, I won’t have the last word. And then everything.
Alan: If that’ important. If that’s important. That’s silly. Yeah. Jackie: You really have a way with words, don’t you, Alan.
Alan: Not words. Jackie: Yes.
Alan: It’s not words.

Jackie: Okay. Alright. Well, so, we have ten, about ten minutes left here. Where do we go with this?

Alan: Well, the topic really is about a spiritual side of someone who’s breaking out of this conditioned reality, where everyone has had the same conditioning. Minor variations, minor degrees of different things, maybe even abuse, because it’s an abusive system. And however, we’ve all gone through the same spectrum road, you might say. To be trained in the same things, the same ways of looking at things, the same understandings and conclusions, and that’s mass indoctrination. It’s a lifelong indoctrination, where we don’t have to think for ourselves. The answers are debated on television by experts, and we pick the one we like best. That’s why they always give you two opposing sides, to politics or what a president just said, or whatever. Everything is given to us on a plate. And we don’t really participate in anything, see.

Jackie: And we’ve talked about this, many, many times, haven’t we.

Alan: Yeah, and so therefore, if you truly want to break out of the system, you have to take the responsibility of having a purpose now. You have a purpose. Most people who don’t really know what’s wrong, will be told by the system, that it’s themselves that’s wrong. Therefore they go to psychiatrists or councilors or therapy meetings or group meetings and so on, and yet, still inside there’s an emptiness there, and it’s because they have no purpose. No real reason for being. And that gnaws away at them. So, when you break out of the box, and you realize, wait a minute, you can be quite correct with what you’re saying, as a minority of one. You don’t need the majority vote here, or the majority conclusions, and so it’s alright to be different from the rest. And you’ve broken free. And you are breaking free. And you take the consequence, yeah. You might be lonely at times, but there’s an added benefit, because now your mind is totally free. And it becomes more free all the time. The more you want to hang on to things, the more it will hold you back. The more depressed you’ll become on and off, and you’ll go through a roller coaster, until you understand that you don’t belong to the same people any more. You’ve moved on.

Jackie: And the spiritual side of that individual, that is the beginning of the development.

Alan: It’s a road, yep. It’s a road. And sometimes it doesn’t seem clear. But, if the tragedies happen, the hope happens as well, and the reality of the fulfillment of the hope happens. As I say, you have mountains and valleys, and each time, your mind really expands with understanding, and you think you’ve reached the top of a mountain, you’re down in a valley again to digest it for a while, before you go up the next mountain. There’s so much to know.

Jackie: That’s like being the little, the big frog in the little pond, and then when you come to a new understanding, you’re like the little tiny frog in a great big huge pond.

Alan: That’s right. Jackie: Yes.
Alan: And so, you’ve got to, it’s a matter of leaving behind and taking the risks. Leaving behind all that was to become something that will be. And the choice is yours, but you have to let go of many things too.

Jackie: Yes. And I’m going to repeat what you said, is that, there are people, right now, who are breaking out of that. And it is the beginning of their journey. And that was, I’m not sure that I express myself in the way that. Well, I grope for words, Alan. But when we were talking about people being on different paths or different levels. I don’t know the words that would be appropriate there, but you just said it, and I appreciate that. That everybody is on, just awakening, opening their eyes, it’s just an ongoing and ongoing process, and there are many different stages of that.

Alan: Yeah. And that’s what I’m saying. Sometimes you get a glimpse of a higher truth, that can be almost overwhelming, and that’s the reward that you’ve really sought. And it comes in different periods and each one is worth all that you think you may have lost. But by that time, anyway, you know that you’ve really lost nothing at all. You’ve gained far more than most people. And as I say, you’ve overcome the world, a tremendous breakthrough. Tremendous breakthrough. Tremendous. Against all odds.

Jackie: Are you saying that that very beginning is overcoming the world, because that first step is taken, Alan?

Alan: When, you’ve cast off everything and reevaluated everything, because you have, you’ve changed. Once you’ve changed completely, you will see everything differently, everything.

Jackie: Yes.

Alan: You would have a deeper insight into yourself. Into why you used to think this way, even about acquaintances or loved ones and so on, but, at the same time, you’ve now broken through and left them. It made be sad to say, but you’ve left them. And you must go on from there, and go higher.

Jackie: And maybe we’ve let them, or maybe the separation just happened. Alan: Yeah, you know, it’s a separation.
Jackie: And there’s just one more, and once again, I’ll ask your forgiveness when I ask this question, it isn’t to be argumentative, but to get in my mind the cognitiveness, of this message. Because, you said, a couple or three times, when people begin to suddenly awaken, the spiritual side then will begin to develop, and then, in the past, and at other times, everybody doesn’t have spirit. We have to call it to us.

Alan: It’s something that comes to you. And it’s not channeling or even asking for something to come to you. Jackie: It’s just something that is within.
Alan: You know, that there’s a knowledge coming closer and closer as you seek the same thing, you’re seeking it,

it’s coming closer and closer. And as I say, when you die to the old world system, and it’s old values, and indoctrinations, then it happens much quicker. Not everybody can pass everything on.

Jackie: The differentiation that I hope to make here, is because you had said on one program, not Sweet Liberty, that there is a spirit that’s made for everybody, but we have to call it.

Alan: That’s what they always called your, your true soul mate is what they used to call it. Jackie: And then you said, spirit doesn’t always come to everybody.
Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: Well, do you. What does that mean? Does that mean that there’s something.

Alan: It doesn’t come, because you see, not everybody is honest about the thing in the first place, honest with themselves.

Jackie: No, we’re talking about people who are calling spirit to them, and spirit doesn’t always come.

Alan: Yeah, and you don’t have to call it that either, you can call it anything you want. It’s wisdom. It’s something much bigger than all of this. Much, much bigger. It’s not traditional channeling or spirit guides, or stuff like that.

Jackie: No, I’m not talking about that Alan.

Alan: It’s way beyond all of that, and it’s always been the same in every age. Jackie: And it is within each and every one of us.
Alan: It’s, the innate capacity would be there. Jackie: Yes, that would be it, wouldn’t it?
Alan: Would be there, however there’s also choice of the physical, and the physical person as well has a personality. And most choose never to go in that direction.

Jackie: In what direction?

Alan: To seek something bigger. The other part.

Jackie: Oh, no, but I was talking about those who were seeking.

Alan: Yeah, they truly are seeking, and they’ve been honest with themselves, because you can’t get it, it won’t happen, it won’t happen unless you can stand back and look at yourself, and your whole life, and everything you’ve ever done in your life. It won’t happen otherwise.

Jackie: And that’s like calling something into us that isn’t there. That’s going to make a choice. Alan: That would be another way, yeah.
Jackie: That’s going to make a choice whether we’re going to get it or not. See, that’s kind of a hopelessness, isn’t it Alan.

Alan: It’s hopeless for people like that.

Jackie: Is it?

Alan: You can’t take who you are with you, with the guarantees that you will be you.

Jackie: But somebody who dotes on you, and everything you say, and they’re truly wanting truth, and they’re seeking and they’re calling, and they hear, well, spirit doesn’t always come. And you know what, I’ve talked to people who have gotten very upset with wondering, is spirit going to come when they call. We’re out of time.

Alan: You can’t whistle for it, no. Jackie: I know.
Alan: No. It will come when you are honest with yourself. Jackie: It will come.
Alan: When you are honest with yourself and about yourself.

 

 

April 4th, 2006 Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

 

 

Jackie Patru: Alright. Well, say hello to our listeners this evening, and let them know what your website is. I’ve got water boiling, and I want to go get my tea, okay?

Alan Watt: Yeah, you can catch me, Alan Watt, at cuttingthroughthematrix.com. And there are different programs and shows which you can download for free, audio shows, and one video. And you can do it both on landline and on highspeed. It takes longer on the landline. Some people have downloaded it on the landlines without any problems at all. And the webmaster has made it pretty simple, which people like me really need, actually, in order to find out how to download the stuff. But it’s up there. There will be more added to it shortly, including some CDs which are coming out, a whole series of them. I also have three books for sale, which are called Cutting Through.
And these books, I, II, and III, go into the occult hidden societies behind rulerships and kingdoms and governments and so on, down through the ages, up until the present time. And I give you a lot of Masonic and High Masonic coding contained within them. And in the third one, I go into the monetary connection between the system we live in, which is called civilization; we’ve always had money at the beginning of what we call civilization, or the system, which basically dictates the way we live, how we live, who will live better than whom, and how wars are created and made and so on from thousands of years BC up until the present. It really hasn’t changed in its structure, its intentions, or its methodology. So, you can order those books, and you’ll see again, the address on the website to order them from. I don’t know if Jackie is back yet or not. I guess not.

Jackie: I’m back.

Alan: You’re back, eh? Jackie: I’m back.

Alan: This is live. This is live radio. (Laughter)

Jackie: Alan, you know, I think we’ve got a delay going on here or something. Alan: Really? Oh.
Jackie: Yeah, because you’re not responding as quickly. And then I keep wondering if I’ve lost you.

Alan: No, unless maybe the secret service is trying out a different computer that I’m going through first, yeah, so they can. Yeah, you never know.

Jackie: Right. Did you tell them, because I was in the kitchen, and couldn’t hear what you were saying, did you tell them about being on George Noory?

Alan: No. I was asked to go on the George Noory Show by the producer. And I’ve accepted. We’ll see if it still goes ahead. If it does, it will be on the overnight of the 10th and the 11th of this month. And I don’t know how long it’s on for either. I don’t know if it’s an hour or more. And this happened after I was on the Rollye James show, for three hours, so I guess the word got round, and we’ll see how the next one goes. I’m kind of looking forward to it. Hello? I guess Jackie has gone for her tea again.

(Electronic Pulse Sound Interference)

Alan: Wow, what was that? What was that sound there? Jackie: What was what? Was it bad?
Alan: It was a clashing, electronic sound. Jackie: I thought that was at your place.
Alan: No. It was a dee-dee-dee-dee-dee. To me it sounded like some sort of electronic pulsation or something.

Jackie: Well, on the George Noory thing, you’ve sent your books, right? They wanted the books. You’ve mailed the books to them?

Alan: Yeah. That will give them an idea, I guess of questions and things to ask. Jackie: Well, we’ll see once they read your books if they’re going to bring you on. Alan: That’s right. They might cancel, and say, oh, no, this guy is too far out there.
Jackie: Well our listeners need to know that it’s been scheduled, you did say, overnight the 10th and 11th of April. And you’re scheduled to be on at 2am Eastern time, right, Alan?

Alan: I think it is.

Jackie: Well, you said 11 Pacific, so that would be 2am. And you’re not sure. So, folks, this is really amazing. The fact that he was on the Rollye James Show and 6 FM stations, and the information is getting out, and I just think it’s a miracle, Alan.

Alan: Yes. And also, I was also on last week there, I got a sudden call to go back on The Edge Show for half an hour, because the guest hadn’t turned up. So it’s nice to see that these things are starting to happen now.

Jackie: Yes, it is. And it is a possibility that you might wind up saying more than their handlers want you to say, but the beauty of this is that you’re having the opportunity to get in front of so many people.

Alan: Yes, that’s it.

Jackie: I think it’s a miracle. To me, it’s like a miracle.

Alan: Well, it’s been a long time coming. I mean, we started in ’98, and just worked quietly and plodded on, you know. And for some reason.

Jackie: You’d be surprised how many of our listeners have contacted me over the years, Lily mentioned this, she said in the American Free Press, we would get on or I would get on a topic on Sweet Liberty, and she said, right after that the American Free Press would be on it. She said it happened way too many times to be coincidence. And Eleanor called me from Canada, and you had said this too, that you noticed a lot of times Art Bell, a radio talk show host, repeating you, almost quoting you, but yet, of course, never acknowledging the source. And Eleanor called one night, and this was, I don’t know, at least a couple of years broadcast or whatever, and she said, Jackie, tune into Art Bell, what he’s doing right now is just an extension of what you and Alan just got done doing. So, they’ve probably been listening, Alan.

Alan: And also the other thing was, well, there’s a shortwave broadcaster too, who would often mention topics the next day, which we discussed the night before. But sure, I have no doubt. The giveaway is that there must be… See, I know there are people out there who monitor all the airwaves. And I know this for a fact, because there was a show on a Toronto station one day, a bit of news, and I really wanted to get a hold of the original copy, and I contacted the station, and they said they couldn’t, they didn’t have a copy to give me, but they put me in touch with an organization which does international monitoring of all the airwaves. And I wrote to them, and sure enough, it cost me 60 dollars for a cassette tape, mind you, but this organization does monitor all radio shows and television shows in the entire country. And I thought, this has to be run by some government agency. So, they do scan all the information that’s being put out there, and I guess that way they can head off that information by putting out people with their own spin on it, you know. That’s how they keep control of the information. So, when someone is coming out with some truth, they put out a superhero that then repeats it, and because god has said it, and with a spin on it, the people will listen to it, where the original person is forgotten in the wash, you know. That’s how it works.

Jackie: You know, I’ll tell you a good example of that. When there was a lot, actually, it was early on, when we first started talking about chemtrails, and that would have been the summer of ’98, Alan. But we were really hitting it heavy at the time, and that was before you started, because you actually began coming on in the winter, December of ’98, but it was within a year, or maybe that year, it was ABC, one of the networks, part of the news network, I’ve got it on video. They had a three or four minute thing on chemtrails. Of course they were calling them contrails.
And they were even showing them what they looked like from the satellites. And they showed Xs in the sky. And they said that these were from commercial jet airplanes, and that they were very concerned that this might be part of the cause of global warming.

Alan: Yeah, they said it was contrail clutter. Jackie: They said it was contrails.
Alan: And they called it clutter.

Jackie: Contrail clutter, yeah. Contrails that didn’t dissipate, right. And I wonder how many people who weren’t aware of what a “chemtrail” is looked at that, and said, wait a minute. That’s not a contrail. Contrails don’t last. Contrails dissipate almost as fast as the airplane leaves it.

Alan: But everything is new in the New World Order. We have a New World Order, and we have a new freedom, and we have new contrails, you see. Everything is new.

Jackie: And new hurricane weather patterns.

Alan: That’s right. And tornadoes. And yet every one of these things, this is the beauty of very high tech manipulation. The beauty of it is that as long as they don’t admit they’re using very high sciences, even though they admit that they have these abilities and installations to do so. As long as they don’t admit they’re actually using them, we can never, ever get the absolute proof, except what we see by our own reason. You know. That’s how it works. So everything in other words that we see.

Jackie: I have written it down, but it’s on another page here, that when you had a visitor, one of our friends here from Pennsylvania, and you mentioned in the wintertime there, it happened last winter, and evidently this winter too, that after the snow melted there was this white haze all over the ground. And he took a sample of it and had it analyzed. And what were the metals that they found in that thing, Alan?

Alan: Barium. There was barium, there was aluminum oxide, copper, titanium, and some other metallic substances. But this laboratory didn’t have the facilities to do a biological check on it. But at least we got all the metals there.
But yeah, the whole field, once the last snow melts for a few days, you have maybe four or five inches of, it’s like tiny interwoven cobwebs, that’s what it looks like. It’s like a candy floss all over the field. And once the sun works on it for four or five days, then it crumbles into a powder which lasts for quite a while. But that was the time of year where my dog died. Other people I know, their cats and dogs were getting sick as well, vomiting and so on, and I think it was from basically eating the snow. See, that’s the last of the concentrated spraying for the whole winter. That’s maybe four months, five months of snow, of spraying all in that snow, you see.

Jackie: Alan, remember the [inaudible] just prior to Meggie? She had a sudden heart attack. She had no signs of any illness whatsoever. But when you mentioned snow. She’d go out there and she’d look just like a machine.
She’d put her mouth in the snow and just eat her way through it. And it never ever occurred to me until you just said that that might have. Because Mariah would go out, Mariah didn’t eat the snow, she rolls in it. She rolls in it.

Alan: But then they lick their fur, they lick their paws, you know.

Jackie: And it was in February, right around the first of February. And Megan died, about a month later or before that.

Alan: That was March. Yeah, March, the end of March. Jackie: Okay, there you go.
Alan: You literally have four months of spraying all condensed into that thin little layer you see. That’s a lot of chemicals. And that’s what’s left at the end, is this polymer type of sponge almost. And then it crumbles into a white powder, and even the leaves that it rests upon turn pure white with it, you know. That’s a lot of chemicals. That’s what we’re being doused with. And this falls right along with the HAARP technology, because in HAARP, they mentioned many, many years ago, that they could use HAARP on a more sophisticated level, if they could douse the atmosphere with metallic particles, because it would be a good electrical conduit. But we’re also taking this stuff in. We’re breathing it in. We’re eating it from the food. It’s in the water. So, we also are becoming walking antennas.
And surely none of this can be a byproduct, a coincidence of it all. Perhaps that’s their intention.

Jackie: Some time ago, remember, I told you about [inaudible] and the flyer I got on it. It’s some type of amino acid, I think. And the flyer, the FDA has acknowledged, that you cleanse the body of heavy metals, toxins, heavy metals, but not how well it does with cleaning out the arteries. That’s the point they were making. But at that point, I remember saying this, and I thought about it again, when you were giving me that list of metals. We need to check out and see if it really will help to flush that from the body, Alan. Don’t you think it’s worth looking into?

Alan: Oh, sure, absolutely. I’m sure the elite themselves must have some very sophisticated methods of ridding it from themselves. They must be doing it.

Jackie: Yeah, because they’re out and about, aren’t they?

Alan: I’m sure that they do. Whatever the public have access to on a medical level is always antique, really, and they’re always so far ahead, near the top, they must have very sophisticated methods of ridding this from their body. We know that they do get inoculations, the real inoculations, against many of the hybrid designed bacteriums and viruses from germ warfare labs. They do get inoculations against all of these high diseases. So, they would also get some sort of high chelation type therapy.

Jackie: And that’s what [inaudible] is, is chelation therapy.

Alan: But it’s a dangerous world we’re living in. It’s always been rather dangerous in this system, but it’s getting more overt now. We can see the effects, we can look at the skies and actually see this stuff coming down. One, I think it was last winter, when it’s cold, the polymer, the stuff that causes the rainbow effects around the sun when they’re spraying heavily, you’ll find the polymer, when it’s really cold weather, sometimes comes down, it comes down in clumps. And I saw one about six feet long, tumbling through the sky, slowly, and then it hit a tree and then gradually started to dissolve. And so, that’s what they used to call angel hair, back in the 60s when they were experimenting with this stuff on the public. And of course, the diversion that the CIA put out was, oh there’s always UFOs in the vicinity when this stuff is coming down, this angel hair, but really, they were testing it themselves on the public, and then, no doubt, they knew what the results would be by following the medical records of local areas, you know.

Jackie: What it sounds like to me is that ethyl dibromide. And remember I told you, that was in ’98 when I received that email, and it said it’s confirmed that it’s been in the chemtrails.

Alan: But there’s many substances, and again, I’d love to get biological tests done on this stuff to see if there’s viruses. Because I know, back in the 1950s, when it was Teller that created the H-Bomb, he first suggested using this type of spray for electromagnetic pulse purposes, the HAARP purpose. And he also said that the polymer that they could mix it with could also be used to carry bacterium or viruses across vast areas in wartime. So, I’d love to get a sample done on a biological level.

Jackie: When I got the manufacturer’s safety data sheet on the ethyl dibromide, it did say that it freezes at about 50 degrees. And it dissipates in the sun. And when I called that lab, the gentlemen, they put me in touch with the guy that actually did the analysis. And he said, I can’t give you the results, because somebody, a private individual had the sampling done, the analysis. But he said, I will tell you this one thing, there’s no more than 10% EDB in this sample. And the FDA, around the 80s, I think, had put out an emergency stoppage on the use of EDB, ethyl dibromide, as they were using it, they had used it for about a decade as pesticide. And I got a lot of information about pesticides, as part of environmental protection, because they were the ones that really began to want to know what was the safety of this stuff. And they were spraying it on dried corns and grains and things like that. They were using it as a pesticide and all the tests that had been done on it were by the company that manufactured the EDB, and they kept saying it was safe. So, after a decade, then the EPA puts out an emergency stop usage. There is no safe level of ethyl dibromide. And according to this guy at the lab in Ohio that I spoke with, he said there was no more than 10% in that sample that he analyzed. And one of our listeners in, I believe it was Arkansas, called me just before I went on the air the one day, that’s when I was on at 6pm. And he said, they’ve been spraying, and he said Jackie, this stuff is hanging off the trees. And he grabbed a film canister and went out and got a sample of it.
And he was holding it, and I told him, put a mask on and gloves. And he went out to get a sample, and he got back on the phone, and he was describing it to me, like you said. It looked like it was lacy, like angel hair.

Alan: It’s like that candy cane, you know that stuff. Jackie: You’re talking about cotton candy.
Alan: Cotton candy. In Britain you call it candy floss, you know. But that’s the stuff.

Jackie: As he was watching it, it was dissipating. So, I suggested that he get it in the freezer right away, and he did,

and it stopped, you know, it stopped melting, dissipating. And do you know, I don’t really know what came of that. And we were in touch off and on, and I don’t know if he was able to find a lab that would do an analysis on it. That’s very bad stuff. That stuff you’re describing is what he described, Alan.

Alan: Yeah, I know. Well, this is happening all over the country. This is all kept quiet by the regular media, and anyone who can trust the regular media, when this is happening above your heads every day, I mean, why would you expect any truth from them. And to be honest, I think this is the number one crisis that we have to face at the moment. This secrecy around what’s happening above our heads is terribly ominous. They know it’s detrimental to our health. They know they can’t tell the public what it is or why they’re doing it. And yet there’s a priority obviously for doing so. I think this is the number one thing that we have to really get out into the open, because until this stops, I don’t think people are going to survive too long, with all the infections they’re getting. It’s probably affecting their mind as well. We know that Alzheimer’s patients have large quantities of aluminum oxide in their brain tissue. And this stuff that they’re spraying…

Jackie: Is it aluminum oxide or aluminum?

Alan: It’s aluminum. All types and traces of aluminum are detrimental in the brain. And unfortunately, that’s where it seems to be taken up to and it gets deposited. So, it could certainly affect memory, for instance. I think it’s also possible that there’s drugs in this stuff, since Rumsfeld came on after 9/11 and said that they had vast quantities of aerosolized Prozac and Valium to spray over entire cities, if there’s another crisis, in order to calm the people. It makes perfect sense as we go through these big changes we have to go through, and they are of a global change, basically, the changes we have to go through. It makes perfect sense they’d want to drug the populace as we go through them and bring us out into a completely new way of living. So, I wouldn’t put anything past them.

Jackie: That stuff I was talking about isn’t EDT, it’s EDTA. And I was thinking that maybe one of our wonderful internet listeners might have time to do some real research on that. To find out about it. We’re going to be taking a break here in about 15 seconds. And then we’ll be back after this. Folks, don’t go away. We’ll be back, with Alan Watt.

(Commercial Break)

Jackie: I did this before, but it’s just one paragraph. And I want to read this for our listeners. Maybe somebody will check into this and get back with me. They’re talking about this chelation therapy of course, for the arteries, because it removes the calcium plaque. But it says, “In the days after World War II, men, who worked in battery factories, or painted ships with lead based paint, began coming down with lead poisoning from their high exposure in these jobs. A safe, harmless chemical called EDTA, was found to be extremely effective for removing the lead from the men’s bodies. An effective cure for lead poisoning. But something else happened. Many of the men who were treated with EDTA enjoyed an apparent reduction in the symptoms of heart disease.” And they explain, this is Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid. It’s an amino acid. It says it was synthesized in Germany in 1935, and first patented in the US in 1941. And so, I don’t know why I haven’t taken the time to do this, and I haven’t. I guess I was hoping one of our listeners would do it. Anyway, that’s what it is. Either oral, or they do it by injection too. But I guess the injection is very, very expensive, and the oral chelation therapy, taking it orally is a lot less expensive.
And Darren asked me, remember we were talking earlier today about that Dr. Doom? Dr. Eric Pianca is his name, and he was doing a talk. This was in March. Darren said he talked about this on the air yesterday, last night, and this was the fifth of March that he did this speech, when he said that 90% of the population had to be eliminated and he said that airborne Ebola would be the best way to do it. But Darren wanted me to clean up something, because on this guy’s website there was a very extensive, what do you call it when somebody dies?

Alan: Obituary. Is it obituary?

Jackie: Yeah, the obituary. Well, he had evidently written it himself, but at the top of it, it says not dead yet. So, this was a long background on this man and all that he’s done and accomplished. He’s got a herd of bulls, of cows, and his main bull’s name is Lucifer, Alan. Darren wanted me to clean that up, and let the listeners know. Because he thought because he was looking at that obituary the guy was dead, he’s not. He said that on the 5th of March, and

he’s recommended airborne Ebola.

Alan: Was he speaking at some meeting or something public?

Jackie: Yeah, it was in Texas, Beaumont, Texas at Lamar University. And it was the Texas Academy of Science. And the guy who exposed him was a member, according to, his name is Nim, Forest Nim. And he said that he was associated or a member of the Texas Academy of Science, in their ecology department or something. And he said the thing that really perked him up was just before Pianca came up to the mike, somebody went over to the guy that was videotaping all the speakers, and the guy that had the video camera, I guess he pointed it up in the air and walked away in a huff, because they didn’t videotape this speech. But the guy anyway that reported on it, no, we don’t know if this whole thing is a hoax, but there is a website on this guy. You know for these accusations to be made and not be true, the guy that made them could probably get himself in a real jam. Because he wrote it.
Airborne Ebola.

Alan: Yeah, well, they don’t even need this guy, because the big boys have published enough on it themselves. You know, they’ve published this over and over and over, about vastly reducing the population of the world to a more suitable size for their new humanity. So, it doesn’t really matter about what this guy said. Jacques Cousteau said the same thing himself, you know.

Jackie: I guess because it’s so recent.

Alan: It would be worthwhile if someone could check out and verify this did happen at this place in Texas. Jackie: And allegedly the guy got a standing ovation when he was done.
Alan: Well, actually the signs and symptoms of the Spanish Flu, that happened in World War I, are very similar to Ebola in some respects, because towards the end, they did hemorrhage from the eyes and so on. So, which makes you think that probably the Spanish flu was a hybrid itself, a specially made one. And I wouldn’t be surprised.

Jackie: Now, I’ve read different accounts of this. But I’ve read accounts that they’ve said at least 50 million people died of the Spanish Flu.

Alan: They do say that it killed more than all the participants who died in that first World War. Jackie: But 50 million isn’t enough for them, is it, Alan?
Alan: No, they have their ideal society all figured out by statistics and so on. And they don’t need all the people they have today in a post-industrial and post-technological society. They don’t need all the useless eaters, basically.
And that’s how the elite see the people. They see the people down below as being there to serve their needs, but when they no longer need those people, they have no qualms in getting rid of them. And this has been in the works for an awful long time. I don’t know if you ever saw the movie, Metropolis, the old movie. It was an old silent movie, in fact, about the creation of new types of robots or cyborgs to take over the labor. And right in there, the scientist who creates them says that we no longer need the workers. They’re now redundant, they’re obsolete. And that’s basically how they see society today. We’re obsolete. They no longer need us. They have China to supply all the needs for the elite for centuries to come.

Jackie: I remember reading about a very plush getaway that they’ve created in China for the elite. I guess Kissinger, Henry Kissinger spends a lot of time there. It’s a whole complex for them with all the comforts, you know, that the elite expect and want with their entertainment and their fine dining, and places to stay and stuff like that, in China.

Alan: These guys are internationalists, you see, even though they rule countries, or have helped rule or create the destinies of countries, they themselves have always been international. And so, they don’t care which country they make their base for any particular generation. So, they have no problems in moving to China, or wherever else it’s needed. They have no affinity to the people, you see.

Jackie: Well, as you pointed out a long time ago, some of the rulers, of any of the countries, well, maybe England, I don’t know, but they weren’t the same nationality as the people they were ruling.

Alan: That’s right. I mean, the Normans came into England in the 11th Century, and they’ve interbred amongst themselves ever since. And with their relatives in other European countries, but they’ve never interbred with the ordinary people. So, they’ve never seen themselves really as belonging to those people to whom they rule over. And that’s no different from the Kissinger types who came in from Germany. He was already an internationalist in the elite category, in his ideology, and they’re all the same at the top, really. And the hope of all the workers beneath them, who help them, the lower members of the CFR, etc, is to one day, to get accepted to be up amongst this international elite. Most of them have got a fat chance of getting there, mind you, but they’ll grovel and do what they’re told in the hope that they may also get up there. But the guys towards the top, in fact, they have hardly any empathy or affinity to humankind in general. Let’s be honest about it. Mr. Kissinger, when he was in office with Nixon, put through that bill that declared that the greatest enemy to the state was overpopulation. And then they put that massive funding towards ways of vastly reducing the populations by all means possible. So that’s the kind of characters we’re dealing with here, you know. And now these guys are in power, they belong to the top associations in the world. They have the power to implement what they want. They tell us what they want. And we better take them seriously when they say these things. They mean it. They’re not guessing or putting out a wish list, you know.

Jackie: Ten years ago, reading about it, I didn’t disbelieve it. But it’s beyond the realm of your comprehension to really get it. And then when you see what is happening today, we realize we’re living it.

Alan: That’s right. The average person, you see, we’ll make excuses for them. We actually make excuses, because we cannot believe that they mean what they say. Because, I wouldn’t do that, and you wouldn’t do that, so therefore they couldn’t do it, they wouldn’t do that. That’s how we think, you see. But we’re dealing with different creatures here. They’re psychopathic in nature. They’re interbred with long lineages of psychopaths. And they have no empathy for the public. They believe in audacity. That’s the whole terminology of knighthood, which they all belong to these knightly Masonic associations. A knight is bold and audacious. He does things which are outside the norms of normal morality or rules. They break all the rules. And that’s also the definition of a psychopath as well.
They break all the social norms and don’t fret about it, you know. Hello?

Jackie: I’m here. I’m listening, and I’m thinking. I wondered. I had received that email. And this wasn’t an email saying you’re so full of it, or you’re going to go to hell, or like that. But this is from a guy who’s been at the website. I don’t know if he’s listening. I don’t know if he’s listened to any of the broadcasts yet, but I did email him today, and encouraged him, you know, to tune in and listen. And one of his questions, and I know that you’ve said this before, but it doesn’t hurt to repeat some of these things. He was asking about Revelation. And he says if Revelation has already come to pass, well, what does Jesus got in store for us. And I wonder if you would share with our listeners once again what you mentioned about Revelation and comment on that question.

Alan: Well, Revelations is a… I mean I generally never get sidetracked by the ones who do this deliberately to sidetrack it. And they are out there, you know.

Jackie: But I don’t think he was though.

Alan: But I think he may have been, because I think the website, our website got the same message. But Revelations has many meanings on different levels, and it takes too long to explain them all. It’s a mystic, gnostic interpretation. It’s a brotherhood interpretation. That’s why it’s written in mystical language. But Armageddon happened about AD 70 or 72, when the Romans took the last castle on the mountain. And of course, that was over the plains of Megiddo. The mountain in Hebrew is called Har, so it’s Har-Megiddo, Harmegiddon. That’s what that meant. That’s what it was all written about at that time. The rest of it, yeah, and so they can always resuscitate it and bring it back to life, because you can use revelations over and over for any generation, if you make the sequences happen and the right events happen. And of course, on a higher level, it’s all the zodiacal time cycle.
And people who want to understand the Zodiac should get the third book of Cutting Through, because I go through into the Esoteric Interpretations of Revelations, which has nothing to do with what people think it has. The Exoteric

is simply taught to obedient Christians, so that they’ll think that everything is inevitable and that it’s God’s will. This is one of the oldest tricks in the book, is to make you think, well, it’s pre-ordained, there’s nothing you can do about it. And, in fact, if you try and stop it, you’re fighting God himself. You know. That’s the greatest form of psychological warfare ever devised, and that technique is ancient. That’s why they used to use the Oracles, the priesthoods ran the Oracles at Delphi and other places. And when the Oracle spoke, then you better do what you were told, because if not, you were going against the god’s will. So, it’s all pre-ordained. And they love to teach you everything is pre-ordained, you can’t change anything. What a beautiful weapon against the public, you know, not to try to change things; accept your destiny.

Jackie: In your book one, did you talk about the international priesthood?

Alan: Yeah, I talked how ancient it was, and how it had always been here. And I know that they didn’t just dream up this system beginning with Sumer about 5,000 or 6,000 BC. These techniques came from much earlier times.
There’s been many, many civilizations prior to that.

Jackie: And if they have been in control, as it appears they have. You know, after you told us about that. The international priesthood. Things that I’ve read. So many things that I’ve read, of ancient history, they’ve mentioned the priesthood, but they just mention it in passing. And these are things that I had read before, that once I re-read them, that’s what jumps out at me. The priesthood is always mentioned, Alan. And the priesthood was all-powerful.

Alan: Always.

Jackie: They were the ones ruling the kings, ruling the pharaohs. And they have had that control as it certainly appears now that they have all down through the ages. They’re the ones that were in control of the writings. You know, the Bible.

Alan: The legal system, yeah. We know in Sumer they had so many different specialized priesthoods. Today we’d call them basically categories of bureaucrats, really. Because they had lawyer priesthoods that dealt with real estate and land. Other ones dealt with the trading that went in and out of Sumer. They had a priesthood for everything you can imagine, specializing in different areas. And they also were responsible for mating up kings and queens, so they were into eugenics back then, too. So, yeah, the priesthoods were always in charge. They also decided who the pharaohs would see, as ambassadors and who wouldn’t get in to see the pharaoh. So they had tremendous power. There was one pharaoh in Egypt who realized that he was almost a bird in a gilded cage. And he caught on to the fact that certain envoys were being turned away by the priests and he never got to see them. And he found out by yelling to some of them out of his window. And one day he jumped out of the window trying to get away, and he was caught, and brought back by the priests.

Jackie: Who was that?

Alan: Oh, I’ve got his name somewhere tucked away in my computer brain somewhere.

Jackie: You told us about the one pharaoh, Akhenaten, that he actually got rid of the priesthood, and was teaching the one god or creator, and then after he died, they just, like he never existed.

Alan: Not really. Akhenaten, there was much, much more to the Akhenaten story then. But Aton is part of the sun god worship, or the symbology of what’s behind the sun or light and all that in Masonry. And that’s why you find places like Manhattan, you know, it’s named after him, in a nice esoteric way. It’s all through High Masonry, Aton. And that’s where the word atone comes from. Atonement, etc. But it was really an elitist religion, this ‘god is one’ idea. And also, it’s a truth behind all their religions, even in Brahma, that all the faces of god is just a face of the one deity. That’s what it really means, and it’s the same with the Egyptian pantheon. They’re all aspects of the same deity. Now, that had always been taught esoterically to the priests, whereas in Akhenaten’s day they came out openly. However it was only for the nobility who could get the life of Aton. It wasn’t for the ordinary people. It was still an elitist group. So, each one is a long story, but interesting.

Jackie: I can remember us talking, you talking about this. I think it’s on that first series, when you were on for five weeks at a time, all at one time. And you mention Akhenaten, in a favorable way. You said that even when he had his statues or whatever, that he didn’t have himself all puffed up, he was kind of pot-bellied.

Alan: He had big hips. He probably had bigger hips than his wife. But the one thing about Akhenaten was, when the invasion of Egypt was under way, he ignored all of the warnings that were coming from the outlying areas, which Egypt looked after, or was part of their empire, and he allowed the invasion to occur in Egypt. And no one has ever explained why he allowed this. He didn’t go out to fight them, or send the armies out to fight them.

Jackie: Who were the invaders?

Alan: You had these Hyksos people, and the Habirus, coming in, and they’d already taken some of the outlying areas. And they were sending urgent messages to his new capital. And those Armarna tablets have all been unearthed with these messages contained there, urgent pleas. But he didn’t lift a finger to stop it, which makes no sense, unless you realize that he probably and some of the other elite were moving on after this. Because it made no sense that he didn’t try to defend Egypt. I think in other words, it was a set-up. It was time for the elite to move on.

Jackie: This priesthood, was it the Isle of Crete you said, that there was evidence that they sat there, the probability or possibility, and wrote all the religions?

Alan: They’ve unearthed these huge monastic libraries there. Where they had the religions of all the peoples of the mainlands, and it seemed to be a central hub where these missionaries went out and were basically updating each different variety’s religion for them, you might say. Like a central command, in charge of all the various peoples and the various religions. And that does make sense to me.

Jackie: Yeah. One of the important things, if we could get it, is that religions were made by man. All religions, including Christianity. There’s nowhere in the book, and of course we know there’s fifty-some versions of the Bible, but even in the one, King James, that so many people believe is the word of God. There’s no place in there where Jesus said he was coming here to start a religion. He said he was coming to bear witness unto the truth.

Alan: Truth, yeah.

Jackie: I mean, you know, that’s what they attribute to him, as his words.

Alan: And that’s the best you could do in this world, because you won’t get much further than trying to get the truth out.

Jackie: Right, exactly.

Alan: Those that control religions will take over.

Jackie: Right, so many people seem to miss that. As he said, I came here for one reason into this world, and that is to bear witness unto the truth. And it’s almost like you could see back then the same thing that’s going on today.
And here’s an individual who is trying to help the people to break their prison chains from their minds, of what was going on at that time.

Alan: And then the establishment takes it over and uses the truth to imprison the people. That’s always been the way. It’s no different today. You say the truth. Many small people say the truth, and once enough are saying it, then they give you a superstar to take all those truths you are saying, get to the top, get well known, and then start spinning the truth off in a different direction and renders it harmless.

 

 

April 5th, 2006 Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

 

 

Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Alan had mentioned last night, when we didn’t have an intro to the broadcast, because I was filling in for Darren, that we really do, because it’s grandfather chiming. And I suppose when the weather turns warmer, I’ll be back in the studio, and we won’t have the interruptions. You will, I trust, bear with us through this. It’s just too cold to sit in there for an hour, at the broadcasting equipment there, and do this broadcast. So, I’m here in the family room, and that’s right where grandfather is. Today is Wednesday, it is the 5th of April, in the year 2006. And I’m glad you’ve joined us tonight. …And Alan Watt, thank you for being here with us again this evening.

Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie: I guess I should just say, it’s Jackie and Alan. Alan: That’s it.
Jackie: You know, when I was reading this I was thinking about, Alan, that state of being I guess that we call peace. It is difficult to remember and to knowing what we know that’s going on today and the heartache that’s in this world, and the wars and the killing and the dying and it’s difficult to have that place in your mind or in your heart that’s at peace.

Alan: I think that’s the reason for it. I don’t think there’s a generation that’s been allowed to live in any kind of peace or tranquility since the beginning of this whole system. Because the control of government depends on war or having threats of war from others. And that’s really the primary reason for being for government. That was its first reason, supposedly. And they’ve got to keep wars going, you know.

Jackie: It makes all the sense in the world, Alan. You know, when you said that, because you’ve said it before, it takes a while for that to really register. Even as, like you said, the borders, they created national borders.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: And the only reason that we have borders is that we’ll have something to fight to “defend and protect”.

Alan: That’s right. And then the biggest scam is, especially when you look at Europe, they have the same families in charge of every country having wars with each other. The families never get killed off in the wars.

Jackie: Of course they don’t.

Alan: And yet, that’s the prime reason for pretending that they’re the rightful rulers of those countries, that we’re here to defend you. And so, war has been essential for maintaining control over the public up until now. When they have substitutes for war, there’s many substitutes too. There’s economic depressions, and plagues, and all the usual stuff they can conjure up, to keep us off balance and subservient and fearful, so that we’ll always obey and do what we’re told. So, fear is essential, again, for government, to keep and maintain control. In fact, government is force, like Washington said.

Jackie: Government is force?

Alan: We always tend to forget that. You see, most law is accepted by the public, when it’s relatively peaceful, or at least if they can survive with an extra tax or a fee or whatever it’s called, they’ll dish out the extra fee or license or whatever, and accept that, rather than rebel against it, because the threat of force is always there. So, most people will acquiesce and go along with it. But they all know that force is there to back it up, if they don’t go along, you know.

Jackie: You know, I’m going to use an example that came to my mind. In Pennsylvania State law, and I think what got me looking into it was a friend in Missouri, who told me what the law was there. It’s the same law in Pennsylvania, and maybe it’s the same law in every state, that commercial drivers have to have licenses. And it says it very explicitly. And so, if a person is stopped, and they don’t have a driver’s license, and they say, well I don’t have to have one, because, even if you quote the law and show them the law, and here it is, I am not a commercial driver, they take you to jail, if you resist taking a ticket. It’s happened over and over and over to people. And so, even the stupid laws they have, it just doesn’t matter, Alan.

Alan: I know.

Jackie: It doesn’t matter. They say, no, you have to have a license to drive.

Alan: That’s right. And what they do, most things are done first of all, it’s voluntary. That’s how they brought driving licensing in, in most countries, initially. And then, even road insurance initially was voluntary as well. And then, once enough people have got it, then they bring in the democracy part. Well, it’s a democratic system. The majority have accepted it, what’s wrong with you? That’s how they use democracy.

Jackie: Remember reading about when the income tax was brought in, and I think, wasn’t it after the Second World War, and they were asking people to give a certain percentage of their income to help cover the cost of the war.
And it was totally voluntarily. Voluntary. And then they didn’t stop it. They kept raising the taxes. Pretty soon, income tax.

Alan: It’s tradition. It becomes tradition.

Jackie: Yeah. And of course, people have gone to jail, that have tried to go into the courts, and say, well, but this is a voluntary system and I am not volunteering. It doesn’t matter.

Alan: It doesn’t matter, no. Once they’ve got it on their books, they don’t let it go. It’s a tremendous income for them. And even though the reason for not taxing income prior to that was that a tax on income is therefore a form of slavery. That was in the law books. But they conveniently forgot that, once they accepted it on the books. And Britain was the same. It was called the temporary war tax, and that was how it was introduced.

Jackie: Temporary war tax. And people gave. And you know what? I read about, oh, what the heck was, it was some act, the Douglas Act or something. They passed it in the Congress here, and I think they allocated, I forget how many millions of dollars it was to help rebuild Europe. And after Europe was all rebuilt, the money just kept pouring over there, Alan, out of the “taxes” that they were collecting from the people in the US of A.

Alan: It’s a giant scam. I mean, finance has always been international. We must never forget that. And war is essential for the ongoing of their financing and their interest is essential for the continuation of their system. If the interest was paid up, the banks would lose all power, so you must have ongoing interest all the time. Debt is essential for their system. And war, again, is partly a demolition job. And the reconstruction job for their plans for the future. That’s really what it’s all about, you know, and you see that in the Second World War, where they had plans. I mean, Hopkins that was working with Roosevelt, had plans drawn up for the Reconstruction of Europe.
They even had huge plans for even city centers, and what kind of stores would be in there, knowing the big chain stores would get in first of all. And they had Japan all set up to be the producer for electronics for the future, which it did become. And they set up the Japanese banking system, where the government really acts on behalf as the banker, and gives out the loans to the businesses, and decides who will get business and who will not. So that was all set and planned at least during World War II, and probably prior to it, I’d imagine. I don’t think Hopkins did it all himself. So, they had the whole future of Europe designed for a United Europe. That was all part of the demolition job. Destroy the old, and build up the new, for a new era, you know.

Jackie: And I don’t know if it was in Creatures of Jekyll Island, or where, because, you know, after you read so much and hear so much, but I recall that when they decided they were going to have a war, and they, well, that was Norman Dodd, of course, who testified, you know, to that legislative committee, in Illinois, back in I think it was ’78, that got into the Carnegie records. Wasn’t it Carnegie, Alan?

Alan: It was the Reece Commission, I think.

Jackie: Yeah it was B. Carroll Reece. Yeah, Congressman Reece. And Norman Dodd was, he had a position on the committee. But he said when he went to the Carnegie foundation, they said, well, to see their minutes in that, because the Reece Commission was to study the foundations to investigate the tax-exempt foundations. And he said, they told him, well, we’d like to help you, but our job was done after the UN, you know, after the US entered the UN, and they’re all in some warehouse someplace, but if you want to go looking, you can do it. And that’s what he found, that they were sitting there. It was, I think 1906, decided that there was going to be a war, and they decided it would be in the Balkans, it would start in the Balkans someplace. And then, when they decided to do it, they said in 1914, well, we’ll wait, until the Federal Reserve Act is passed in the US, and then the American people can pay for the war. And so, in 1916, the Federal Reserve Act was passed, and in 1917, World War, wasn’t it? Or that’s when they brought the US into the War? When did World War I start?

Alan: In 1917 they brought the US in.

Jackie: Yeah, it was in ’17 that they brought the US in.

Alan: But what they did too was they brought over from Germany one of the Warburg brothers to be the head of the Federal Reserve in the US. And his brother was the Federal Reserve guy for the Germans.

Jackie: Oh, boy, Alan.

Alan: And then at the Treaty of Versailles, the two guys that presided for both countries for the debt were the two brothers. What a joke, you know. What a joke.

Jackie: Yeah. When you were talking about Japan being set up, you know to be the electronics producer. Sony. Alan: Standard Oil of New York.
Jackie: Standard Oil of New York. Thank you. I couldn’t remember what the S was for. Standard Oil of New York was the Japanese Sony. God, Alan.

Alan: Everything is planned way in advance in the real world. Not at level one reality that we’re kept in here. In level one reality we see the effects of things, and the media gives us the effects of things, but they never tell us of all the planning that went into it. It was the Council on Foreign Relations that introduced the income tax bill in the United States for Americans. That’s who you have to thank for that. And in Britain, it was the Royal Institute of International Affairs that introduced it at the same time in Britain. The same club. It’s the same group. And this was the same bunch who came out on television here, last March, a year ago, and announced the necessity, officially, in their first time in an official capacity, speaking from the board of the Council on Foreign Relations. They appeared on our television, not as individual advisors or whatever, but an actual panel, saying we had to unite the Americas.
And one week later, Mr. Bush and Paul Martin and Fox signed the agreement for the United Americas. So, they’re telling us that they were behind it. This unelected government. And they’re a non-governmental body. That’s what they say in all their books. They’re a private organization.

Jackie: Well, you know what the United Nations is called. It isn’t, it’s not a non-governmental organization, it’s an intergovernmental organization.

Alan: They’re actually a non-governmental organization. Jackie: They are. I know they are. But they call themselves.
Alan: Because they’re unelected. They’re a private organization that was started up by the Rothschilds and Cecil Rhodes and Lord Milner, back in the 1800s, and they’ve decided our policy from then until today, and they have their international meetings. Politicians can become members of it, if asked to be. There’s a private club. And they say that in all their books, they’re a non-political, non-governmental organization.

Jackie: The UN says that?

Alan: No, the actual Council on Foreign Relations.

Jackie: Oh, CFR. Okay. I was referring to the United Nations. Alan: Well, they’re the same thing.
Jackie: I know it is. It’s non-governmental.

Alan: The UN is always talking about democracy, and how every country must be democratic, and yet, I don’t know anyone who’s had a vote in saying who gets into the UN. We don’t get any votes on it. The public have no votes whatsoever.

Jackie: Oh, yes, we do. Alan, yes we do. Alan: In what sense?
Jackie: Well, we’re, I’m being facetious. The voice of the people are the NGOs. Alan: Well, yeah, but really, the public really have no say in it.

Jackie: Yeah. I know they don’t. But they say that is the Parliament of the People. Alan: Yeah, supposedly.
Jackie: The Parliament of the People, because almost everybody, for example, Boy and Girl Scouts are NGOs, and they have, I mean, it’s international. It isn’t just in the US of A, and they’re part of it all. So, every child that’s in Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts. Anybody, any business that joins, what the heck is it called, oh, you know what it is. I was in it.

Alan: The Rotary Club?

Jackie: No, it’s not Rotary. It’s, oh, damn. Businesses join it, to be, you know, part of the club. I was part of it. I’m just having a brain fade. They have it in every tiny little town and city, and then they have state, then they have national, then they have international. And you get to looking at it, the hundreds of thousands of people who are members. It’s not coming up, Alan. But anyway, it will, but that is considered to them the voice of the people.

Alan: And also, the Police Chiefs Associations across the world, they have their own organization attached to the United Nations. The building codes of America, Britain, everywhere come from the United Nations, from plumbing to electrical to building.

Jackie: They have International Mayors Associations. And I was thinking about the Chambers of Commerce. That’s the biggie. And you know what? For our listeners, in our section at Sweet Liberty on the United Nations, we have a thing there on NGOs. Alan, it just makes you squirm when you read it.

Alan: Well, you see, that’s the Soviet. What it is, it’s the Soviet system. That’s what Soviet means, government by councils. And in the Soviet system, it’s the same as this one; the heads of the NGOs are paid for by the big boys like Rockefeller, and financed by them, to pretend that they speak on behalf of the people. And it’s the same with the Soviet system. The Politburo picked the leaders and gave them the politically correct format. And of course, they would demand on behalf of the public what the politicians wanted. So, that’s exactly the same thing. Because the bankers set up the Soviet Union and financed them through their whole existence. The West financed it, funded them. HG Wells and all the biggies went over there. Royalty went over to the Soviet Union and got grand tours of their system. And of course, it was a big experiment on socialism, which is a form of elite control over the masses. That’s what socialism really is.

Jackie: I’ve got a thing here from the United Nations. It’s one of their publications. And on the front cover of it, it says that the United Nations, their whole goal is to become a True World Parliament. And the three things they needed: they needed their own standing army. Well, they need the legislative. They need, just like the parliaments or the governments have, the legal, you know, the International Criminal Court, the International Courts, but they need their own standing army. And they need their own taxation system. And they have to have a Parliament of the People. And that Parliament of the People is what we’re talking about, the NGOs.

Alan: Yeah, POP. Jackie: Pop.
Alan: That’s right, big daddy.

Jackie: I wonder if he’s related to Uncle Sam?

Alan: Very possibly, because if you read Franklin’s writings, Benjamin Franklin said, and so did Jefferson, about the US, he said, this is the beginning of a Federation of States, which will eventually become a World Federation of States. That was the function of the United States in the first place.

Jackie: And you said that many years ago, Alan.

Alan: But they made it quite clear in their writings, that was to be the beginning of a world federation. And Franklin said it would be a world run by a Council of Twelve Wise Men.

Jackie: Do you know we’ve been doing radio together for eight years? That’s a long time, Alan. Alan: I know, yeah.
Jackie: That’s a long. What I mean is, God, I just think it’s so wonderful that we’ve had an opportunity to present this information to so many people, and here we are, still doing it.

Alan: I know. And until recently, we haven’t had a single offer, or made a guest appearance on any of the other shortwave broadcasts that were on the go.

Jackie: Well, you’re not getting them, well, maybe you are, on shortwave broadcasts, but you’re getting them on mainstream.

Alan: Isn’t that amazing. Jackie: I think it’s just fantastic.
Alan: Yeah, that’s the other thing, is unfortunately, I always tell people, we’re under so much surveillance, and information is power, of course, therefore, information has always been under lock and key. And why would the all- seeing eye miss the shortwave radio, that claims to be so patriotic? You know. People should be really cautious about what they get from it, really, you know. It doesn’t mean that everyone on it is deceiving them, but I’m sure many of them are as well knowingly.

Jackie: I know. Early on, I had been invited on different, you know, broadcasts to be a guest. It’s been years since I have ever been invited to be a guest on any shortwave or alternative radio. Literally, it has. And I can remember when they used to do those symposiums, those expos, you know, survival expos and stuff, all over the country, and they were all there, except me. I’ve never been invited. One time, I even asked, because they said they were going to set up a round table. This is the gang, you know, a whole bunch of the broadcasters, and they were going to have a round table, of the broadcasters, and see if they couldn’t come up with some type of grassroots plan. I said, God, I would love to be part of that. I have some thoughts. I mean, we were grassroots, and we did some work, Alan. Truly did some work. ’93, ’94, ’95, right in their faces. And I said, do you think I could be on that. I think I was talking to Jeff, and he said, well, I don’t see why not, I’ll get back with you. I never heard back from them. They didn’t want me. I felt so outside. I’m being facetious. I am.

Alan: The problem is too, I think shortwave, I mean, I know, it’s been printed here in some of the newspapers a few years ago that the Christian broadcasting was set up in the 1950s to combat Communist propaganda. And they used Christian fronts to do it, and the CIA set them up. And I thought, well, the CIA has maybe never let them go, because I hear so much. I mean, the Patriot business is a business. It’s a huge business. And it’s all fear-based selling, stuff for every calamity under the sun and even outside of the universe, even.

Jackie: A few years ago, it was before Chuck passed away, so it’s been at least three and a half, four years. They were having an Expo in Texas. And I started getting calls from listeners, and they said, you might be at the Expo in Texas. I said, what? And sure enough, I heard from enough people, that I realized that that’s what he was saying. And you know, what they were, our listeners were saying, is, Jackie, they’re using that to get people to come there. You know, people who want to meet you. So I called up on John’s program one day, and they were talking about the Expo and everything, and I called up, and I said, I understand that you have told your listeners that I may be coming to the Expo in Texas. He said, well, I didn’t say you were, I just said you might be. I said, well, where in the world did you ever get that idea? I said, I’ve never been invited to one of the Expos. And then John said to Clay, well, did you invite her, Clay? And Clay said, I actually hadn’t thought about inviting her. And I said, well, I just want to make it real clear to your listeners, I’m not going to be in Texas for the Expo. So, there’s a few who just are set apart, and I suppose we’re set apart, Alan, because we don’t pull punches.

Alan: No. You see, you can’t get truth if you shy away from certain holy areas, you might say. To get truth, you have to be willing to go across all, or through all barriers to seek it. And of course, they know themselves that it’s a business. It’s a patriot business. It’s a huge market, fear-based selling is huge. And yet, they can only do it on fear- based shows, where the sky is always falling every day, you know. And that’s the sad truth about people who manipulate reality in order to profit by themselves by very large amounts, I might add, you know. See, this is one of the conditions of humanity that has to be shown to the public. If this type of behavior doesn’t change, nothing will change. The psychopathic drive within people to exploit others has to stop, because if we don’t stop it at the bottom, then what right do we demand that the ones at the top stop their exploitation of us. We have nothing to stand on.
And that’s at the basis of all of this. The psychopath in society in this civilization as they call it, their civilization, gets to the top because they have no conscience.

Jackie: Because they have no conscience. We’re going to take a break here. (Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay. We’re back with Alan Watt. …Alan’s website, I want to give that to you to make sure that in case you don’t have it. Alan’s website is cuttingthroughthematrix.com. There’s a video there. And I know that you’ll want to see it. There’s a lot of information there. And the books, the three books that Alan has written, there are excerpts of the books, Cutting Through the BS, the way it seems to me. That’s not the name of them. But it’s Cutting Through 1, 2, and 3. And when you go to his website, you can check out and literally read some of the excerpts from the books. And you definitely want to do that. And I want to remind you also, that Alan is going to be a guest, on George Noory. Alan, today is Wednesday the 5th, and you’re going to be on the 10th. Well, actually in the morning of the 11th, but that would be Monday? Okay, Monday folks. And I mean, this has got to be, Alan this is about the most exciting information that I’ve heard in such a long time. George Noory, of course, this is the old Art Bell show, folks. They’re syndicated on about 400 or more radio stations. And Alan is going to be able to get out probably to millions of people. It’s a wonderful opportunity. And it’s on Monday the 10th, although by the time we’re listening, Eastern time, it’s going to be 2am, on the 11th. So, whatever your time zone is, in Pacific time, it would be 11 o’clock. In Mountain, it would be 12, Central it would be 1, Eastern it’s 2am, on the morning of Tuesday. I’m staying up. I’m not going to take a chance on missing it. Alan, are you kind of excited about this?

Alan: I was thinking about staying up myself.

Jackie: You mean you’re not going to go to sleep and set an alarm clock? Alan: No, I don’t think so.
Jackie: I don’t know, this is like a miracle to me.

Alan: Well, as I say, it’s a long time a-coming. We just plodded on sort of year after year, teaching individuals, really, and now it’s come to a stage where maybe we can reach a lot more, at a very critical time in our history.

Jackie: It is. Yes. And you know, I’m always saying, with God, Creator, all things are possible. And I do know that that is so. Nothing is impossible. And you and I have talked about this. You’ve said it yourself. They’ve never been successful in fully completing their plan. If they were…

Alan: They have built-in flaws that go with their personalities. They have built-in flaws that go with their personality type. And you can only get so much satisfaction lording over other people. And then you have to start to get something, a better opponent, you might say. And as they get closer to their ambitions, these people will have to start fighting each other. It’s an Achilles Heel. They can’t stop themselves. Because they all seek ultimate power. And now they’re seeing this World Government come into view openly. They want to declare it openly to the public. But there’s only one throne at the top, you see. And these guys would love to have their name chiseled in stone for eternity. They’re always making statues of themselves. And that’s when the struggles will begin.

Jackie: And you said you think they’re already beginning.

Alan: Oh, I’m sure of it, actually. That’s why I always say that human beings cannot handle godhood. Human beings can’t handle it. They’re too petty. And it’s never changed from the days…

Jackie: Well, now, it depends. If we’re talking Jehovah.

Alan: Oh, all of them. I mean, look at the Greek mythologies, where the gods are always bickering and they’re jealous, and they play games behind each other’s backs and stuff, and that’s human nature, you see.

Jackie: And look at all the stuff Jehovah did to prove that he was god almighty.

Alan: Oh, yeah. And only a tyrant really uses force to prove the point. That’s a very human thing. It’s not a godly thing. And people who want to be gods. And these guys at the top truly believe they are, you know.

Jackie: They’re raised to believe that way, aren’t they, Alan?

Alan: They’re raised, and they also have an inner religion. We see it going all the way back to ancient Rome. That’s why Washington has a monument there. That’s apotheosis. High Freemasonry, where you’re raised into the status of a god.

Jackie: What’s apotheosis?

Alan: That’s raising to godhood. And you’ll see the same things with the tyrants of Rome. They had their own ones chiseled and so on. And that’s what apotheosis means. And because Washington started the kickoff for this final round of the New World Order, the Novus Ordo Seclorum, he’s given the honor of being raised to godhood. It was the first openly Freemasonic national creation.

Jackie: We’re talking about the Washington Monument? Alan: Yeah, and the creation of the US. That was its function.
Jackie: Well, you know, I don’t know if this is true, but I had read that when they were trying to get the Constitutional Convention together, there weren’t, states just weren’t coming into it. And George Washington, you know, had retired. And then, when they started proclaiming that George Washington was going to be there, that’s when the states at that time got their delegates together to go to the Constitutional Convention. And so, that certainly would make, you know, give them a reason to raising to godhood, wouldn’t it?

Alan: It was an open, well, I say open; it was a closed-door meeting when they supposedly—they didn’t draft it up in that hall.

Jackie: No, they didn’t.

Alan: Because, I mean, we know that Franklin, during the Revolution, was the ambassador to France. And he was showing copies all over France, long before that. So, it was already pre-drafted. And they just had their little Masonic meeting in that hall, and closed the doors, and guarded them from the public.

Jackie: And nailed the windows shut.

Alan: Well, it’s the temple with closed windows, with darkened windows, that’s the Masonic temple. Jackie: Say again.
Alan: That’s the temple with no windows. They have to always cover the windows in a lodge meeting. That’s a

Masonic lodge meeting. And that’s why you had 55 of them in there and only 33 had to sign it, for the 33 degrees. Jackie: Oh, my. I didn’t know that, Alan.
Alan: So, it was an open Masonic creation.

Jackie: And George Washington signed the charter for the first bank. Gave them a twenty-year charter. So, certainly. He deserved to be raised to godhood, didn’t he?

Alan: He certainly played his part well. And he profited well, because he gathered so much land during the Revolution, that he had, I think, ten times more afterwards. So, his accountants were very busy. But that’s the reality of the world we live in. It’s run by very high secret societies, in collusion with very rich men in the world. And they plan the future. They always plan a future, which they will always be in charge of. As I say, Franklin wrote in his own memoirs, that nobody reads anymore, and so did Jefferson, that that was the beginning of a Federation of the World, you know. And they’d eventually have a World Council run by Twelve Wise Men. That’s in their own documentation. And who leads the charge for the… Who brought out the League of Nations?

Jackie: How could somebody read something like that when they don’t even know it exists, Alan? See, that’s the point. I’m putting myself back in the place where I was. I believed, you know, as a little, as a child, when we were taught in history that he cut down a cherry tree, and told his father, father I cannot tell a lie. I believed it, Alan. And I believed he was a wonderful, our first president. Abraham Lincoln was my hero when I was in the fourth grade.
Because he stopped slavery. And I memorized the Gettysburg Address. Not because it was like a required thing, but it meant that much to me. So, it isn’t that people won’t read that stuff. They don’t even know it exists.

Alan: Well, Hollywood has taken over the teaching of dramatic revised history. And of course, the visual with the emotion in it and so on, has far more of an impact than reading a book by the actual author himself. You know, a Franklin or an Adams or any of them.

Jackie: I know, but something, something has to be a catalyst. A seed has to be planted, Alan, for anybody, even a child, to say, wait a minute, that isn’t true. Because, I mean, you’ve known this stuff, evidently, since you were born. So, I can relate to what it was like to be truly caught in that system. I mean, I believed that December 25th was the birthday of Jesus. It was the most precious time of the whole year for me, every year, ever. And it wasn’t just gift giving. You see what I’m saying, Alan. So, we lived in those lies. And until somebody says something to you.
Alan, you blew us out of the, you blew us away, so far away. Well, you know, you and I talked on the telephone. You and I talked on the telephone for six months before I invited you to come on. And I remember the first day you called me. And it was in ’98, it was the summer of ’98. And I answered the phone. It was after I got off the air, you know, after 6pm. And you said, hello, and just started talking, and I found myself listening to you. I had the phone, pressed up against my head. And it was like I was listening to you with every cell of my body. And you know, when I said, well wait a minute. Why are we having this conversation? Why did you call me? And then after, you know, we kept talking. You kept calling. We kept talking. And I was like, well, who is this guy. You knew so much that it was unreal to me. And finally, it was in December of 1998, and I don’t know what the heck we were talking about, but I thought, oh, my God, my listeners have got to hear him. And you came on. And then, of course, as you remember, they kept saying, keep, bring him back. Bring him back. Bring him back. But, Alan, you have to keep remembering in your mind that those of us who are caught in that, it isn’t because we don’t care. It is because we don’t know.

And then, when you say something to somebody, like a friend that was visiting. When I started talking about, you know the hurricanes and weather control. And he said, oh no, uh-uh, uh-uh. That’s too vague. That can’t happen. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. And I tried to explain. And he said, you’re not going to convince me. I said, I don’t want to convince you, but I would like to give you some information and hope that what you see will want you to look at it further, and then you will make up your own mind. But he wasn’t even interested in seeing it, Alan. So those are the ones, we say, okay, goodbye. You know. But it’s planting seeds. And you know, that’s what you’ve been doing so beautifully, for all these eight years to Sweet Liberty listeners, and people that call you. And, but it’s so far out of your realm, because you’ve always been “conscious” that it’s hard for you to relate to those of us who have been

caught into it. And it’s a tough damn pill to swallow, Alan.

Alan: It is tough. But you see, I know too, growing up in Britain, for instance. I kept wondering why they put on these silly dramatizations of upper crust families in the 18th or 17th centuries. It was always the upper crust families, you know. And I thought, they’re painting this as a paradise of the past.

Jackie: The ones with the maids and butlers.

Alan: And the spotless clothes and carriages and horses. And yet, any library would tell you that that was for a very small tiny few. And the rest of them lived in awful misery during the Industrial Era, where you were lucky to hit thirty years of age. Very lucky, actually, if you hit that. And you would be crippled by the time you did reach that age.

Jackie: And that’s not an exaggeration.

Alan: Not at all. Even Franklin mentions it in his own memoirs. He says, he saw the factories in England when he was over in England, and he saw the factory workers coming out with no shoes, and they’d come from a shoe factory. They couldn’t afford to buy the shoes they made. And that was standard. He said, America could only keep independence on an individual basis, as long as it remained on an agricultural level.

Jackie: Yes. And they did away with that, didn’t they?

Alan: That’s right. So, they all knew that. Jefferson knew it too. He said the same thing. And at the same time as they knew that, guys like Jefferson were already investing in armament companies abroad on an industrial basis. In fact, Jefferson helped to design the first, they call it, stamp plate parts for the flintlock, whereas before they were all handmade and filed to fit. It was actually machine parts he was designing for factories in Europe, to make muskets. Whereas before each musket was handmade, every part.

Jackie: They were making the die for them.

Alan: He was making the sort of conveyor type system, to industrialize it. So, they were all involved in foreign investments.

Jackie: They were. Alan: In industry, yeah. Jackie: Yes, they were.
Alan: And they were telling their own people at home, you can remain free as long as you remain on an agricultural level.

Jackie: You know what I’m going to do? Remember those first five weeks you were on? I promised, John, from Australia, wanted to buy the tapes. And you know, there’s so many people that should hear them, because we did 20 hours together, Alan.

Alan: Yeah. Well, I’ve just put up twelve of them on CD, just today. Jackie: Twelve of what?
Alan: Of those tapes.

Jackie: How did you do that?

Alan: They’re burned on MP3 CDs.

Jackie: I’m talking the first twenty that we did.

Alan: Well, this is the first of the twelve of the series. Jackie: You have the tapes?
Alan: Yeah. It’s been transferred to CD. I’ve got them for sale, because I’ve got to get… I’m not selling the books. Hardly anything is moving.

Jackie: You what?

Alan: I’m saying, I’m not selling the books because hardly anything is moving. So, I put this one up for sale, you see.

Jackie: Oh, you’re putting it up for sale. Alan: Yeah, it’s up for sale, now.
Jackie: Oh, cool. The first twelve hours. Alan: The first twelve on one CD, yeah.
Jackie: Oh, wow. Well, how does somebody… Alan: And that will be followed with the next bunch. Jackie: Do you have copies of all of them, Alan?
Alan: Yeah, I should do.

Jackie: You mean, you taped every one of our broadcasts. Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Well, then, do it.

Alan: Yeah, I’m doing it, because I’ve got to get some cash to pay for the site and so on. Jackie: So, how do people get them?
Alan: They can see it on the website. It’s got the price there for twelve in the first set. The format it comes in, which is MP3 CD, which plays on pretty well all computers.

Jackie: Okay, good. Yeah, but, Alan, will they play on somebody’s CD player?

Alan: A lot of CD players will play it. And also, your DVD player for your television generally plays MP3 as well. Jackie: The DVD?
Alan: Yeah.

Jackie: You never told me this.

Alan: Oh, it was a spontaneous thing. Because I was talking, how can we pay for this and so on. And I thought, well, why not sell these lectures?

Jackie: Oh, my God. Those are our first twelve hours. Alan: That’s the first twelve, yeah.
Jackie: Do you need it? I’ve got all the tapes if you need any more of them. Alan: Yeah. Well, I might; I’ll have to go through the box.
Jackie: Well, go through the box.

Alan: I’ve got about three or four boxes.

Jackie: It would be wonderful because, you know, that was our first. You know, Mike Campbell called me. I was going to make a trip to Saint Louis. And I guess it was a couple years later, or three or four or whatever. And he said, have you ever listened back to those first five weeks. I said, no. He said, well, you need to listen back again. Because now, when we know what we know, you get so much more out of it. And so, when I took my trip to Saint Louis, I took all ten of those tapes, you know, two hours on each. And I listened to them all the way to Saint Louis. And Alan, it was amazing. And I should probably listen to them again. But you tell me if you need any more of those tapes, and I’ll send copies to you.

Alan: I’ll have to go through the other box, and count up the rest.

Jackie: Well, that would be wonderful, if that’s a way that you can, you know, finance the website.

Alan: Yeah, and it’s also the cheapest way to buy them, because, I mean, even twelve one-hour cassettes, or it’s actually 120-minute cassettes, costs a fair bit of money just to buy them, you know.

Jackie: It does.

Alan: So, it’s cheaper to buy the CD.

Jackie: Well, that’s the point. …I’d much rather that you make them available on CDs, Alan. Alan: Well, I have to, because I mean, there’s no income coming in.
Jackie: Yeah, right. I understand that. When did you do this?

Alan: Oh, about a week it took basically, and it was just today it was ready to go. Jackie: Well, cool.
Alan: Just put it up on the site today.

Jackie: Alright. So, folks, go to cuttingthroughthematrix.com. And what are they going to look for, Alan? Alan: It says it on it, the original first twelve hours of talks on…
Jackie: Sweet Liberty. Oh, my God. I can remember getting testy with you so many times. Especially when we were talking about the Constitution, remember that?

Alan: And gold and silver.

Jackie: And gold and silver. “Well, it’s better than nothing, Alan.” Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Does it make you laugh when you listen to them? Have you listened to them? Alan: Little bits of them. Little bits.
Jackie: I remember them well. Because you ticked me off quite a bit sometimes. Alan: It’s a course in deprogramming.
Jackie: I know. Well, that’s wonderful news. That’s more wonderful news. So, we’re almost out of time. We’ve got probably about two more minutes. So, what would you like to say before we end this evening and this week of broadcasting?

Alan: Well, maybe in another couple of weeks, I’ll have all the rest done on CD. And, as I say, there’s so many ways to play it from your computer to your DVD player. And other people too can buy it, because the twelve is only going to cost them [see websitefor ordering information]. And that’s a steal. Because it’s a long time for transposing each one, one hour for each time, you’ve got to continue the whole hour and keep changing, and then change from CD to MP3, to get it all on one disc. So, that’s a whole bunch of transitions, but at least it’s done. The first set is done.

 

April 12th, 2006 Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

 

 

Jackie Patru: Alan Watt is with us. And Alan, many of you, maybe all of you tuned in Monday night. Or I understand also that it was played again last night, early, earlier. Alan was on the George Noory Coast to Coast program for three hours on Monday night. And I stayed up, well it was 2 to 5, and even when it was over I was totally wide awake. To me, it was the most beautiful, wonderful, like I said, last Wednesday night, it seems like a miracle for him to have had the opportunity to reach so many people with the information that only Alan Watt can share in Alan Watt’s way. And so, therefore, it was pretty cool, Alan.

Alan Watt: Yeah, it was, as they say, we all get our five minutes of fame, you know.

Jackie: Well, actually, to me it was magnificent. You know, there was nothing, really, I don’t know if there was anything that you said that we haven’t, you know, that our listeners haven’t heard and that we haven’t discussed. But, I was sitting there listening and I was trying to listen from the viewpoint, if you would, of a person who this stuff wasn’t so familiar. And it was the way that it flowed, it was the way that you presented it. It’s another classic, as I can see.

Alan: Well, the response has been awfully good. And I think there’s still 19,000 on the website today, just looking into it, yeah.

Jackie: Oh, my. That is just. That’s fabulous. Well, I’ve heard from some people also, you know, you had mentioned Sweet Liberty. And, of course, there’s a link at your website, and I had a few emails from some of the listeners. And a friend called, because she was listening to George Noory, and heard you mention my name. And we haven’t talked for about five years. And it was pretty cool. But, George Noory, well, of course we know that Coast to Coast is syndicated on, I guess almost 500 AM stations. And we know that the media is controlled. And

we know that everybody that is on Coast to Coast is not a credible person. But, I heard him, and I thought he asked you some really excellent questions. And these were questions that he asked in response to something you said, not like, oh, there’s a question laid out, you know to ask. And I think that at least what I heard, it was getting through to him, because I heard him sigh, a couple of really long, deep sighs, Alan. Did you hear that?

Alan: Yeah. I think what’s happening now, I think I said it on the show too, that everyone has this feeling of expectation that something is coming down. And everyone in the business of media or entertainment, it’s all mixed together now. It’s so interwoven, media and entertainment. Even your local six o’clock news is half Hollywood and movies and so on. So, entertainment, fiction and non-fiction have become so tightly interwoven that it’s difficult for the average person, and even those involved in the media to actually tell the difference at times. They’re living in half fantasy, and so they ignore the nasty realities that they see in the corner of their vision coming their way. And I think some of them are starting to see that they can’t keep going on in this direction and deny, deny, deny, and just simply go off into the fantasy side of things. Because what’s happening now is so real, so vitally important for everyone and everyone to come that people have to be aware of what’s going on to change direction. Because there’s only one direction we’re heading in, and it’s a nasty ending for most people.

Jackie: Alan, I had a couple or three emails that was saying, you know, if this is all true, what are we supposed to do? Is there anything we can do about it? And I did send back some of my own comments, but would you please respond to that, because we may even have new listeners tonight, from you know, the George Noory broadcast. Would you respond to that question that maybe lots and lots of people have?

Alan: They have to do, and it’s very difficult at this stage of the game, but people have to do a crash course in reality check here, because if they don’t, and I don’t mean going off and chasing space aliens or reptilian people, and all this stuff that’s put out to distract you into the fantasy again, until nothing is real. I mean a crash course on what’s been happening in the world, for at least the last hundred years. That’s all they have to really go on. They can go much further back if they want to. And see all of the treaties that have been carefully step-by-step signed into by every country on the planet, except those who are under attack now in the Middle East – that’s the reason they’re being attacked – to bring the world into this unification process. Who was behind it, initially, the NGOs that are funded to push it, and a lot of these NGO groups are ex-politicians and bureaucrats that are actually employed by big foundations, like the Rockefeller foundation. These are the guys who are really pushing this agenda forward.
And last year, for instance, when they signed the unification of the Americas deal, a year ago in March, at Waco, Texas, that’s a good example of how this was done, because, that week, twice that week before the signing, the CFR came out as an official organization for the first time, to declare a broadcast to the nation. Now, before we’ve had the occasional one member of the CFR as an advisor to people. But here they are as a panel with the CFR board behind them, saying that we have to unite the Americas to compete with Europe and China. And they were drafting a bill for the politicians to sign. So, they were basically admitting they were behind the setting up of the unification of the Americas, which is true, because if you go into the history of the CFR, which is just the American branch of the Royal Institute of International Affairs, it was set up by the Cecil Rhodes and Lord Rothschild foundations in the late 1800s, to bring world unification with three world trading blocs. So, here we are being guided by non-governmental organizations that are funded by multi-millionaires. And we don’t vote these guys in. And we have no say in what they do. And it’s time we did.

Jackie: Well the pathetic thing is that these non-governmental organizations, every single one of them, and there are thousands, are considered by these want-to-be gods, that this is the voice of the people. That’s their people’s parliament, Alan.

Alan: It’s the Soviet. Soviet meant government by councils. And this is the New World Soviet that Mikhail Gorbachev talked about in his last speech when he was still the prime minister or president of the Soviet Union. He made the speech, which is available. And he says Communism isn’t dying, it’s going on to the next stage.

Jackie: There you go.

Alan: And sure enough it was. It ties right in with Norman Dodd’s report and the Reece Commission to do with the

big foundations who said that their purpose was to merge comfortably America and the West with the Soviet Union.

Jackie: And I do not recall the name of the book, and you might, that was written by Congressman Reece, or he did maybe the forward. I think he wrote the book, but maybe, it doesn’t matter. It was a book that was written based on all the findings of the Reece Committee, back in, what, fifty-whatever. And we have that book listed.

Alan: It’s called Foundations: Their Power and Influence.

Jackie: Foundations: Their Power and Influence. Thank you. That book, folks, if you’re interested, oh my God, Alan, I knew about this. You know, Congressman Reece’s, but the book wasn’t available at the time. And then it was reprinted. Chuck had a copy of it. And he was on his way to the airport, that’s when he was visiting me in Illinois, and he pulled it out of his briefcase. He said he was going to read it on the plane. I was so excited to have that. I said, oh, please, you can’t. The information in that book just tells it all without any fancy words. …It’s a research book, isn’t it Alan?

Alan: And it’s all documented. I mean, what we’re talking about here is not some harebrained conspiracy theory. This is all factual publications put out by the big boys themselves. And you can find, go into the diaries of Cecil Rhodes, when he set up his foundation as a front man for the Rothschilds and for the British elite to bring about World Government. And the fastest way they found to unite the whole of Europe, and all the little, the many little countries that eventually became the Soviet Union, was to create Communism and force one system of centralized government over them all, which standardized their culture, their bureaucracies, their laws, everything. And that’s why they created the Soviet system. And now we’re in a blend, we’re in the Third Way, which is the blending of Fascism and Communism, into the Third Way they call it. So, that’s where we are now.

Jackie: Yes. I have a question for you, and you brought it up tonight, and you mentioned this Monday night. Well, first the conversation I believe was talking about the depopulation plans, that 90%, 80 to 90% of the population is supposed to be done away with, because they don’t need any more than that. And then you mentioned, because I think maybe somebody had asked what do you see in the future. And I was glad to hear you say, I know what they intend, because they haven’t been successful yet, it doesn’t mean they’re going to, but we certainly know they’re on the track. You mentioned, you know, in the future, these trade blocs, the three, like the Trilateral Commission. But then, my question is, if there are so few people, and the only people left are really people that are left to serve the want-to-be gods, what are they going to do with these trade blocs?

Alan: Everything is a step by step. It’s not the end. It’s a step towards another part of an agenda. Jackie: Okay, what’s the next part?
Alan: Well, the next part, they won’t need people in the traditional sense. They’re going to create, they have the capabilities now…

Jackie: I know, but Alan, when we talk trade blocs, we’re talking commercialism here. Alan: That’s for a short time.
Jackie: Okay. But I understood you, at least it seems the inference was that that would be after the majority of the population had already been done away with.

Alan: These blocs will be up and running about 2010, as three separate, well, individual trading blocs under world government. That’s their agenda. But it’s only partway towards the next part, of course.

Jackie: That’s right out of George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four, isn’t it?

Alan: This is the real Never-Ending Story. And that’s what they mean when they say that man is the clay. He’s

infinitely malleable. He’s the source material, he’s the raw material, and they can keep shaping us and shaping us to the next step, to the next step.

Jackie: Malleable and moldable. That’s what the words were used in Brzezinski’s book.

Alan: And the thing is too, after they signed the Waco deal last March, and showed it on the television up here about the unification and Fortress America, etc. The integration of all security forces has been done. And eventually too, the sharing of tariffs, meaning taxation. After that, another reporter came on from the CFR to give the CFR’s spin, which is supposed to be our eventual opinion. And he says, well, we’ve got to unite, he says, to compete with the European Union. Do you see how they do it? First they create one bloc, you see, and then they point to them and say, oh gee, we can’t compete with them, we’ve got to do the same thing to compete with them. And once we eventually amalgamate, then they’ll say, well, gee, we’ve got to compete with China. And then you have a race to the bottom for wages. This is how it’s all structured. This is deliberate planning.

Jackie: I know. I want to go back to the question. Besides a person, you know, doing, getting on the fast track, getting up to speed. I think that the questions that were asked were like, what can I do as an individual? Is there any way we can stop this, etc, etc? In other words, besides knowing about it, Alan.

Alan: See, they’re following the old Revelations plan, which is a plan which has been used many times over. Once again, Revelations is infinitely malleable. And so, they aren’t going to be happy until every individual gives allegiance to this system. And we don’t realize we’re doing it all the time, when we’re forced to go along with another ridiculous rule or law or fee, or whatever it is. And we know that the registration of everybody is coming along here. They want all the heads to be numbered.

Jackie: I’d say we are already. Wouldn’t you?

Alan: We are, but they also want us to officially have our little biometric card, our little ID card. And that’s a stepping stone towards a chip implanted. And that’s been documented at the Loyola University, World Science Meeting, sponsored by the US Department of Commerce. So, it’s a step-by-step process. So, we are acquiescing to every step.

Jackie: Well, Alan. It does come down to… Alan: The individual.
Jackie: But try to get in your car and drive without a license plate.

Alan: Well, the thing is, you have two options. You either go the whole way here to oblivion or start saying No now, as an individual.

Jackie: No, but wait a minute. You drive a vehicle, you have no license plate on it?

Alan: I’m not talking about licensing. I’m talking about literally taking an ID card that I can’t buy or sell with without, etc. In other words, they can starve me to death if I won’t comply? What kind of choice is that? When people give you no choice but theirs, you’re really in trouble. And we better understand that, quick.

Jackie: Well, I’m going to repeat something you said a long time ago. In fact, it was when I was getting frustrated when we were in that first period of, you know, our conversations together on air. We were talking about the Federal Reserve system, the money system, and in fact, I was mentioning Tupper Saussy’s book, and I thought it was really cool, because he was, you know, using the Constitution that no state could accept anything other than gold and silver coins in legal tender for a debt. And so there were actually people in towns that were presenting IOUs and saying as soon as there’s legal tender. And I thought that was so great, and you said, no. And I said, well, why?
And you said, well, because they control the gold too. And I know that is so. And I want to side-track here for a

second, because there are so many people that are pushing to go back to a gold standard.

Alan: I know, I know. See, again, with all of this, you see, this starts with what they call in modern history as the beginning of civilization. Civilization is their system.

Jackie: Well, anyway, when you said no to that, I said, well, it’s better than nothing, isn’t it Alan. And you said, no. And I said, well, why? And you said, because you cannot get out of their system by using their system. Gold is their system. And then I said, frustratedly, well, then what’s your solution. Because if this isn’t better than anything, nothing, then you said, if enough people, when enough people understand this, it is going to, it is going to just dissolve of itself.

Alan: It won’t be easy, because I’m telling you, people are going to suffer here. People always suffer to get a breathing space in this system. And that’s what I mean, a breathing space. Which generally lasts about a generation, if you’re lucky, because these guys at the top have been at this intergenerationally for thousands of years. And it’s literally coming down to a personal choice and everyone’s decision. We know, and they know at the top, that we can’t go on like this consuming the way we’re consuming. They know this. These are economists at the top. They see the world as their planet, and all the resources as being theirs for their offspring in the future. They think about the future. They’ve trained us not to. They’ve trained us to think you’re being well managed. Just let it happen by your betters at the top, these unseen hands at the top, you see. And sure enough, the population, they think in the now and live in the now, and I won’t think about tomorrow, and I’ll just be happy now, and they live day to day like that. But these guys at the top have looked at the resources of the planet, they look at our present consumption, and they don’t intend to allow us to keep consuming at this rate.

Jackie: They knew it couldn’t last. When they designed the plan, they knew it couldn’t last.

Alan: Exactly. Because they’ve done this before. I mean, the Sahara at one time was a flourishing subtropical climate. It was flourishing. They’ve found all these skeletons of elephants and all the usual jungle animals, lions and so on, under the Sahara. That was a flourishing place with trees and so on. That was made destitute in an age before this, by the same guys who run this system, the predecessors of the same guys who run this system.

Jackie: How did they make it desolate like that?

Alan: They raped it. They raped it and raped it and raped it, and used it up, burned it up. Jackie: Took all the natural resources and the trees and the plants.
Alan: The Egyptians had records of ancient civilizations that had risen to high heights and pinnacles and then simply collapsed. And it’s well understood in academic circles that when you live in what is called an advanced culture, meaning you’re totally interdependent, everyone is interdependent to live for subsidence, etc, in that system, then it’s the easiest system to collapse completely. How many people today could actually live on their own in the wild?

Jackie: In the wild, I don’t know.

Alan: Most of them would give up without a thought, you know. Jackie: They’re burning all the forests down anyway, Alan.
Alan: But what I’m saying is, that we are in a system that’s been carefully crafted with this present feeding frenzy of cheap junk from China, to keep us happy, as they go into the next step. And it’s all done on debt. Everyone is running credit cards. And, when it’s time, when everything is completed, they’ll just pull it, and then all these massive police forces, which are really just world armies, will come and take care of it. They’ll be taken care of, those police guys and the military. They always do that. The Romans did it too, you know.

Jackie: What do you mean, take care of them?

Alan: Of the people who will be rioting. See, the mobs always riot. They’re always unorganized when chaos occurs. Most of them never see it coming. And pandemonium breaks loose. That’s what they’ve been carefully building up inside every country in the West for the last 20-odd years, under amalgamated multi-jurisdictional taskforces. It’s a massive world army to take care of the chaos that they expect to come, when most of their plan has been completed. They don’t intend to keep us happy and consuming like this, you know.

Jackie: Do you think by any stretch of the imagination that people who are consuming and consuming and consuming are happy, Alan?

Alan: It’s not a matter of happiness. Jackie: That’s what I’m saying.
Alan: But what I’m saying is that’s what they’ve been trained to do. That’s what they think is happiness. Look at every ad on TV. You’ve got a smiling face next to a toothbrush to a broom to a new car. In other words, everything that you see is supposed to make you happy, and people have been sold on that, that idea.

Jackie: And everybody is floundering and wondering what’s wrong with their lives. Alan: Well, that’s why you’ve got Dr. Phil to guarantee…
Jackie: Well, you know what it comes down to, to me. And we are talking about this right now, kind of the way I answered one of the questions that was sent to me. I said, it’s really up to each and every one of us as an individual what we’re going to do, and the only way, I said, I haven’t a clue to say what you should do or what anybody else should do, because, if we ask and we listen, we’ll be guided from within, and it always starts, like you said, it comes down to choice, in every single day, and every moment of every single day, we have choices to make, within us.
Every single one of us know the difference, right from wrong. And maybe it is simply to begin to do that, and to take a look at ourselves and to begin to treat one another the way we want. I’m not saying do unto others the way they do unto you, but, do unto others as we would have them do to us. And the possibility there, at least for the individual, that the discernment comes. Maybe that inner guidance comes. And, whatever it is they’re doing is what they’re supposed to be doing.

Alan: See, they’ve all been trained, this is the problem, everyone has been trained, and not just this generation either. It’s been going on for an awful long time. Every generation has been trained that you don’t ask questions as to why. They always say don’t ask the question. This is what religion used to do.

Jackie: You’re not even supposed to question religious questions.

Alan: But, what I’m saying is, that used to be the standard statement given by churches to the commoner, when you asked about the meaning of life, they’d say, look, don’t ask about first and last causes. It’s not your problem. Leave that to us. Just you do what you’re told. And that’s basically how the public are trained. They’re shoved into this mass conditioning system to come out uniformly, and it’s called the educational system. So, they all come out with the same opinions, and they think that they’ve been taught things that are true. And they all give the same pat answers, but they’ve been conditioned all to think in a certain process, which is non-think, really. It’s a dumbing down process which eliminates the natural person within. And so, they come out uniform, and then the whole purpose they’re told is to get them into a job. And then the purpose from then on is to simply support yourself through life in this system. And, of course, once they’re in the rush of living and caught up in it, they don’t have time to ponder very much at all, except, they do know, really, deep down, that they’re not very happy.

Jackie: I know, but maybe that’s why we’re having this conversation. Because, you know, you’ve said this yourself, that it isn’t for everybody. Because the masses have always been the masses.

Alan: I know.

Jackie: And it seems that it’s been that way down throughout the ages.

Alan: There’s always been a large percentage who seem quite content being ruled over by unseen people. They don’t even know their names, in fact, and don’t care to.

Jackie: Because, basically, they’re brain dead.

Alan: They’re happy slaves in a sense. Even though the system they live in gives them neurosis and worry etc, even though, rather than look for any other way, rather than try the unknown, they’ll always take the known.

Jackie: Well, because they’re accustomed to the chaos. Alan: Even though the known is a disaster… (Commercial Break)
Jackie: Hi, we’re back. I was trying to watch the clock there to give us a warning, and wasn’t able to do it before the break. So, we’re talking about, okay, the masses, and the way it appears to me, as you said, it’s been this way down throughout the ages, and yet there’s always been a few who have escaped it somehow, at least. Well, like I didn’t escape it. I just began to wake up one day. Like hit over the head. Because, I was there too. I was, I believed everything that we were taught in history was true. I mean, I didn’t believe everything in the Bible was true, I knew that. But, what I’m saying is, there are people who eventually, if they haven’t escaped it right from the get-go, they wake up, Alan. Okay, you remember the time we were talking, and it isn’t like I’m trying to be Pollyanna here, but we have had these conversations, and I think it’s worth repeating, because, it can leave people so hopeless when you look at this, and especially when it’s new, this is all new. You really do feel like you’ve been socked in the gut. But I remember we were talking one time, and you were talking about this, the fact that the ones we know of, the want-to-be gods, they’re actually controlled by outside whatever.

Alan: Influences. Jackie: They’re atheists.
Alan: They’re not really atheists.

Jackie: But you said the ones that are really involved are very aware of the power within us, and that their greatest fear is that enough people will wake up and realize who we really are, more than just a human being here, but spiritual beings. And I asked you, how many do you think that would take. And you said, I don’t think a lot, because there’s not a lot of them.

Alan: It’s a true story. When someone is standing in a massive crowd can yell that the king has no clothes, and the spell is broken. And that’s what it takes. It takes a few people who have enough gumption to say, enough is enough, of all this polite talking around diseases. Because, it reminds me of a medical hospital, and all the interns go around with the top surgeon, or whoever, and they stand at the bottom of a bed and around a patient’s bed.
Now, if you have a big tumor right in the middle of the patient, and you talk about all the secondary symptoms, but you’re not allowed to look and talk about that tumor that you can see there, then you’re never going to get to the problem. And that’s what we hear in the media. We hear these vague rumors of things, vague statements.
Everything is so vague to do with big changes and big treaties being signed and all this kind of stuff. And we’re all so polite, we don’t want to say, wait a minute here, could you explain that to me. It’s time we stopped this stuff, and we demand that everything be explained fully. Because either government is your master or it’s your servant.
There’s no in between here.

Jackie: Well, I didn’t know that government was our servant ever anyway. Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Governments were never made to be servants.

Alan: But that’s what people are trained to really believe. You vote them in and somehow they’re responsible to you, and that’s the oldest con game in the book. Even Plato talked about that. He said, democracy always leads to a communistic system, which leads to dictatorship. And this was tried so many times, over and over in ancient times, and the reason they keep doing it today is because they know where they’re going and they want to go through these stages, through chaos, etc, until ultimately you have a new king of the world. And that’s really what their goal is. There will be one day they hope to put their own man in there as first king of the entire planet.

Because all the religions, and this is the problem. People are trapped in their cultural religions that they’re born into, and because of that they follow the guys at the top. The guys at the top of all the religions are part of the same religion, an inner, esoteric religion. And I don’t care what you belong to. If you’re following a mainstream religion, and even the New Age religions, the ones at the top are all part of a top esoteric elite. You always lead the people through cultural religions.

Jackie: Didn’t you say that the base of that word is ligio? Alan: To tie. You bind them.
Jackie: To bind, and re-ligion, means to rebind. Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Religions are manmade. Alan: They’re manmade.
Jackie: But, you didn’t acknowledge that statement that we were talking about that I was talking about. Remember when you said that, Alan?

Alan: What was that?

Jackie: Well, you said that the real controllers know that there is a power within us, and they don’t want us to know it, that’s why we’ve got religions.

Alan: That’s also why we have a Sovietized system where the average individual, whether he knows it or not, it’s a subconscious thing, he’s been trained that you’re just a – through science by the way, science is the technique that the Soviets used all along. And again, it’s fake science. They train us to believe it’s all true. But they tell you that you’re just a blob of protoplasm that happens to exist, and it’s all by chance. And so, you’re nothing special about you. And every function that you have and every drive that you have is programmed into you by your DNA and your genes, until you say well geez, I’m just a walking cesspool of chemicals here. And that’s what you think of yourself. It’s time you reclaimed your own personal sovereignty as an individual, unique being, you see. And once you come to that understanding, my God, you find, I have a voice and it matters. It matters what you think. And stop being a little blob of protoplasmic jelly. There’s more to an individual than that. And they’re well aware that a thought that really is thought out in a deep sense, is transmitted across the planet, as soon as it is put out there, as soon as it comes into being. And the ancients called that thought forms, of course. The Greeks knew all about this. They were trained by the Egyptians. And thought forms.

Jackie: And they use it. Remember you told us about that triangle they had set up. Alan: Yeah, the higher black lodges they call them.
Jackie: And they’re sending out particular frequencies or messages, or.

Alan: They force their will upon those within the triangle. In other words, the three points, say, in a state, north, south, and west, and they force their will upon those within. That’s one of their higher rituals.

Jackie: But it’s like getting us to speak their language, Alan.

Alan: It’s almost like hypnotic tapes, played in your sleep, you might say.

Jackie: But it’s like, you know, they give us the language, and they’ve got all these symbolic meanings, these esoteric meanings of words in the language, and yet, we speak it, it is in a sense, we are unknowingly speaking their plan.

Alan: Your whole language, the whole English language is encoded to bring this about. I’ll give you one simple little quip example here. Everyone has been trained by Hollywood. Do you remember when that Moore spoke out about 9/11 on an Oscar night, I think it was or some big night?

Jackie: Oh, Michael Moore.

Alan: Remember that night he first spoke about that in the States. And in the same award show, I think was the actress, her name is Sarandon.

Jackie: Susan Sarandon.

Alan: And she said, we, the culture creators. She said, we the culture creators must speak out about this. Now that’s a direct translation that was always used in the Soviet Union, because, in the Soviet Union, they knew that we emulate what we see. We think we’re being entertained here. We’re not. We’re being programmed. So Hollywood’s function is to create the next step of the next part of the culture. And so, in other words, there are so many techniques now. The movie industry used to be called quite commonly, the cinema. And the cinema, if you speak it in a phonetic sense, backwards, is simply Amen Is. Amen, the god, Amen, you see.

Jackie: Amen is.

Alan: And that’s the single eye of Ra, or Lucifer. And that’s the projection that comes out of the back of the hall.

Jackie: Okay, let me ask you a question, because this came into my mind Monday night. Remember when you were talking about 911, and you said that 911, 9/11 is a very important date to them esoterically, symbolically. Well, it occurred to me when you said that, that we all call it 911. They gave it to us. I mean, we have 911 as our emergency number. Now we have 9/11, the holocaust at the World Trade Center.

Alan: It’s also Chapter 9, verse 11 of Revelations where the Beast from the Bottomless Pit, the Beast of War is unleashed. What a coincidence.

Jackie: Okay. So, here’s the thought I had. What if we quit using 9/11, and it might only be ten of us, but, in other words we keep saying 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, giving power to that very important date to them.

Alan: I know.

Jackie: What if we just call it something else. Call it the Holocaust at the World Trade Center.

Alan: Well, no, no. You’ve got to be even careful there. Because a holocaust is a deliberate sacrifice for something to be given in return.

Jackie: The World Trade Center, wasn’t it a deliberate sacrifice?

Alan: If you understand what you’re saying, it is. But for most people, they don’t realize that it’s the halo, the sun. It’s cast into the sun. It’s a burnt offering. That’s what it means.

Jackie: Okay. So we just say the World Trade Center Tragedy. My point is, it’s sort of like calling our children kids. Alan: I know, goats.
Jackie: I know, but beyond just a baby goat, the Goat of Mendes is the universal symbol of Satan. So, when we call our children kids.

Alan: That’s right. And of course that’s what the Communists also said. Beria said it back in the 1930s, that by neurolinguistics, which is the alteration of the meanings of words, and the substitution of words, we shall demean the human being down to a lower level.

Jackie: Thank you. So, we call our children the spawn of Satan when we refer to them as kids. Alan: Well, apart from that, what you’re doing is putting them into a non-human category.
Jackie: Yeah, okay. So, we stop doing that, enough people, at least, I quit doing it, and I know other people that when they find out about it. It enraged me Alan. Okay. So, what I’m saying is, just on this one particular thing, let’s quit calling it 911. Let’s quit playing their game.

Alan: We should, and again, the whole darned English language is so multi-encoded. Jackie: I know, but at least it’s not 911.
Alan: And the thing is, until people can think above the language that they’ve been trained into. You see, there’s more to language than just… And they know it too. We see symbology everywhere. And this symbology, your subconscious, actually, it’s really the sea of the unconscious which recognizes it. And you can be programmed just as easily through symbology, which they do all the time. We’re getting flashed with symbols on TV and ads in magazines, and logos. So, but there’s a much higher form of natural symbology too, within nature. And that is where the true meditation comes in. That’s when your mind is flowing freely, and it gets above your conditioning.
Instead of meditating yourself into a stupor, you’re supposed to meditate yourself into a wakefulness. That’s the real form of it. And that means that all your faculties are working, because you have more senses, you see, to use, which most folk don’t use at all.

Jackie: Well, one thing. We have to have quiet time to do that, and for people who live in cities, it has to be a very intentional thing. And I do know that, because I was in Saint Louis, and well, we were in the ’burbs, but you still had traffic and children and stuff like that. So, you find a quiet place, like, for example, where you live, where I live. It’s quiet. And you can hear it. You can hear the birds. You can hear the little peepers at night. You can hear the leaves rustle on the trees.

Alan: It’s so quiet at night I can listen to my Ford truck rusting.

Jackie: There you go. Well, that’s what, see. So, some of us are in that place where it’s easy. But for people who are in densely-populated areas, it isn’t impossible. But, you don’t put headsets on when you go jogging. I mean, give yourself some time, like you said, allow those thoughts. If you’re in your car, turn the radio off. Use it for some

quiet time. And it’s amazing the thoughts that will start rolling through your mind, Alan. Even Revelation type things.

Alan: You see, children do it naturally. They go into a natural meditative state. If you’ve ever watched them around the age of three, four, five, sometimes their jaw just hangs open and they’re staring at something, and they’re far, far away, but they’re in a natural meditative state. That is trained out of us through the school system, where we’re taught, what are you doing daydreaming? Get back to your, you know, pay attention. They’re destroying a natural meditative state that people used to have right through their entire lives.

Jackie: And it goes even for us, I mean, who are in the country, have the quiet, put on a television, put on a radio, you have shattered the silence.

Alan: Shattered it, and also, the public have been trained to get up in the morning to the radio. Jackie: I know it.
Alan: And then, all day at work, sometimes in factories they blare music, in shopping malls. Jackie: Oh, my God, everywhere, the elevator. It doesn’t matter where you are.
Alan: And then you’re getting, I don’t know if people realize it, they got all these subliminal messages. There are companies that sell this. This is standard. This is not conspiracy here. All those little, happy little dreary songs you hear in the elevator or in stores have programming in there, to don’t steal, or buy, buy, buy, like the movie They Live, which everybody should get and watch. And then they get back at night from work. They’re tired. They put their feet up, they watch the TV. In other words, professional people whose job it is to give you downloading are putting thoughts into your head all day long.

Jackie: You know what just came into my mind when you were talking about coming home from work tired, put your feet up and turn the television on? In my mind, I saw a family together without a television on. And that can be.
Families can be together without televisions, without radios. They can talk with one another. They can communicate, they can listen. And you know, maybe that’s, in my mind, what I’m talking about is the way we’d be every single day, as much as we can possibly be, as close as we can to walk that walk. And I don’t care how tired a parent is. If the children have been without the parents all day, they need each other.

Alan: And the problem is again, the cycle has been…

Jackie: I’m talking about people who are listening to this broadcast right now. I’m talking for. Alan: The families, you mean.
Jackie: I’m talking for, to, yes.

Alan: And what I’m saying, though, see, this would be fine if you could nip something in the bud before it starts. And all you need is one generation to take it for granted that the state is bringing up your children. And they do subconsciously. They never mention it vocally, but the state has taken over the conditioning, long ago, of their children, until they’re at a state now of Socialism. And they don’t realize this either. They expect the government should support their children and take care of them in Nursery schools and daycare.

Jackie: And you know, it’s amazing. If we give children a chance, what they really, really, really respond to. And I know, because I’ve experienced it, when the grandchildren come in the summertime, and they come out of the city, they go to bed at night listening to their radios. They each have their own individual little players with little headsets. When they come here Alan, we’ll put the TV on to watch a movie. But we don’t wake up in the morning and turn a television on. I talk to them about the dangers of going to sleep with the radio on. I didn’t get hassles from them.

When I told the children, and Ashley was twelve at the time, so, Amber would have been seven or nine, whatever, Brandon, they were twelve and under. And I thought that they might think, oh, gee, she’s being so silly. But I just simply told them that it occurred to me that when we call our children kids that we’re calling them baby goats. And I said, you are not baby goats. You are children. You are young people. I’m not calling you kids anymore. And I thought they might kind of laugh at me. But they didn’t. And when I said, if I, because it sounds kind of formal to me, you know, children. It was hard for me at first, Alan. And I didn’t slip many times, but I said, if I slip, just remind me, we’re not baby goats. And Alan, I slipped a few times. Every time I did, in unison, that’s what they said. We’re not baby goats, mama. And we went outside. We did the garden. One day they were going out, they were shelling peas or something. Amber came in to gather up their little headset radios. And I said, what are you doing babe.
She said, we’re going to. I said, oh, no. I said, just leave the radios in here, and just listen to the birds out there. She said, okay, and I heard her tell Ash, mama says forget the radios and listen to the birds. In other words, Alan, they respond. They do respond. But they need an adult, who cares enough to step in there and make the change for them. And I know when they go back home they go back into it. But, when they get their summers here, it’s a different experience. All I’m saying is, it isn’t impossible.

Alan: It’s not impossible, and you’ve got to realize something that all dictators down through the thousands of years have known, because, this is a science. Everything is based on science and knowledge. Children want to be guided. They really do. Now, we’ve been trained since the 60s especially, and the 50s and 60s and 70s, that children are rebellious and they don’t want guidance. And that’s not true.

Jackie: Thanks to Dr. Spock.

Alan: Because, if you go back even to the Young Communist Party, where they wanted to divide the young from the old, because the old are contaminated with their old thoughts, you see. And then they brought the children up by the state. The same techniques are applied here in a more clever, you know, a more subdued fashion, but very effective. And all the great dictators know that when they want to take over a country or a world, they always go for the young. And that’s why you had the Communist Youth, the Hitler Youth, and every other youth movement. It’s run by the guys at the top. And even the New Age movement to an extent that bypassed the parents and grabbed the children. And this is all intentional. It’s the same techniques over and over again, because they never fail.
Children actually want guidance. And they want guidance from someone that will spend time with them. Jackie: Exactly.
Alan: You see, as an actual real living person who will listen to what they say.

Jackie: And that’s why I had this picture in my mind, you know, parents coming home, put their feet up on the stool, and say, well, how did your day go children. What did you do today? And talk. And to have dinner together. And talk around the table, and laugh, and have fun together. And you know what else I found out about them? They love to hear stories about us when we were young. And when I get going, they’ll say, tell us another one, mama.
Tell us another one. You know, sometimes your thoughts just pop out and you tell them something and they get a big kick out of it. And they’ll just sit, and they eat it up.

Alan: What we need is continuity.

Jackie: Maybe if somebody says, what can I do? Maybe that, right there, is the important thing in the whole world is the way we’d be with one another. The way we’d be with our friends, our spouses, our loved ones, our anybody, but especially family. Keep it together.

Alan: It’s continuity, continuity of generations.

Jackie: And have a family be a haven for each and every individual in that family. They all have their little life they go about, and the one safe place there, at least for the children growing up is there. Because mom and dad are there, or maybe mom or maybe dad. If it’s only one parent then you’ve got to do it for both.

Alan: Remember what Maurice Strong said at the Earth Summit, and that Earth Summit was made up by one of the Rockefellers actually and Maurice Strong just presented it. And that affects the whole world, once again, this big NGO organization, unelected, making our world plans for us. And Maurice Strong said that the last vestige of the family must be destroyed. And that’s the old Communist regime again, because continuity between generations was their big enemy, because a small family is representative of a tribe. And they destroyed the tribe long ago. When there’s no family that will stand up together, then government is your direct master that will dictate to the individual.

Jackie: Yeah. The Big Brother who loves you.

Alan: That’s right. And you have nobody to turn around to help you. And that’s what they’ve always known. Jackie: We have one minute left to go here tonight.
Alan: Well, people have to get themselves into gear. And they have to realize that it’s coming on fast. And they’ve got to start to be honest with themselves, and once that happens, you’d be amazed what happens within those around you, and even at great distances too.

Jackie: At great distances. You know what. I’d like to talk more about that maybe next Wednesday night when you were talking about a thought. We talked about this once before. And it is so exciting. And I would like to revisit that maybe next Wednesday night, okay?

Alan: Sure enough.

Jackie: Thank you. And folks, remember that Alan’s website is cuttingthroughthematrix.com. If you haven’t seen the video, what was it called? Reality Check. Watch it folks. And there’s lots of Alan’s broadcasts on there too.

 

April 19th, 2006 Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

 

 

Jackie Patru: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is Wednesday. It is the 19th of April in the year 2006. And it’s getting warm. The grass is getting green, the daffodils are out, and the little birds are singing, and it’s just been delightful. And I hope it’s just as delightful where you are. And I’m glad you’re with us tonight, ladies and gentlemen. We have Alan Watt with us tonight, of course. And Alan has just been invited on so many radio broadcasts, folks. I hope you can hear me over grandfather [clock]. He looks like he’s getting a little slow, doesn’t he, Alan?

Alan Watt: It could be, it could be the weather.

Jackie: No. Yeah, it could be or it could be a little screw in there that needs to be turned. Let me share our spiritual message here. This is very short, very sweet. Listen to this, folks. Listen to this. “Love waits on welcome, not on time. Love waits on welcome, not on time.” So, Alan, my goodness, we talked just earlier this evening, and you’ve got about, at least three I think that you mentioned, and you’re going to have to leave early tonight. Well, at five till.

Alan: Maybe five or ten till. Maybe ten. Jackie: Not ten.
Alan: I’ve got scribbles all over the place here.

Jackie: No, not ten, Alan. Because I don’t have anything at hand prepared, so you can leave at five till, okay. Alan: Well, yeah, I’ve got these little scribbles and things. I think people think that guys like me are sort of either

retired or living on cash, and I do this as a hobby. But they should know, it’s not like that at all. I mean, I cook for myself. I fix my truck, which I’m doing right now. And all the stuff that gets mailed out I do too. So, it’s not a hobby. And it’s not my income, either. But I think a lot of people really do think that when you switch on a TV station, for instance, or a radio station, just because it’s there they think that you’re professional and that’s what you do.

Jackie: And that you get paid for it.

Alan: And that you get paid for it. The money just magically rolls in.

Jackie: Yes, I understand that, with the Sweet Liberty website, I’m sure that I wouldn’t be exaggerating if I said that, each of us, Darren and I, have hundreds of hours in it, Alan, over these years. Even preparing an article to put it in.

Alan: And just even taking one tape, say, and then putting it on a CD, and then formatting it for the website for downloading, that can take hours and hours, just for one. For one hour. So, there’s no team. There’s no staff here doing it all.

Jackie: Well, let’s put it this way. Let’s ask anybody who’s listening, who appreciates the information that has been imparted by you, if that’s the right word, via this broadcast. And of course, you’ve been on others, but speaking particularly to our listeners. If you appreciate the information, maybe, Alan, I’m glad you brought this up tonight, and folks, this wasn’t planned. Alan and I never know what we’re going to talk about. But it is true that, and Alan, I can relate to that. When Chuck was here, I always felt that I had a helpmate, so if I let the ball go on something, he’d pick it up. Well, like you said, you do everything. You know, you cook for yourself, and then, of course you have to do the dishes, and you do your own repairs, plus you do engine repair and building and all sorts of odd jobs to allow you to be able to do what you’re doing. And folks, I hope you hear this. I want to mention this, and I’m not saying this to be derogatory, because I think sometimes people say things without really thinking. Like you said, Alan, they just think automatically that, I guess, I don’t know.

Alan: We have been trained that way. We’ve been trained you flick on a switch and there’s the TV or the radio station. And we knew that too, when we were on the shortwave broadcasting. And sure enough, we asked to get help, and some people did. Most didn’t. But most of them then would phone and ask if the show was off the air, and say, well, what happened to you? We were always going to help; but they didn’t do it. And that’s how it happens.
One day you’re not there, and what you’re left with then is the established opposition. And you know, the big boys, because they put their opposition out there, the superstars for you to follow round in circles. And then, you get no different, no unique information whatsoever. You’re back in the loop.

Jackie: I’ve had a lot of listeners call, and say, I wish you were back on the air, there’s nothing to listen to anymore. Alan: It’s a routine now. The shortwave is just a routine.
Jackie: Well, the thing is that the Sweet Liberty listeners, long-time listeners, learned a lot, and when they tune into the other broadcasts, they realize what it is. They don’t realize, people, most people don’t realize, it is entertainment. It is entertainment, and they’re pretty well produced, and the information.

Alan: And there’s staff and there’s teams.

Jackie: But there was one gentleman that wrote to me. And he said that he felt that people who do what we’re doing and don’t ask anything for it, and he wasn’t referring to me, or anything, but just that he thought it was great that he could go to the website and download archives and things like that, and that he thought that the people were really for real, who did things without for money. And I said, well, hmm, let’s look at it this way, because I know I found this out, Alan. And I told you this, and this is God’s honest truth. I went through my entire life savings. And I don’t regret it. I don’t begrudge it. Because at the time, what we were doing was very important to me, and I felt important to the country, but the point is, literally, when Chuck and I were getting ready to move here, and I went to close out my account, there was only $2,000 in it. I had a six-figure savings account, Alan. And I spent it from 1991

to the end of ’95, it was all gone. And thank heaven, heaven sent me Chuck, because, Alan, I didn’t even know I was broke. And when I got that $2,000, and I called the bank, and I said, somebody has been withdrawing from my account. And he said, Jackie, no. This was in Carlinville, small town bank. But they sent me every single withdrawal slip and it was there, and it was gone. And, as I pointed out to this gentleman. I said, if the people who are doing what they’re doing are doing it for free and they run out of money, guess what happens. They can’t do it anymore.

Alan: I mean, there’s two professions I could choose from, but I’d rather do something that’s honest, you see. And I certainly could get by a lot better than I’m doing. I’m not doing this to sell anything. I don’t make money, even on the books, which I make up myself here right on the floor.

Jackie: Well, maybe you make four or five dollars, Alan. I mean, you did raise the price five dollars, at my insistence, because I knew you were barely breaking even with the work, with the books. Because, when you’re only getting ten or so done at a time, you’re paying through the nose for each copy.

Alan: Yeah, and I also asked if you get more done, is there a discount, and they said no.

Jackie: Well, see, where I go, there is. But you have to have a lot. Like, there’s a little bit of a break at a hundred. There’s a better break at three hundred. And at five hundred, there’s a better break yet. Well, you can’t afford to do that, because you don’t have the upfront money to make the savings, so that if your book sells.

Alan: And when I send them overseas, it’s $28.50 just for the mail. Jackie: To mail it?
Alan: To mail them overseas.

Jackie: What’s overseas? Oh, to like Europe and that.

Alan: That’s right. Even the ones to the States, if I was going first class, would be about $20.00. I take second class instead, you know.

Jackie: Well, I know it’s getting terrible over here, but I remember when our stamps were like 20 some cents a piece, when I would get mail from Canada, a stamp was in the 50 cents. So, I know, as ours has gone up, yours had to go up tremendously.

Alan: And plus, we have 15% tax on top of the price we see on the envelope. Jackie: You have what?
Alan: Because we’re more democratic than you are, we pay extra taxes. So, we pay 15% over the cost. So, whatever they charge you, it’s plus 15% extra.

Jackie: For what?

Alan: For everything. Paper, envelopes, mailing. There’s another 15% on top of the stamps. Jackie: Oh, that’s for their handling your mail. That’s called handling charges, Alan.
Alan: Actually, I think they’re called pocket charges. They go into big pockets at the top there, big ones.

Jackie: Yeah. You mentioned something to me the other day, that you, well, and you didn’t seem surprised. I was. You have had a couple book orders, but you said that people aren’t buying the books. They’re watching the video, you know, free on your website. But that video doesn’t even compare to the information that’s in your books. One

of the things that really brings it home to me, is that you’ll use in the book, with the diagrams and photographs, they’re old, they’re photocopies of old books that we couldn’t even get our hands on. And so, it makes what you’re writing, it makes it ring true. And I remember one particularly, one of the kings or pharaohs or somebody was like a hermaphrodite. Who was that?

Alan: That’s the famous Akhenaten.

Jackie: Akhenaten. Well, anyway, there was a photograph up there. It wasn’t Akhenaten. It’s in one of the books though. It might be your first one, but the point is, I was surprised that so many people that go into your website and that go into Sweet Liberty are not ordering the books. But you said, well, it’s part of the programming. People don’t read anymore. I for some reason held our listeners in a whole different light, that they would be the ones that would want to get their hands on something that would convince them. Maybe they believe what you’re saying. But it’s different when you’re looking at these ancient writings and stuff, and you see, then you say, oh, my God, what he said was true. So, I don’t know what to say about this.

Alan: What’s wrong is, as I say, everything now, and I’m so surprised, because apparently the sort of PayPal thing, which is a play on something, people should say it over and over and they’ll get it, what it means. But it’s only been around for about five years or so, really big time. And in five years, the people don’t know how to go and buy a postal order any more, or mail something.

Jackie: Or they want PayPal.

Alan: And they want instant, instant you see.

Jackie: Oh, and I wrote PayPal down all in one word. Papal?

Alan: Papal, yeah. It’s a big, the bank, you know. And in five years they’re so conditioned that they’re ready, almost, for their chip.

Jackie: But Alan, I have always held our listeners in a, it didn’t occur to me that anyone listening to this broadcast, with the information that, even when you weren’t on, but especially when you’re on, the information that has been imparted from this broadcast, for ten years it was, actually eight on shortwave, I wouldn’t think that anybody would listen that really wasn’t seeking truth, and that was above, not above, but beyond or outside of, the programming, and well, instead of buying a book and reading, but to sit and listen to somebody, or watch somebody talk. Maybe a lot of it, this just occurred to me, you now, the news on television. Because they, people do have a tendency to believe everything that announcer is saying. Maybe this is an override. And they say, well, I know it’s so, because Alan Watt said it. You know how many times I said, do you remember those first twenty broadcasts that we did.
You know. I don’t know how many times, but I can remember so often saying, I don’t know that this is true just because Alan is saying it. Didn’t I, Alan? I didn’t disbelieve you, but just because you were saying it, I didn’t know it was true. And then, of course, over the years and with the books that you’ve written, especially those first two, well, I guess because they were such eye openers to me, and then, now after all these years, you know, it was like listening to you on George Noory. And, I talked to another one of our Sweet Liberty listeners. She said, there wasn’t anything you said that we didn’t already know because we had covered these topics so much, but she said, what a great refresher course it was. But there has been such wonderful information imparted, and folks, I don’t know. It’s up to you. Maybe you don’t want to get Alan’s book. But maybe you would like to help support the cost of the website. One of our listeners and a friend of mine, Alan, Darren had put out a thing and said, you know, that if he couldn’t get some help, I didn’t know this, because Darren has been paying the cost of our website this whole time. But he said, he needed some help, and Jerry, one of our listeners that actually, his help has just been immeasurable. But he said, well, we can’t let the website go down. So, he called Darren, and said, tell me how much it is, you know, for the year, and he would finish it out. And that’s what I would think and hope somebody who has the funds to do it, or somebody who would be willing to say, look, I don’t have a lot, but here’s five bucks, or here’s ten bucks, because every little bit helps.

Alan: It helps, and it really is, as I say, and I hate even having to mention this. And I think people are so used to hearing the begging pleas from the shortwave from the big boys, who are selling everything except the kitchen sink, and that will come shortly with a built-in shortwave or a light on it or something. And I’m selling nothing. I’m giving the information away on the site for them. And it’s not because I’ve got an ulterior motive, selling anything. It’s because I know what’s going on, and that people have to get it very quickly, where we’re going. Very, very quickly, because the time is getting so short. They’ve been trained so carefully and craftily, because the boys at the top understand their natures, how they adapt so quickly. They’re ready for the cashless society. They’re ready for having their whole life exposed by the government, which by the way, is called blackmail. They’re very good at blackmailing people. And some people will say, well, I’ve got nothing to hide.

Jackie: I know.

Alan: Well, people should be indignant, because privacy is an essential part of freedom. Privacy.

Jackie: And over here we call it pry-vacy, folks. But I’m sure they knew what you meant, but, when you say pam, and then I have to figure out you mean palm. I want to make sure our listeners know.

Alan: Yeah, well, you say tomayto. Jackie: And you say tomahto.
Alan: Yeah, that’s it.

Jackie: Well, I know. I always felt the same way when we were on shortwave. In fact, it got to the point we’d get so far behind, and Chuck would say, you’ve got to do a pledge night. And I’d say, Chuck, honey, not just yet. And finally he’d say, look, I’ll do it for you. He dreaded it, but I dreaded it more. And yet here, I mean, it’s like, you know, Chuck told them. I didn’t, but, oh my God, my life has been dedicated to this. And just one hour four nights a week, what you put into it, as far as research and etc, not that I ever wrote everything down and stuff like that, but preparation, the time that you give, and yet, and it was for them. Because I knew it all, or I couldn’t have been sharing it with them. And yet, I hated to say, we need help here or we’re going to have to go off the air.

Just to make it easy for people so they don’t have to look it up, do you want to tell them a little bit about the books and how they can get them, or how they can write to you if they wanted to.

Alan: Well, these three books are really, it’s an eye-opener. I don’t go through the whole history of the Illuminati to entertain you or anything like that. There’s lots of fake ones put out there, for you to do and amuse you and amaze you. I show you symbols and symbology that’s been controlling your mind all your life, and you haven’t even been conscious of it. And I show you the ancient symbols, etc. And what I’ve done, has been much copied by the big boys, believe you me. And if I was to say something new today, I guarantee you they’d all be quoting it tomorrow. That happened just this week, in fact. I mentioned about the secret societies on one of the other shows, and the next day, a person in Britain, who’s well known for chasing crocodiles, he’s got….

Jackie: We can say names on this broadcast.

Alan: It doesn’t matter. The fact is, sure enough, out came a whole bunch on secret societies. And I even mentioned the other day on a blurb I did about movies to see, about one movie that was called Enemy Mine, and my God, the next day, the D&J show on the shortwave mentioned Enemy Mine. I thought, my goodness, you know.
Because they must keep the big boys on top of all the information that’s coming out, you see. And that makes it seem as though they say it first, and then they spin it, of course.

Jackie: Alan, I wanted to say this tonight, also. On your behalf, but I believe that you’re going to concur wholeheartedly with me. For, example, there was one broadcast you were on, and you knew the background and bio of the person, and you’re not on anymore, because something came up and you told the truth, and they didn’t

like it. And that will happen. But you’ve been invited on some broadcasts that actually are hosted by controlled opposition. And I wanted our listeners to know, I think this is important, that just because you’re on a broadcast with somebody, doesn’t mean that you endorse or embrace in any way, shape, or form. It’s that you want to take the opportunity to get the word out to as many people as possible.

Alan: That’s it. And I think also, since the world was conquered, divided, and subdivided, etc, right down to the minute atom, almost, division is the big controlling factor here by the big boys. And sometimes it’s better to try and converse with someone who’s sworn to be against what you stand for, in the hope that on a one-to-one basis you’ll get through to them, rather than cause conflict. Once you argue, the game is over, you know. So you can sow a seed here and there, and it’s up to the conscience then, because that seed won’t go away from that person.

Jackie: Right. It might be slow germinating, but the seed has been planted. I just wanted to say that though, because I remember when Jim McCanny was on Coast to Coast, and we talked about it, and I said, you know, the thing that concerns me, is that we know that no radio broadcast is going to be on 500 AM stations, all over the country, unless, maybe knowingly, or unknowingly, Alan, they’re putting out disinformation. And then it kind of, I was concerned that he would get all jumbled up with all the rest, but I told him, I said, I really understand it. I mean, I don’t have a particular thing, but had I ever been invited to go on there, on a particular topic that I could talk about, I wouldn’t have said no.

Alan: See, the problem today, well it’s sort of boiling it down into something which is just a bit too small, but one of the problems today is that people don’t know the difference between fiction and non-fiction, and they’ve been trained that way for their whole lives, actually, since they began to bring Sport and Entertainment into the news broadcasts. So, half of it is Hollywood and half of it is supposed to be news, until it’s all sort of mushed together, and there’s wars abroad and people getting killed, and then there’s somebody getting an affair in Hollywood, and some sports guy kicks a ball somewhere and gets applauded. It’s all mushed up until nothing is real anymore. And so, people can’t differentiate what’s real or not. And they’ve been caught up in a fictional, entertainment type program. And their minds are being shaped for them, unawares, because it’s primarily through entertainment that you do preconditioning. You put it into their minds of a possibility to come. And once you accept it in a fictional form, because your defenses are down, when you start to see it materialize in your life, you don’t oppose it. It seems somehow familiar. And that’s because it’s predictive programming, they call it. It’s a form of programming. And they found this out in World War I, in Britain. When the BBC began its radio broadcasts, they were running so short of troops that they used Tavistock Institute to come up with ways of behavior modification amongst the public, and Tavistock suggested using fictional plays on radio. And so, every day at noon, everybody would tune in, and you were left with a sort of cliffhanger, tune in tomorrow for part 2 or 3 or whatever. And that was how they started to put these ideas into your head, and of course, it was to do with war and bravery and heroism, and there was real people called Tom and Joe and James, and here they are in the trenches, going to be killed. What will happen next? See tomorrow. Now, this was all geared at the youth to get them to join up. And so, they used that very successfully.

Jackie: And they make heroes out of the soldiers. They glorify war is what they do, Alan.

Alan: They do. And the Pentagon has admitted from two years ago, they put millions into Hollywood after 9/11 to put out these movies like Jarhead, to get the youngsters to join up.

Jackie: I don’t know what Jarhead was.

Alan: It means a Marine, you know. But it’s aimed primarily at young black guys, who really are sort of the ghetto types that have no…

Jackie: No future ahead of them.

Alan: Yeah. And suddenly you put a uniform on and your government suddenly respects you. You see, that’s the message. You get instant respect if you put that uniform on. But really, all you are is a number to go off and get killed. And like Kissinger said in the book about Kissinger. He said, when he was asked the question, what does he

think of the American troops. And this was in the Vietnam era, that was by Woodward and Bernstein. Kissinger said to the reporters, he says, Well, the troops are just dumb, stupid animals who are used for foreign policy. Now, what more do you want?

Jackie: I heard David Lang from the Bank of Canada on a tape from the fourth World Wilderness Conference. He got up to talk about the bank. He said, this is a wonderful idea, unfortunately, the cannon fodder that inhabits this earth would not understand a not-for-profit bank. It’s got to be a profit. But, that’s how he said it, that casually.

Alan: He said this generation is the cannon fodder in that speech. Jackie: Kissinger said that?
Alan: No, that was at the World Bank one, I’m talking about. But the Kissinger one was his reply about the troops, and he was telling you honestly what they are. They are dumb, because they’re too young to know anything.
They’re stupid in the sense that they get the same propaganda as everybody else. Jackie: Oh, we have to take a break. I heard the music. Okay, keep your thought. (Commercial Break)
Jackie: Alright. We’re back folks, with Alan Watt. Alan, you were talking, well, you mentioned the movie Jarhead, and how they use entertainment.

Alan: That’s so a young guy can fantasize of being a hero, because every young man thinks he’s immortal. He cannot imagine death. And it’s always going to be somebody else, and death is unreal and it’s in the movies and so on. And as I say, Woodward and Bernstein said that about foreign policy. And we better realize that foreign policy is not dreamed up on the spur of a moment, or a catastrophe, or whatever. Foreign policy is a far-ahead planned strategy of money, economics, etc, and takeovers. That’s what foreign policy is all about. So, when Kissinger spoke the truth, he said the soldier is a dumb, stupid animal to be used for foreign policy, he was talking as one of the elite, knowing that that is basically the truth. They’re not going off to fight for the reasons they think they are. They’re going off fighting for a long-term strategy that was planned way in advance. And they should realize that. It’s like Karl Marx said, every system that’s ever existed in civilization, and he was a Mason, so he should know, civilization being their system of money and control and power. Every era has been basically formed on an economic system. And that’s the system we live in today. It’s an economic system. And war is about economics, and not for the public of a country.

Jackie: Well, you know, they have multiple layers for everything they do, and remember when Norman Dodd got those archives from, what was it, Carnegie Foundation. And they said that they had set up a committee to study whether there was any other way better than war, if you wanted to change a society and a people and make sure they never returned to where they were. And this committee, the conference, came up with the answer and said, no. There is no way better than war. And, of course, it is economic and it is also part of the way that they mold the people.

Alan: I think one of the keys to it, is that, you see, the people who have always run empires, run empires by the use of terror. And terror can take many different approaches to how it effects people. Some are very subtle, some are overt. Sometimes it’s all shouting, more than reality, like the Bird Flu for instance. But there’s terror none the same. Now, when war ceases, and they know this, once they get their global government on the go, when war ceases they have to keep everybody, to legitimize the need for government, and especially massive government, as they have, you must find enemies everywhere. And of course that was the Soviet strategy. It’s been well tested there, because once the Soviets took over, or the Bolsheviks went in and the Soviet regime began, and they took over all those little countries, no one was invading them; there was a little invasion by Britain for a sort of half-hearted attempt, but afterwards they were pretty safe. No one was invading them. And to hold power, the Soviets had to find enemies everywhere, and that was a reign of terror, you see, that there were terrorists everywhere, so the government had a

reign of terror. And they just picked people up all over the place, accused them of being spies or anti-Soviet and so on. And trained the public that they were all around you, they were within you, and it could be you yourself. And that is what we’re seeing now with this War on Terror, for the New American Century policy, that Cheney and Perle and Wolfowitz and the rest of them planned in the ’90s, and published. What you’re seeing is a reign of terror on the minds of the public, everywhere.

Jackie: When you say Cheney and who was it? Alan: Wolfowitz.
Jackie: Okay, but there were people behind them.

Alan: Oh, there was Perle too, Richard Perle, and a whole bunch of them. Jackie: Okay, but what I’m saying is, it wasn’t just them.
Alan: Oh, I know.

Jackie: Because, you said this many times, and I am convinced that these people that we know of that are out there in the limelight…

Alan: Are frontmen.

Jackie: They’re frontmen. They didn’t plan anything. They probably got together and smoked a few cigars and had a few drinks, and they had all the paper in front of them, because it was already laid out, but they were the ones that were acknowledged and now becoming infamous for it.

Alan: You never ever put your main men to the public. Because, if you lost them, then a good part of knowledge is gone. You always put someone who is very useful, but really is also disposable, if need be. And that’s standard, all down through history.

Jackie: And they don’t care. You know, they can be slammed, I mean, of course, the media being controlled, they’ll write their pieces to get their “say in”. Nothing ever happens to these people. So, it doesn’t matter to them whether they’re being slammed in the eyes of the public.

Alan: Well, that’s what the president is for. See, a president and a prime minister, their job is to take the heat. They take the heat. And it’s a wrestling match for the public. You know, you slang Giant Mountain Man against Giant Haystack.

Jackie: And there are so many, oh my goodness, so many movements afoot, to get Bush impeached, as though that’s ever going to happen, Alan.

Alan: It wouldn’t make any difference, as we know, because whoever takes over is sworn to the same agenda as he was.

Jackie: Well, in other words, if he did get impeached, it would be part of the plan.

Alan: Yeah. I mean, John Kerry already said when he was running, and it was so funny at the time, because there was a Canadian from BC who was actually managing the Kerry campaign for America, a Canadian citizen, and there was David Fromm from Canada, as the main advisor to Bush. I mean, I thought, boy, this is a joke, you know. And they were writing the scripts and everything for Americans to hear, using all the Hollywood clichés and everything else. And I thought, boy oh boy, you know, it’s a wonderful web they weave, indeed. But, yeah, presidents and prime ministers just take the heat. And we don’t vote a new government in. What we do always is vote the old guys

out, we’re so fed up. That really is how democracy really is about, you know. Jackie: Right. Democracy. And we don’t vote anybody in or out, do we?
Alan: No, never. In fact, the bureaucrats that have been lifelong bureaucrats in federal governments and the heads of those departments are not voted in by anybody. Most of them are unknown to the public and remain unknown, and yet, they dialog straight to the United Nations for all their parts of the agenda.

Jackie: You know, back in ’92 when I was campaigning for Bo Gritz, I told you, I was apolitical all my life. I knew nothing about politics. I knew nothing, pretty much about anything. But I was very, you know, taken in by Bo Gritz. Alan, I just lost my train of thought. I went thinking out there so far that I lost my train of thought.

Alan: I think maybe it was to do with his appearance after 9/11. After coming off the shortwave radio, only about a month or two before, and there he was, pictured on the Congressional steps, he just happened to be there, and so did the camera crew. And he was asked, Mr Gritz, you know, as the most decorated Vietnam veteran, etc – the man who had done years on the shortwave, supposedly for Patriot broadcasting…

Jackie: The hero, yes.

Alan: And there he was, he was asked, who do you think probably blew up the towers. He says, it’s probably those paranoid black-helicopter-seeing militia types that listen to the shortwave radio. That’s your frontman. This is the guy who boasted when he left the army that he left it with hip-pocket orders.

Jackie: Hip-pocket orders. Well, I remember what I was going to say. You were talking about elections. And this is how naive I was, and how intense I was about what I was doing. When the election was over, this one guy said to me, we need to start planning for the next election, and Alan, I looked at him, and I meant this. I said, do you actually think that we’re going to have another election in this country? And he said, Jackie, they have elections in Russia. They had them in the Soviet Union. But, to me, at that time, it was, things were so intense that I thought, well, there will never be another election again. You know, because we’ve lost it. But the whole point is, there aren’t elections, because they’re all phony.

Alan: They’re all phony. It came out in Britain, that Tony Blair, and I’ve been waiting, because they always tell you who these guys are after, once they leave, but he’s not left yet. But they did declassify some information that said that he was recruited at university, Oxford, of course, by MI5 to go into Left Wing groups and spy on them. So, basically, MI5 put their own man in as prime minister. How’s that?

Jackie: Wow. Well, like the CIA probably puts their…

Alan: Well, look at Daddy Bush. He worked for the CIA for years. So, it’s such a farce to watch this, the shenanigans continue, and the public continue to support them as though they’re real people.

Jackie: Yeah. And another thing that makes me feel sad, is the people, and yet, I want to qualify this, the people who sincerely, because they know that Bush is a bad guy, and they are working very, very hard, hoping and praying that they’ll get him impeached, Alan. And I look at it now, and I say, they don’t even realize it, but they’ve become the opposition that’s necessary for this whole thing to continue. However, there’s another way that I have of looking at this, because I know my sincerity, Alan, when I first started out. I mean, geez, my whole thing was saving the Constitution, and Alan, that’s what I went through my life savings for, and then, I found out that our Constitution was a frame-up. Okay, but, look, just, you know, bear with me here. I started out that naive. And that much love with my country, with what the country stood for, even the flag, Alan. I was one of those flag-waving Americans, proud to be an American. And what I’m saying is, I look at it today, and oh, my God. But how, see, not to put these people down, I guess that’s what I’m saying, because they’re sincere, and we don’t realize when we’re doing all this stuff, that we’re just, we’re part of a plan. And Alan, I’ve wondered if you and I are part of a plan sometimes. In other words, I don’t know, maybe we are cutting through the matrix.

Alan: Oh, I know, that’s the thing. I mean eventually I’ll give them so much stuff to do with the occult explanations, and I’m telling you, they’re not buying it from the bookstores, the stuff I’ll be giving them, and really, it will open their eyes. It will open their eyes.

Jackie: Well, I’ve often wondered that. Alan: This is the time for it, you know.
Jackie: As controlled as this world is, if my being on the air and imparting all the information that I did. I mean, a lot of it was on a political vein. I mean, we covered everything. We covered the educational system and regional governance and States’ rights, and just everything, Alan. We covered the chemtrails. But maybe, what each person does that is sincere, maybe they’re exactly where they’re supposed to be at that particular time. And maybe that’s the opening for them, if you would. You know, like my first foray into this whole thing was campaigning for Bo Gritz for president. You see what I’m saying. And you know, I felt sorry for the people that were campaigning for Ross Perot, Alan. Because I knew he was a phony. Well, you know how I knew he was a phony? Because he was on mainstream media.

Alan: Exactly, exactly.

Jackie: However, I felt sorry for them. I felt compassionate. Because I knew that what they were doing they so believed in, and here I am campaigning for Bo Gritz. So, you know, one of the new people to our website and the radio broadcast had written, and he said that it looks like, you know, that there’s nothing that we can do, or should do, just let it unfold. Well, I said, I think that would be saying, okay, nobody says anything and they just steamroller. They’re steamrolling over us. But basically part of the conversation was fighting against it. And I said, maybe it has nothing to do with fighting against something. Maybe it is taking a stand for something, Alan.

Alan: Well, what I’m doing is telling them. I mean, the people will choose where they want to go, and they are, even if they want to be willingly blind. But they’re choosing where they want to go. And all I’m doing is telling them, and I have no doubt that many of them will like this World Socialism, which is only a transitory phase to the next type of human, which has been widely discussed in all the scientific papers and meetings.

Jackie: The Soviet Man.

Alan: The Soviet man, the real Soviet, the real genetically made one. Jackie: Yes, the Soviet Man.
Alan: And if they don’t want to hold on to this thing called individual sentience as an intelligent being. An individual sentience, a unique creature. If they want to give that up, then for them, so be it. But personally, I won’t, for me.

Jackie: But did you hear what I said though? Basically what he was talking about is somehow we have to have a plan to stop this. Do you see what I’m saying, Alan? I don’t see it being stopped. I see it being derailed. I think it’s been derailed down throughout the ages.

Alan: You can certainly slow this thing down and try to get a breathing space, while people catch up and really understand where they’re going. Where they’ve been going. And if they want to consent to it, as I say, you give your power to the Beast and on you go. But no one can ever say at the end of their life, if they were asked, did you know what was happening? Yeah. Did you do anything about it? No. That’s it. That’s the bottom line. What did you do with your life? That’s it. No one can say I didn’t know. And then ask some Creator, now let me go on from here. Why would you give anybody, anybody, that kind of gift and say there’s nothing here for anyone else? Boy, that’s a human thing, isn’t it? “I deserve it.”

Jackie: No, it isn’t. It’s Christian.

Alan: Whatever, whatever. And the New Age too are just the same.

Jackie: And I’m saying Christian in the sense that Christianity is today. It has nothing to do with the teachings of one that we have known as Jesus.

Alan: It never does. It’s dogma that comes after it that totally alters everything, and you end up with different classes of Christians. It’s so sad. You know. And divided and…

Jackie: Well, and besides that, what I’ve noticed so much is that there’s so much self righteousness. Alan: There always is.
Jackie: And judgmentalness. Alan: All religions have that.
Jackie: They seem to know who’s going to hell and who isn’t.

Alan: All religions have that. All religions, you know. I mean, I’ve heard the top people of different religious sects bombasting everybody else. And yet, they themselves are supposed to be, some of them think they’re godlike.

Jackie: Well, it’s every religion. I know what you mean, yeah. Alan: But that’s the pettiness of humanity.
Jackie: I had a friend at one time, we used to have conversations. He was, a, I would say, call it hellfire-and- brimstone Christian. He had even eyes that remind me of what “Saint Paul” would have looked like. Like, you know what I’m saying. Fire and just looking down on everybody. And he looked at me one time, because, you know, we had conversations. And he looked at me one time, and he says, isn’t it a shame honey that so many good people are going to go to hell. And I said, who, Bobby, like me? Because I don’t “believe” the way you believe. But it was said with such pride. And I said, you know what. He also told me that because he was a divorcee and he had a daughter, that God was no longer in that home. And I said, I don’t understand what you mean. He says, the man is the godhood. You know, that was by Paul, that said that. The man is the godhood of the home. I said, are you telling me you actually believe that because you’re not there that our heavenly father is not there? And I said, Bobby, if you really believe it, and I know you love your wife, I mean, loved her, and she is the mother of your daughter, and I know you love your daughter. He was saying it with this boastful, chest out, I’m going to heaven, they’re going to hell.

Alan: Well you know, Socrates said it thousands of years ago, when he was talking about the different sects they had in Greece at the time. He said, not content, he says, with making laws all about nature, meaning, how nature worked, he says, now they’re making laws about the afterlife and the world to come and the conditions to get there. Nothing has changed. Petty people always go the same way.

Jackie: Wow. Well, you know what, Alan? Alan: I’ve got to go.
Jackie: Oh, do you? Oh, no. Alan, it’s not even ten till yet.

Alan: Yeah, but I think it might have been between ten to and five to.

Jackie: It is not.

Alan: No, but what I mean, when the call will come here.

Jackie: Oh, I see. Well, if they get a busy signal, they’ll call you back, won’t they? Alan: Well, I don’t know.
Jackie: Oh, man.

Alan: But you could explain that, because there’s so much on that site. They’re getting all of it free.

Jackie: Yeah, well, I’ve got something that I was going to bring up anyway, and I’m going to bring it up. I mean, I made a couple notes while we were talking, and I will, of course, mention the site. But about how they use entertainment to get things in our head.

Alan: Yeah, predictive programming.

Jackie: And what’s happening right now, with the immigration thing. Well, they’ve had a movie about it, already, The Second American Civil War. Alan, thank you. Now, whoa, where are you going to be?

Alan: I think it’s called kevinsmith.com.

Jackie: It’s only on the internet. Okay, kevinsmith.com. And you’re going to be on at 10pm? Alan: Till 12.
Jackie: Oh, 10 to 12. Okay, alright, Alan. Alan: Okey-doke.
Jackie: Thanks for being here tonight. Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Okay, you hang up, and see what happens. Alan: Okay.
Jackie: Okay, bye. Alan: Bye now.
Jackie: Okay folks, I guess we’re okay. I wasn’t sure I was going to get a dial tone or not. Let me give you Alan’s website, for those of you who aren’t aware of it. I can’t imagine any of you aren’t. It’s Cutting Through the Matrix, cuttingthroughthematrix.com. And you might want to take a look. In the books, the three books that he’s written, Cutting Through, Cutting Through is what it is. He calls it the Matrix, I called it B.S., because it is. But you can actually read excerpts of his books. Any way that you can help and see by getting the books, you’re actually helping yourself too. It’s exactly what you’re doing.

What I wanted to mention. When he was talking about how they use entertainment, I had mentioned this to Alan before. I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it on the air or not. There was a movie put out, and I’m relating this to what’s happening today with the immigration thing, the, oh, my God, the insanity. The Latinos, the Mexicans, even Mexican

citizens, I mean, American citizen Mexicans, they’re having a big rally, they claim that they’re taking over America. America is a white and aging America. They’re not having babies. And that they’re taking over America. Now, I want to remind you that a few years ago, probably about four years ago, maybe five, USA Today. I have the newspaper here, a big headline, and it said, right on the front page, if you can’t speak Spanish, you may be left behind. Okay? What is happening today, just know this folks, it is so planned. It has been so planned for so long, and I know that Alan and I talked about this. When you think about the American Civil War, and it was a war of Northern aggression. It had nothing to do with slavery, and that is true. But what they did is they wound up with a standing army. A standing army for the first time in this country. And remember, excuse me. Oh, my God. We’re out of time. Well, grandfather is running slow. I’m going to have to fix him. We’ll be back with you next Wednesday night, folks. And it will be 10pm very shortly Eastern Time. And if you want to hear Alan, kevinsmith.com. And I’ll be back with you, as I said, probably with Alan, next Wednesday night. Okay, so I talked myself right through what I wanted to talk to you about, but, it’s alright I guess. We’ll see you next Wednesday night, folks.

 

April 26th, 2006 Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

 

 

Jackie Patru: Thank you for joining us again tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday, the 26th of April in the year 2006. And I’m glad you’re with us tonight, and I’m glad that Alan is with us tonight, also. Alan, thanks for being here tonight.

Alan Watt: It’s a pleasure. Jackie: So, what’s going on?
Alan: Oh, I’m just busy with all the emails that are coming in and getting stuff printed up for sending out. That’s really what takes the time, is making them up, and getting them all packaged.

Jackie: You’re talking about the books, taking them up to get them copied?

Alan: That’s right. I went in on Monday, yesterday, for another bunch. And I went into chapters and the same thing happened that happened before. I was first there to make sure when it opened. And she says, come back about twelvish. I came back at 1PM. And they hadn’t started it. She said both machines broke down when they tried to do the double-sided. And the people, of course, were coming and going with the single sheet copies, side copies, so, again it worked fine for the other ones, but not for me. So, I managed to go to another small printer, who did do them up in about an hour and a half.

Jackie: Then go to the small printer from now on. Alan: Yeah. So, that was quite something.

Jackie: Well, I’m glad to hear you’re getting orders for that book. That you were losing, you were losing faith. Or maybe, I don’t know, you know, like you said, well, people don’t like to read.

Alan: They don’t.

Jackie: There are certain, there’s a certain type of people, that I believe listen to the Sweet Liberty Broadcast. And of course, you’ve been on here, with us on and off, ever since 1998. And they’re different. I believe they’re different, or they wouldn’t be listening, Alan.

Alan: There will also be another group, I think, as well, that are new ones, newcomers, from the other shows, you know. And maybe that’s part of it too.

Jackie: It would be interesting if people when they wrote say where they heard you. And did they, we better make sure in fact. Maybe we could do that right now, is to let our listeners, well, I can do it. Folks, if you’re ordering Alan’s books, those are the three that he’s done, Cutting Through, 1, 2, and 3. And he cannot use a postal money order, a US postal money order. So, when you order the books, either send an international postal money order, and you can get them right at your post office. And I live in the boons, and I can get them from our little post office, so, I know that any post office you go into, just tell them you need an international postal money order.

Alan: That’s right. And I’ve got a bunch here that I have to send back, because they’re all just internal postal orders for the US. And it says it right on it, where they sign their name, valid only within the United States.

Jackie: Well, I know, but you know what, I’m not making excuses, but I don’t know if I’d read that. Because, if I went in and asked for a money order, I don’t know if I’d read that. So, that’s why I wanted to make it real, real clear. And I’m not doing this in a way that denigrates people. I just know that it’s so natural just to go in and get a postal money order. So, we have to make sure when we do talk about it, that people do understand that.

Alan: International. Yeah, they’ve got to be international. Jackie: Yes, it has to be international.
Alan: It’s the same. You buy it at the same price, as far as I know. And it speeds things up on my end. Rather than me send them all back, and waiting for them to come back again.

Jackie: Yes. Well, I’m glad to hear that people are ordering the book, Alan. It shows me that they want to find out for themselves. And they want to do further research.

Alan; Yeah, these books, as I say, they’re…

Jackie: Instead of being entertained by two people having a conversation.

Alan: That’s right. As I say, these books are written to just sort of try and wake the person up, as they’re reading them, because I realized that all the books with the usual format and the Illuminati and all this kind of stuff, because we’re trained in a certain way, they don’t remember it. It doesn’t have an impact on them. And so, I use a different technique of writing, where they almost participate. In other words, it makes them think as they’re reading. It makes them think as they’re reading.

Jackie: Well, in some of those photocopy pictures, drawings, and from the writings, from the old books, because those go back a long way. I had one of our listeners write me, and he says, oh, I just found out you’ve been hanging out with Alan Watt. He says, you were just blowing away his something. But he meant that, of course, in a positive way. Geez, I was going to, never mind. The reason I brought that up has slipped my mind.

Alan: What you’ll find, as I say, there’s so much stuff. People will ask me often, what other books can I read about. And so on. And what you’ll find on the major bookshelves, books are purposely put out here for a paper trail to be laid for you. And whatever is exposing Masonry generally comes from Masons themselves, or the high, the very high Masons. And it’s time to expose certain parts, because they don’t need the lower Freemasonry anymore. So, I tell people, don’t waste your money buying the oohs, and ahs, type books, that astound you with the ooh and ah.
These are put out there for your consumption, because the real stuff is held by the elite, although you can teach people, because you can discern between the lines, what they’re referring to, especially if you understand history.

Jackie: What, you know what, you’re right. Because I’ve re-read stuff that I’d read in the past. And so much jumps out at me Alan, that I would have never noticed before. And one of the things, in fact, I responded this too, maybe it was this gentleman. But, I didn’t know about the priesthood, and, of course, you certainly made us very aware of that right in those beginning twenty hours that we did, on the air. Folks, it wasn’t twenty hours in a row, but it was four nights a week for five weeks, an hour each time. And it was our primer course, wasn’t it, Alan?

Alan: Yeah, definitely.

Jackie: But the interesting thing is, so much of what I read, it mentions very casually, almost offhandedly the priesthood. But it’s always there.

Alan: It’s always there.

Jackie: It’s always there, and even though I’m re-reading stuff, I never noticed it before. Never noticed it before. Then, in the place where it is, it really does, it really does confirm what you had told us.

Alan: Yeah, the world has been under a controlled system a long time. And people think we’re just evolving with technology and this kind of thing. They don’t realize that outside the technology, it’s the same moneyed type system, the same work ethic for the people. In other words, that’s your function is to serve the system. And they don’t realize that it’s been manipulated down through the thousands of years, the same system, really. Commerce, money…

Jackie: And the priest-Sumer.

Alan: Yeah, priest-Sumer, definitely. Sumer, they didn’t invent this by themselves. In fact, they sprung up out of nowhere with this whole system right there. So, they learned it from a previous civilization, which they think are called the Harrapans, and the Harrapans, no doubt got it from an even older civilization. The Harrapans is the name the historians and the archaeologists are giving to the people who inhabited cities they’re digging up now, underneath all the old Sumerian trade routes. And these houses were very well built. They even had indoor running water and showers even. And we’re going 6,000-7,000 BC. So, this is an ancient, ancient commercial type system that’s come down through the ages. Money is the key to everything. The whole structure of what we think is normalcy is really a system which is held together by money. And it’s not a happenstance thing for simply a bunch of elite to control. It’s got a purpose and it’s got direction. And they’ve always known the purpose and direction.
And they literally plan centuries ahead at a time. And you know, the first inkling I got of that was when I read the Communist Manifesto and then watched the implementation in the Soviet System of a ten year plan for one particular area, twenty for another particular area, in the society, maybe fifty, and a hundred year plan for another. And then you find that the United Nations runs on the exact same principle. So, it’s like a huge investment business, really this world. And like any big corporation, they plan out the next hundred years of investments. And that’s really what they do. And so, the major events within your life, just like 9/11, were planned long before it actually happened. Long before, they published their own books on it, like Brzezinski, talking about the necessity of a Pearl Harbor type event to motivate the public, behind this war, so that they could invade Afghanistan first, then Iraq, then Iran, and then Syria. So, these guys plan it way ahead. Now, we know they all belong to these shady organizations, which the public have been conned into thinking are official government agencies, like the Council on Foreign Relations, but they’re not. They’re private institutions with an agenda, and they were created, that branch was created from the Cecil Rhodes branch of the Royal Institute for International Affairs in the late 1800s, in order to

bring about a global government with three united trading blocs. So, it’s exactly the same as the Communist Manifesto. That’s what you find.

Jackie: That would be the purpose of the Trilateral Commission.

Alan: It’s the three trading bloc areas of the world, and it’s also the merging of the three parts of the American continent. That’s also the other part of it.

Jackie: I thought about this. You know, when America was first growing, there were thirteen colonies. But think about this though. They were separate states. They were, you know, under the articles of confederation that, what did they call it, Continental Congress. It had no power whatsoever. And when they joined them all together in the United States, then it’s no different than the United Europe countries. I mean, that was the beginning of it. And you know, somebody mentioned this to me at one time, and I checked it out and found that it was so. If you look at a map, each country is a different color. Okay. Now if you look at the United States map, each state is a different color. It isn’t all one color, like America. And it pretty much confirms they’re aware that these were separate sovereign nations at one time.

Alan: What it really is, and I’ll tell you what really got me. I don’t know if you saw the movie, it’s called Gangs of New York.

Jackie: Oh, Gangs of New York. Somebody was telling me they just saw it.

Alan: It’s an interesting take on the gangs that ran the extortion rackets in New York City. Jackie: From way back.
Alan: In the 1800s. And how they competed with each other and fought with each other. But it also showed you the leader of one gang, who was in cahoots with the early politicians. And they would meet every so often. And once the politician says, you know, the public are getting restless with the crime, we’ll have to give them a sacrifice, who can you spare? So, the leader of the gangs thought of three older guys that he didn’t need anymore. He got them set up to be arrested, and they publicly hung them.

Jackie: So, they were actually giving us inside information with that.

Alan: Well, at the end of the movie was incredible, because, at the end of the movie, the two major gangs were squaring up for a battle to see who was going to take over the whole territory, the whole city. And it was at the time when the American Civil War was beginning. And just when they were squaring off for fighting, in come these cannon shells from the brand new American Navy that was created, and they started shelling them. And then the troops came in, organized military troops. And the message really was, it was never said, but the message was implicit in what you saw. The biggest gang of all has arrived. The Federal Gang.

Jackie: Yeah. Well, now, do you know what, maybe it was Jeff who saw it, but one of them, he said was, that they were actually rioting when they were going to initiate the draft. And the federal government came in and shot them down.

Alan: The biggest gang that had convinced the public. You see, extortion rackets run on threatening people and they’ll say to you, give me so much money and I’ll let you stay open another week. Well, the government trained the public that taxation is different, because it’s a different word, you see. That’s all; that’s the only difference there is.
And they train you that it’s somehow normal, and you pay them that money and they leave you alone until the next year. It’s the same racket.

Jackie: What does that have to do with initiating the draft, though? There was one segment where the people were actually opposing the initiating of the draft.

Alan: Oh yeah. Because they were well… A lot of people were well aware that this war had bigger, it’s actually like it’s 9/11 again. Had much bigger…

Jackie: Would that have been the first World War when they were going to institute the draft, were they going to do it then?

Alan: Well, yeah, but they did it in the American Civil War in the North. And so, this new federal government… Jackie: That’s why they were opposing it. They were drafting people, weren’t they?
Alan: They were. And all you had was a business takeover of all the Southern properties. It was a business. It was an economic war, like all wars are economic, ultimately.

Jackie: Did you think that was true, because, I mean, this was a movie, but do you think that that was true, that there was an opposition against it? And the federal government came in.

Alan: Oh, it’s recorded that there was a lot of opposition to this, absolutely.

Jackie: But, was it recorded that the federal government intervened and came in and shot at them?

Alan: Oh, yeah. The federal government were sent too, and also grabbed people who were enlisted and didn’t turn up. So, it was. You see, democracy is wonderful. There’s no choice in democracy. And there’s no complaints department, you notice. It’s one way or no way. And this is the system. But all it is, is one huge gang at the top.
And the federal government is just the biggest gang taking over and instituting by law. Jackie: The beginning, wasn’t it, Alan?
Alan: Yeah. The same con game as the little gangs had been playing for years. Jackie: Well, actually, big time, since the US Constitution.
Alan: Well, the con part is good. Because really, they’d had meetings in Europe with all these top leaders of different countries. They were so used to having wars that they used to toss coins to say, well, whose turn is it next time to start a war. Who’s going to win it? They’d all invest in the shipping and armaments and all the rest of it. And the elite would benefit. It didn’t matter who won or lost. They all won. And they had meetings. And then they realized that they couldn’t take the whole world over. The way it stood, no one trusted London, because they knew that they just went in to rape and pillage and loot for London’s sake. And I say London, because those were the guys who benefited, was the big elite who lived in London. And they couldn’t use France, because they had a similar story at one point. Spain too. They’re all too old countries. So, they had to create a knight in shining armor that would pretend to lead the world into a New World Order, a Novus Ordo Seclorum. It’s right on the seal there.
And they created the United States, as supposedly a champion for the world. And that’s their job. It was to bring the whole world under the one system, under a deception. And that’s exactly what it’s doing.

Jackie: And that the United States of America, was initially founded with this whole thing in mind. I read something somewhere at one time about, was it the chair, the seat of George Washington at the Constitutional Convention, that there was a sunrise on it, Masonic, and there was debate on whether it was depicting a sunrise or a sunset.

Alan: And Franklin at that very speech at the table with Washington, when they toasted him as the Grand Master of these United States, and that’s in Franklin’s own writings, he talked about the picture behind him, the portrait, also depicting a Masonic sunrise and the chair. So, this was well understood. These were all Freemasons with a job to do that the public would never understand until it was completed.

Jackie: Well, for our listeners, who may not have heard this, I have a book entitled an Economic Interpretation of the Constitution, and it was written by Beard. I think it was Charles Beard. And I do know that one of our listeners in Ohio, one who was a major supporter of the Sweet Liberty Broadcast, while we were on shortwave, had called me and said, how do I get it? And I found it for him on Abe Books. But Alan, when you read that book, the names of each of the fifty-five men there, what their background was, I mean, they were lawyers. They were land developers. Every single one of them.

Alan: And big land developers.

Jackie: There were only a couple or three there, that didn’t have at least apparently, huge sums of money. But they all, every single one of them benefited when that Constitution was ratified. And I’m the one, that thing that Noah Webster wrote, that I will defend the Constitution with my last breath. Alan, that was me. Well, you know that, don’t you?

Alan: Yeah. (Chuckle)

Jackie: Yeah, well, you think it’s funny. I guess it is. It’s kind of pathetic. Alan: Yeah, but that’s the conditioning everybody has got, you see.
Jackie: Oh, man.

Alan: You see, the password, even at the…

Jackie: I just wanted to finish this. The name of the book, again, folks, if you wanted to look for it, or even in your library, is the Economic Interpretation of the Constitution, and it is not pleasant to read. But for me, I want the truth, no matter how hurtful it is. And Beard is his last name. I think it was Charles Beard who wrote it.

Alan: And it was a setup from the beginning. They had to make it look real. We know from the various Masonic writings that have been published since then, that George Washington used to meet with other members of the British Army in their Lodges, during that war. And he even signed his name in their books, you know. So, it was a sort of put-on. Even Cornwallis, if you read the histories of Cornwallis, he led the party in Britain, initially to allow America to become a separate country. And the next thing you know, he’s given the very appointment to oppose them? This is a Masonic ritual you’re seeing there.

Jackie: Say that again.

Alan: Cornwallis actually stood up. He was a member of the House of Lords or Parliament. And he stood up, in his own memoirs, it’s recorded, and addressed the Parliament, and asked them to allow America to be a separate nation, but still done under the form of a Commonwealth, the British Commonwealth. In other words, it would follow the same laws, etc.

Jackie: And that was before the war. The war actually, the battle had ended, and that war wasn’t really ended formally.

Alan: No. What I’m saying is, this was before the war begun. Jackie: Oh, the revolution?
Alan: Yeah. So, he actually led the party to leave America alone. And yet, the crown appointed him as the guy to go and oppose America. You see, it wouldn’t make sense unless he was let in on the big secret, that this was a show for the world. I mean, Washington came out of that with I think twenty miles more of, square miles, or more of land. So, he was a busy guy, you know.

Jackie: At Natural Bridges National Park there was a big sign there, and the land was George Washington’s. Lots and lots of land, Alan.

Alan: Oh, massive. And what people forget too, is these landowners, they were big landowners. You see, these weren’t just little guys with a plot of land. And these guys had it all and their families before them had been given charters to own those lands by the British crown. Washington himself was trained in the American colonial army, the British Colonial Army. It was the British who trained him as an officer. And that’s when he was inducted into Freemasonry, was in the British, when he served the British as an officer. That’s in his own histories, you know. So, this was a setup from the beginning. Not only that, when you go into the passwords at the time for the French Illuminati, they would use a French word, which is also similar to a Greek word for spirit. The spirit in Greek is nous, it’s n-o-u-s. And so, in French nous, also means, translating it from the French to the English, and that was their password, was new, is US, “us”. So, I mean, come on, this is a setup from the beginning. And then they put an Egyptian obelisk there for apotheosis, to raise Washington to godhood. And no one asks, why is an Egyptian obelisk standing in a supposedly Christian country? (Chuckle)

Jackie: I’ll tell you why, because a lot of people don’t understand it. The Washington Monument, a lot of people don’t even, well, they know it’s an obelisk, but they don’t know what the Obelisk represents.

Alan: And it’s right over.

Jackie: It is ignorance. It isn’t stupidity. It is because we’re ignorant. You know, when I was first involved, back there in 1990, late ’91, and beginning to wake up. And anyway, one of our networkers from, we had the Council on Domestic Relations networking organization. He had been at the library. Now, this would have been probably around ’93 maybe. And he called me up. Well, he spent almost a year at the library researching, and just blowing him away, blowing the librarians away, and then he sent me huge manila envelopes full of stuff he was pulling up. And he called one evening. And he started talking about the Freemasons. Do you know how many Supreme Court Justices are Freemasons?

Alan: Oh, I know.

Jackie: But he went on and on. And I said, Paul, I hear what you’re saying. But, listen to this, Alan. I said, what’s the significance of all this? In the whole scheme of things.

Alan: Yeah. (Laughter)

Jackie: I’m talking naivety. I’m talking lack of knowledge. That’s what I said to him.

Alan: Well, you always find the big obelisks are towering over a stretch of water, generally a rectangular. Jackie: The reflecting pool.
Alan: And the reflecting pool. Because, what you’re seeing, the obelisk is the male phallus, which is also fire, over the water. It’s over the female. That’s what it signifies. That the water is female in the Kabbala, you see, which these guys all studied. And so, female is like, and Albert Pike said, it can only reflect the godhood or the light of their husbands. Because, as the moon can only reflect the sun’s light. Then what you’re seeing with the obelisk and the water is the female can only reflect the glory of the spirit of Washington. It’s quite something, yeah.

Jackie: I see. We’re going to take a break in 60 seconds. I heard the tone. And that reminds me. You know, that comes right out of the Old Testament, the New Testament with Paul, where he said that the husband is the godhood of the family. I told you about my “friend” who bragged that God was no longer present with his former wife and daughter, because he was gone. He didn’t say it. Maybe he believed it. But if he believed it, he was gloating.
Folks, we’ll be right back after this. We’re ready to take a break. So just stay with us. This is nice, I can hear the

music, and I heard the tone. So, we’ll be right back with you folks.

(Commercial Break)

Jackie: You know, Alan, if you had, you’ve said it many times I think you said it tonight, maybe not, but, they gave us all our heroes. And I was thinking about, well, when I heard the commercial for DVD for The War of Northern Aggression. I thought back about, of course, what we were taught in history. And Abraham Lincoln was my hero.
And I remember in the fourth grade. I mean, I was so impressed. And I, not because it was a required thing, I memorized the Gettysburg Address. That’s how much of a hero Abraham Lincoln was to me. And I wanted to, for any new listeners that we might have, talking about the Constitution, and it is true that to me, it was everything. In fact, well, it was everything. I mean as far as our “freedom and liberty”, that’s one of the reasons, Alan, that I can so relate to listeners, to especially new listeners. And it isn’t that I’m not an intelligent person. But I was so absorbed and believed, so trusting, in everything that we were ever taught. And so, I looked back at myself, and how naive I was, and that’s why, I know it’s a tough pill for people to swallow, when the truth begins to come, and it’s very overwhelming. But after you settle into it, then there’s a feeling of gratefulness, of not anger, because, I had my anger too. Not at you all the time, but sometimes. But anger, at all the lies we’ve been told. And then I stopped to think about it, and then I thought, instead of being angry, be grateful, that you’re finally wading through, and all of these lies are being dispelled. And one more thing I wanted to say. I made a note of it, talking about the Constitution, talking about the “Revolutionary War”.

It was Ralph Boryszewski’s book, The Constitution That Never Was, Alan. When I got that book, somebody sent it to me. I wouldn’t even read it. I looked at the book, and I said, this is just another book trashing our Constitution. And, of course, now I know, and I have quoted especially the part in there, where he tells about, you know, after the Constitution was framed, and we were framed, it took a couple of years before it was totally ratified. And one of the things that Ralph pointed out is that the judicial section of the Constitution was never completed. And they completed it with the first act that was passed by the Congress. And when they did that, Alan, they did it in secret, and what they were doing was inviting the states to send in their suggestions. That’s when the first ten articles of Amendment were added into it. So, everybody’s eyes were on that ball, while they were writing a bill that was huge. I mean more text in it than the whole Constitution. And it was passed, and our hero, George Washington signed it. And that’s how they did it, by keeping people’s eyes off the ball, having them submit their suggestions for Amendments to it, before they were going to ratify it.

Alan: Well, what they love to do, even today, is to pretend that they listen to the people. And, because that’s the whole con that it’s based on, is that they pretend to listen to us. And then, of course, we scratch our heads when they go off on some weird tangent. This happens over and over and over again. But when you realize, see, you don’t get into politics by being a nice person. You get into politics by joining Freemasonry to start with, and then you’re taught to go and join boards, voluntary boards, in you area. And these boards always have a guy on top, who’s always been there, and he’s a selector. His job is to select those amongst them who could be used to go up the ladder in politics. And when you get invited out by the guy at the top of the board to the golf course, then you know you’re on a winning ticket. And that’s how the whole thing works. I’ve seen it myself. And so, those who go into politics, they’ll do anything, and I mean anything. They’ll join anything, as well, to get up there. They have psychopathic personalities to begin with. Only a psychopath cannot blush in front of thousands of people when they’re accused of some of the things they’re accused of. So, they live on pure ego, and they simply want to get to the top. They have no conscience over what they do. And so, in this system, it’s really a psychopathic winner type system, which you can see. Any time you tune into some so-called reality show, the Donald Trump show, you watch these young executives all stab each other, trying to get above and get to lick the master’s boots there. And it’s the one who’s the most cunning and ruthless and very clever about it, who gets the approval and gets to go golfing with Donald Trump. That says it all. That is what our system is based on. It’s a piranha-like psychopathic system. And that’s the type that go into politics. They’ll do anything, anything they’re told to get up there. And that’s why they can lie so readily to the public. And they must join some form of Masonry, if they’re not already born into it. They must join it.

Jackie: Well, you know what? That was something evidently I knew inherently, because my motto was, I’m not

interested in politics. Leave that to the politicians. And I told you that my uncle, Garland, was a state senator in Michigan for twenty-six years. He came home from WWII missing a leg. And they talked him into running, I guess, probably on sympathy. But Uncle Gar got in, and what I was told, he was head of the appropriations committee. A very powerful position. But when they wanted to run him for US Congress, well, first of all, let me go back. He found out that I didn’t vote. And he just went nuts. He said, it’s your duty, it’s your responsibility. I said, Uncle Gar, I don’t know which butthead to vote for. I mean, they’re all crooked. And of course, he was a senator. And I might be being naive here, Alan. I don’t think I am. Because my Uncle Gar and Aunt Jode, lived in a very, just a regular little house. You know, with three bedrooms, a living room, and a kitchen, not a dining room or anything. I remember one time when they wanted to award him a gold watch at some banquet. And he said, thank you, but I can’t take it, because he didn’t want to make it look like he’s getting bribes. And when they wanted to run him for Congress, and they said he’d be a shoe-in, because he was very popular. Well, he was re-elected for twenty-six years. And he told me he wouldn’t do it. And I asked him why. He said, I’m not going out there. He said, hell, he said they come up and give you tips on what stocks to buy.

Alan: Yeah, that’s right.

Jackie: What stocks to purchase. And he said, and then they get you in their clutches. And so, I think there might have been one honest politician. And never ever, I mean, they never had like a cottage somewhere, or anything. I mean, they just lived like normal people. So, I think my Uncle Gar was honest.

Alan: Well, the thing is though, people who swear oaths to something they don’t even understand because it’s a secret, tells you what people will…

Jackie: Uncle Gar wasn’t a Freemason. No, no.

Alan: Well, because, if he was a Freemason he would have taken all the little bribes and investments, because the workman is worthy of his wages, as they say. It’s a payoff system all the way up. It’s a favor. They showed you that in the Godfather. The Mafia is a branch of Freemasonry. It’s a branch of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.
And Albert Pike trained Giuseppe Mazzini, which is Joseph Mason in Italian, who took over the World Lodge basically at the time, and he went over to Italy to create the Revolution in Italy. And he founded on one side, Mazzini founded the World Revolutionary Party. His successor was Lenin, and they called it the World Communist Party.
Then they changed the name. But Mazzini also authorized the creation of the Mafia. And the Mafia is a Masonic Lodge. Every side that seems to be fighting each other is actually part of the same head.

Jackie: Even the Jesuits. Alan: Yes.
Jackie: You know, we were talking about Tupper Saucy’s book. And when you read it, he made, I mean, I didn’t go out and resource and check out his footnotes and his bibliography and that. But the way he made it out, it would lead a person to believe that the Jesuits were responsible for all kinds of terrible things. Another thing that happened, and yet once you get it, you realize that it doesn’t matter which one of them it is, they’re all controlled at the top by a higher and hidden hand.

Alan: All of them. And I’m telling you another thing as well, for those who are into the New Age, you’ll find that your gurus are also sworn members of the same lodges, the higher lodges. Now, Aleister Crowley, who was sent out by the British Secret Service, to do what he did, to set up cults, etc, that’s who’s at the head. Where would you go, amongst the secret societies except the top? The Secret Service of Britain created the secret societies that you end up joining at the bottom. And Aleister Crowley went through all the different rites of the English Rite, the Scottish Rite and so on. And when he went over to South America to take some of the drugs, the peyote with the native tribe in South America. He said in his own book that he was initiated into the higher degrees of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, from a shaman in South America. They’re all part of the same thing. And guess who was pushing that in one of his books. It rhymes with Pike. He went over to try to do the same thing. So here’s the same con

game by the same people from the same country doing the same con. Jackie: Is there a reason….
Alan: Well, I like to rhyme things, yeah.

Jackie: I know, but some people might not know what you’re talking about.

Alan: Oh, they’ll figure it out. They’ll figure it out. Well, that’s in one of his books, how he went over there too supposedly. The same road as Crowley took, but what he doesn’t mention is that the shaman is also a Mason. When the British came into Canada, you’ll see this in some Masonic books. They have the picture of Joseph Brant. Joseph Brant is a name they gave to an Indian Chief over the Five Nations in Ontario. And they brought him over to Britain, and they gave him an English wife, a Masonic daughter, you see. Get the gene pool going again in family lineages. And Joseph Brant came back to Canada.

Jackie: He was an Indian?

Alan: He was an Indian, full-blooded Indian chief. And he sent half of the tribes to fight for the American side in the Revolution, and he used the other half to fight against them. There’s your typical what they do all the time.

Jackie: Alan, why do we call them Indians?

Alan: Oh, well, we know the con game with the…. Jackie: Well, what I remember reading was that…
Alan: Yeah, somebody lost his way in a boat. (Laughter)

Jackie: The Indies and so they called the natives here Indians. I’m not talking PC, politically correct, but isn’t more apt, appropriate, to really call them Native Americans?

Alan: Or just natives, because let’s be honest, when the big boys gave us countries, they gave us borders. Jackie: The name, the politically correct name.
Alan: Yeah. And all down through the centuries, they make the borders, they draw lines in the sand, and then they tax the people within to be on guard against those guys across that line there who are now your enemy. And this is how they’ve played this game all down through the centuries. Now, Washington, you’ll see in his main Masonic portrait there. He’s got a few of them. But you’ll see the beehive in the lower right hand corner. I’ve got it in my first book. And now, he mentions the Illuminati. That’s recorded in history. And he tries to make out that he knows that they’re there, but he doesn’t go any further. Of course he knew, because he was a member of it, because that beehive, that beehive was the symbol of the Beenan Orden, the German Branch of the Illuminati. That’s what they called themselves.

Jackie: That’s what the beehive was all about? Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And worker bees and all that? Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: I have allegedly from one of the museums the letter that George Washington wrote to his Brother Mason,

expressing to one of them, expressing his concern about the infiltration of Freemasonry here… Alan: Of Illuminism, yeah.
Jackie: By the Illuminati.

Alan: Yeah, I know. What a joke. And of course, we also know that Jefferson was one himself. In fact, that’s why he didn’t get in the first time, is because it was known that he was a member of it, after being initiated into France. But Benjamin Franklin was too. Because when Franklin was over as ambassador to France, during the Revolutionary War, and living like a king, you should see the stuff that he went through in a week. Even the booze, it was quite something. Franklin himself became the Grand Master of the Grand Orient Lodge of France. He was the top guy. And he initiated Voltaire into it.

Jackie: And especially reading the protocols, and they always take credit that every revolution that has ever been thought was promulgated by them.

Alan: No, they don’t at all. That protocols is not who you think it is. Jackie: I don’t care who it was.
Alan: It’s not who you think it is, because that was circulated in France in the 1800s. Jackie: Okay. I don’t care who it was. Whoever wrote it.
Alan: They knew the agenda.

Jackie: They took credit for every revolution that had ever been fought.

Alan: Well, yeah, but even modern Masonry books do that too. The brand new ones that are put out by Masonry, they do take credit for all the revolutionary wars.

Jackie: You know, the hidden hand we’ll call it, I guess. The point is, that was the first time that the thought came into my mind, well, what about the American Revolution. That was our War of Independence. And then I thought, well, why would we think that that was different than any of the others. So, I finally got to it, because it kept gnawing at me. And I went and did, I got done with that chapter, and I just sat there, Alan. And I just felt totally drained, totally exhausted emotionally, mentally, to find out everything I found out when I went looking. It was really, in fact, I think I said that, of all, of everything that I’ve learned so far, this has been about the toughest pill for me to swallow. Our War of Independence.

Alan: Well, it certainly made people dependent. That part is true. It’s made them dependent, so I guess that part is true. Yeah. But we live in an eternal ongoing con game. Just like the nonsense we’re going through right now, with the 9/11 deal. In the late 90s, Britain tried to pass in the House of Lords, they put a bill through to pass a mandatory identification card. Nothing was happening at the time. The Soviet Union was supposedly over, the Cold War was gone, and everybody was scratching their head as to why this was happening. The guy, the attorney general for Canada was Allan Rock, who’s now the UN Ambassador for Canada. He himself put through an omnibus crime bill, which is identical to the Patriot Bill. He put it through in ’98. He knew this was coming up.

Jackie: Wow. Well, they had to do something to get it through, though.

Alan: Yeah, they knew it was coming up. They were getting all ready for it then. And that’s how things are really run. It’s not the guy in the front, the President or Prime Minister. In Masonry, he’s never the boss. You never put your boss as the guy who takes the heat, you see. That’s the job of a prime minister or president. They take the heat for the show. But it’s the guy, number two is always the boss.

Jackie: Now, it’s like this move to impeach Bush.

Alan: I love this fruit talk. I love the talk about fruit. You im-peach them, and you can have a court of appeal, which is an apple, you know. So, it’s quite funny all this Masonic chatter that they give to the public, right in our faces, and we don’t catch on to it.

Jackie: Well, the thing I see is that so many of the people who are involved in this don’t realize that first of all, he really wasn’t president anyway, not by votes. But every president that we’ve ever had was given to us on a silver platter, and even the choices we had for president. Because they gave us, they let us actually think we had choices. And then by getting rid of Bush that it’s going to make some difference in the whole scheme of things.

Alan: Yeah, even though Kerry has already said that if he had gotten in, this same format and agenda in the Middle East would continue just the same. Actually, he said he’d step it up.

Jackie: Oh, yeah. He would fight it differently.

Alan: Because it’s all on the books. It’s a Masonic must-be, they call it in Masonry. It’s a must-be. When they make their plans they don’t fall back on them. And it doesn’t matter which group, which color. See this is a color coding Masonic thing we’re looking at here. The Conservatives are always Blue for the Blue Lodge. In every country, it’s the same thing. They call them Tories in Britain. Their opposition is Labour in Britain, and they are Red. You see, that’s the Red Lodge. And then, of course, you have the Green Party, which is the Green, the primal color in between. That’s the one set over to take over the world into the new era. That’s what the Green Party is about.
And of course, we know that Gorbachev, when he was brought over to England by Maggie Thatcher, and given the grand tour, he was knighted into the Knights of Lazarus, which is the Templar Cross, but it’s a Green Cross. And that’s the one he flies outside the Presidio.

Jackie: Yeah, what’s the name of his organization? Green Cross?

Alan: Oh, he actually has one about some global chatter. It’s one of many groups really. In fact, they run many groups. And they’re funded again by the Rockefellers and the Ford and Carnegie Foundations.

Jackie: In the Presidio?

Alan: And you know, he was given that, that was actually passed and licensed for him to run that place before he left as Premier of the Soviet Union. Who’s kidding who here?

Jackie: Before he left he made it well known that Communism is not dead, it just has another name.

Alan: What he said in fact, and there’s a great write-up in the Toronto Sun at the time about it, by the foreign correspondent. And he did give the whole speech and he said, he says, don’t believe it when you hear that it’s dead. He said, we’re simply moving into the next phase, and that ties right in with what they found at the Reece Commission, that their job, the big foundations’ job in America, was to blend America into the Soviet system into a seamless web. And that’s what we’re seeing is a new system with a Fascist elite leadership at the top, with a Communistic-style bureaucracy running the people below. That is the Third Way.

Jackie: Yes. There’s another book I want to recommend to our listeners. And it’s the one entitled Cogs in the Wheel by Mikhail Heller. It just tells all about. He tells all about this in this book, Alan. And I think it would probably have to be gotten through Abe books or one of the used book stores. And there was one more thing. The movie, I got into this last Wednesday when you had to leave early. But I talked to myself too long and wasn’t able to say it.
Remember when you were saying how they entertain us, and they tell us what they’re doing through entertainment. And the one thing I was referring to was what’s happening today with, you know, this Mexican thing, and there was a movie that we watched. It probably is available at the video stores. I think we watched it on HBO, and it was titled

The Second American Civil War. And this whole thing, and it was billed as a comedy. The whole thing was about immigration. And how the governor of Oklahoma I think said no, we’re not taking them. And then they started to choose up sides. The governor of Washington State took sides with Oklahoma. He was a Chinese man. And then I think, I found out later that the governor of Washington then was actually a Chinese person. I might be wrong here. But folks, it’s called The Second American Civil War. And it’s exactly what Alan was telling us. They billed it as a comedy. I cried in that movie, Alan. Because I saw what was happening. And I realized that there would be people who watched that movie, and if this happens in this country, they’re going to go, God, that’s just like that funny movie we saw, remember that one.

Alan: It’s predictive programming.

Jackie: Yes. Predictive programming. We’re out of our hour. Alan, thank you for being here with us tonight. Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Get a good night’s sleep. Alan: I will.
Jackie: And folks, Darren will be back with you on Monday and Tuesday. Alan and I will be back with you next Wednesday, barring any unforeseen events. Thank you for being here, and good night. Good night, Alan.

Alan: Good night.

 

 

August 30th, 2006 Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

 

 

 

Jackie Patru: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is Wednesday, of course, as it is whenever I am here filling in for Darren Weeks, who’s the actual host of the Sweet Liberty broadcast now. And today is the 30th of August, in the year 2005 (actually 2006). I’m walking around looking for a pencil. Excuse me if I seem a little distracted. Okay, I have my pen. And I want to say thank you again for joining us tonight. I’ll start with our spiritual message here. And then we’ll bring up our guest, Alan Watt, who’s with us this evening, once again. This is from a Course in Miracles from the text on pg. 168. “Nothing beyond yourself can make you fearful or loving, because nothing is beyond you. Nothing beyond yourself can make you fearful or loving, because nothing is beyond you.” And Alan Watt, thank you for being with us this evening.

Alan Watt: It’s a pleasure, yeah. Jackie: Yes.
Alan: Yeah, you just gave me a picture of myself in the mirror in the morning. Jackie: (Laughter) And that makes you fearful?
Alan: Oh, it’s what I see. I forget it’s me until I see. Who is that? Yeah.

Jackie: Have you ever gone up to a mirror and got real close and looked into your eyes. Alan: I don’t think so.

Jackie: I did it one time. And I don’t know what made me do it, but I was there standing at the sink, and I leaned on the sink, and I got real, real close, and I was looking into my eyes, and Alan, it was a very weird feeling. And I said, who are you that I’m looking at. Who are you? Try it sometime.

Alan: It’s similar if you’re praying. If you look at a mirror, you’ll notice that you’re talking to yourself. Jackie: Ah.
Alan: (Chuckle)

Jackie: Well, you know what? That’s not so far fetched, is it?

Alan: Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, everybody who does it is actually doing that too. Jackie: Everybody who prays.
Alan: Yeah.

Jackie: Yes. That’s what I said. That isn’t so farfetched. Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: Given that we, the Kingdom of Heaven is within us. The Kingdom of God is within us. We are one with our Creator. And that makes sense, what you just said.

Alan: Yeah.

Jackie: Is that how you meant it.

Alan: Yeah, I always give two or three meanings in a sentence. Jackie: Well, give, okay, give us all three meanings, would you please. Alan: Oh, no.
Jackie: Why, Alan? Why would you say that? Alan: I’ll keep that for another show.
Jackie: No, no. No, no. Why would you?

Alan: Well, if the kingdom is in you, so is the Kingdom of Hell, you know. Jackie: Well, what is Hell?
Alan: And that’s, in other words, it’s a decision what kind of life you’re going to make it for other people. Jackie: Sure.
Alan: And people never, ever look at that point of it. They have the ability to create Heaven or Hell, right here. You know. And generally even the ones that think they’re creating a heaven, because of the mass man of today, they’re creating an actual hell.

Jackie: Well, yes. In other words, the more attached we become to the physical and the material world, the more hellish it becomes, because the further we are in consciousness from our Creator.

Alan: Yeah. It’s also an inevitability in this system, that we’ve chosen, that’s been chosen for us, that we go along with a path, it can only lead to where it’s going. It can’t go anywhere else. Because, I mean, before the Industrial Revolution, even though people were mainly serfs and conquered, etc, there was still the remnants of tribal life, at least for the people. They had histories, oral traditions. They had community. They didn’t have technology. With technology or the Industrial Revolution came the era of mass man, the mass man. They stopped talking about individuals and talked about the masses. And today we’re on that path of being part of the masses, where bureaucracies are running our whole lives for us. And it’s getting worse.

Jackie: When you talk about that, the people, then, before the pre-industrial, there were the elite, there were the filthy rich.

Alan: Oh, yeah.

Jackie: And the more well off. And then there were the people who were not just surviving, but living. I think about, what I pictured in my mind when you said that, are people, as you said, who lived maybe in small villages, and they had their ups and downs. They weren’t wealthy. They didn’t have, you know, huge homes and all of that. But they had each other and they had family. It meant something to them.

Alan: Yeah. And they did have a rich culture, you know. A rich culture with all its traditions, its folklore, its histories. It was all oral tradition, and it was all passed on. Today we are part of the mass market, you might say. And we’re looked upon by the managers as being the masses. So, we’re not individuals any more. They don’t care about little you or little me with our dreams and hopes and aspirations. We’re just so-and-so who got As or A-plusses all through their school. It’s what they can do with you. How much they can tax from you. How they can use you. And hopefully you’ll die off before you can collect your pension. That’s how they see you. And they format it like that too; as coldly as that. You’re not a person anymore. You’re a psychological creature with instincts and drives, etc, etc, etc.

Jackie: For our listeners who may be new to the broadcast, and haven’t heard this or read it, on our website at sweetliberty.org in the children’s section, there’s an article that says, it’s titled “Are Your Children Human Capital? To confirm to the nth degree what you just said, what we are to them. And Human Capital is extremely valuable to them. The woman who wrote the article, Cindy Weatherly, was looking up the word assessment, you know, for assessment tests, and she couldn’t find any, any definition in all of her educational material, so she went to the dictionary, and assessment means to assess somebody for their future value.

Alan: That’s right. In fact, that all came out with Karl Marx and the gang around him. It wasn’t just Karl Marx. He was a front man for a coterie, for a whole bunch of people. And they talked about every man will get rewarded according to his means. So, in other words, even then they categorized you as to your class. Communism was actually a class, very class conscious. In fact, it was a scientific definition you might say for the first time of creating a new type of class structure, different from the old class structure, and codifying it into law with intelligentsia and scientific and all the workers beneath them. And, so you were to get rewarded according to your means. In other words, if you belonged to a certain class, they would decide how much you should get paid, how much you would need, you see.

Jackie: How much you would need.

Alan: Uh, huh. According to their assessment.

Jackie: But you would be paid according to your class, according to, right, their assessment of your needs. So, in other words, if somebody else was in a position similar to yours, but they were in a higher class, their pay would have been higher.

Alan: Yes. Jackie: Uh, huh.
Alan: And when you really see that Communism was given by the same banking boys that already controlled the capitalism, they were actually making it a more efficient system for themselves by making this a true system under a science, a supposed science, where they could officially stamp you in a class structure. That’s what it was, yeah.
So, you’d have to go so far back before money even came across the seas, etc, and throughout Europe, to get a true idea of what real life was, because we don’t know what it was anymore. We don’t know how people lived naturally at one time. We just don’t know any more. We know some things before the Normans came through. The Normans brought the moneyed system and the religious system that backed it. They brought it into Europe, and usury and all the rest of it, the debt system. And even though they brought it in, in the 11th century, into Britain, it had already been known for thousands of years.

Jackie: What did they have before that, Alan? Alan: Well, the people generally bartered.
Jackie: Okay.

Alan: And the tribes themselves, they grew their own stuff, and they had their own cattle, etc. So, that was a real communism. That was communal living.

Jackie: True, true communal living.

Alan: It wasn’t Marxist, it wasn’t Leninist, or any of these -ists that came along eventually. It was survival for the whole tribe. And no one went hungry. And they didn’t, like the Eskimos, they didn’t put the elderly out on an ice float to die, you know.

Jackie: Oh, they didn’t put you out on an ice float to die.

Alan: Yeah. But everybody, because the older people were respected for their wisdom. Today in this valued system, this scientifically created valued system, when your production ends, you become just a consumer. And I’ve talked about before the United Nations has already classified a good citizen of the world to be a producer- consumer. So, when you just become a consumer, you don’t, you’re a second-class citizen. You’re ready for the scrap heap.

Jackie: Yes, we have talked about this before. And I want to mention this to our listeners, who’ve heard this. You have mentioned this before, that it seems to be, generally, that a person, many person have to hear something six, seven, eight times before it suddenly gels with them.

Alan: Eight times. They’ve done studies, yeah. Jackie: Eight times.
Alan: That’s taught in mass marketing, apparently now, in university. They know all of this stuff. So, that’s just the truth of it. As we race along in this agenda, and it is a plan. It’s not just evolving haphazardly. It’s always laid out in advance. They know where they’re taking us, and they’ve given us enough authors to verify it, from their own group, that is. They said they would take us to a time when the changes would be so quick, scientific changes and so on, which also create cultural changes, that the people themselves will say, “Stop. We’ve had enough. We can’t keep up with the changes.”

Jackie: Really?

Alan: Yeah. H.G. Wells wrote about it.

Jackie: What’s going to happen when they say, stop, we can’t keep up with the changes? Alan: Well, then he went off on his own little spin.
Jackie: Yeah, what is the plan?

Alan: Yeah, well, his little spin that they would go off to the stars, basically, the crème-de-la crème, and you’d have to go into his non-fiction books of H.G. Wells, his non-fiction books to realize that they would simply do away with the ones who were useless. And, if you go into Hinduism, which is what’s taught today, and has been for donkey’s years, under the term, the New Age, which was a Masonic creation, but it’s basic Hinduism, when you go from one age to the next age, it’s interesting to note that those who are unable to make the leap, must not be allowed
through.

Jackie: Through what?

Alan: Through life, into the next age. Yeah.

Jackie: You mean if there’s any, any individual that speaks out and doesn’t, and isn’t. Alan: Conforming.
Jackie: Okay, conforming. Okay. And not predictable.

Alan: That’s basic Theosophy, which is Hinduism. And that’s what, again, is taught in the meditation classes at the United Nations, at the mediation room, that Rockefeller goes to.

Jackie: What. This is taught? Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: Would you. Okay. You say that it’s taught. Are they actually saying this in words or is it in code that they’re saying it, Alan?

Alan: I would say to you, I would say to you the way they say it. Jackie: Okay, do.
Alan: Life is like waves. Generations are like waves. And as they go towards the new, or the center, as you might say, from the outside back to the center, then eventually those that were the old waves fail to reach it, and to be new, they cannot be allowed across. That’s the sort of way they would couch it. I’m actually being a bit more forward than they would. But their higher initiates eventually get the message. Because, see, Hinduism itself is based on evolution. That’s where Darwin’s theory came from. He was preaching the Masonic doctrine, which had always been taught in the Mystery Schools, of evolution.

Jackie: Are you saying evolution of the hu-man? Or all the stuff?

Alan: All the stuff about the slime to the water creature to the land, its pure Hinduism. Jackie: Gotcha.
Alan: Yeah, pure Hinduism.

Jackie: Because, there is a form of evolution, evidently or something Alan, when you look at the change, let’s say the animals, let’s say way back when the horses were really tiny little things, and today the horses are big. I know there’s those little midget horses or whatever, but you know the mountain lions were probably four times as big as the ones today.

Alan: Yeah. But they’re different species. You see, there were many, many species of creatures, including horses, all different sizes. It isn’t that the small ones got big. It’s that the small ones died off.

Jackie: Okay, in other words, in the history that is given us, they, I don’t recall them ever showing bones or telling about horses that were really tiny and horses that were the same size today. What I recall is them using like a graph and showing.

Alan: And that’s the big lie of evolution. They have nothing to back it with, to be honest. And even Darwin was challenged on that.

Jackie: So, in other words, that was lies by omission. They never showed that there were different species of horses.

Alan: It’s only fairly recently that they’ve started to admit, well, there was different kinds. There was ape-men, etc. They said there was different types of humans and apes and chimpanzees and monkeys all living at the same time, and the other species died off. That’s what they’re now teaching over the last, oh, quite a few years.

Jackie: Do you, let me ask you this, here, at least your thoughts on it, where they talk about the missing link. Alan: Oh, yeah.
Jackie: Okay, now, they’re not, this missing link isn’t between ape and man, but it’s between a form of mankind and another that was more erect and had voice and etc, and that they were living here at the same time. Is that true?

Alan: Yeah. That’s what they’re starting to admit now, because, the more they uncover, they’re finding the skeletons that are just the same as ours, at the same time period as they had the ones that they were claiming. And remember most of the stuff they told us before with Piltdown Man, etc, that was taught as law in schools was all a fraud. It’s all exposed now. They used a pig’s jaw and stuck it on a gorilla’s head. And that was taught as fact. And people got degrees based on thesis, etc, on that nonsense. So, they’ve been liars from the beginning, because there’s a Masonic doctrine behind this, which they must stick to.

Jackie: You know the question then that just blasts into my mind. Where did all these different species come from, Alan?

Alan: Yeah, well that’s not so much, where did they come from, where’s it going?

Jackie: No, to me, it’s where did it come from. If there were several species of man, and there are different colors of man, different nationalities if you would of man, where did they all come from? You know, that’s never been explained to me, not in anything I’ve ever read.

Alan: No, because they can’t.

Jackie: Well, what is your, what are your? Alan: Well, at least they won’t.
Jackie: Well, what are your thoughts on it, Alan?

Alan: That’s hours and hours and hours of stuff. You often ask me a question and I can’t give you a drive through answer.

Jackie: A drive through answer. Alan: Yeah. It would take so much.
Jackie: Do you know how many times I’ve asked this question to you on air?

Alan: I know, but to give a proper answer, you’d have to give a whole talk on, more than one talk, in fact, a lot of talks. And that’s what I’m going to do on the next series of discs I put out, because it’s too much to just.

Jackie: But nobody’s there to question you.

Alan: It doesn’t matter. The thing is, you’re asking a question which I would be failing people if I gave them a drive through answer. You have to educate people up to a state before they can understand what you’re about to say, on certain things.

Jackie: Alan, you’re talking to a listening audience, many of them that have been listening to you for eight years, minus two.

Alan: Yeah, but you’re asking a question, Jackie, that I’d have to go into whole different areas, of archeology, anatomy, a whole bunch of things, and what’s been discovered, the debates they’ve had over the last three centuries and so on, and so on, and so on. It’s not a snappy answer, because, if I did, I might mislead people. I mean, that’s a profound question, where did we come from?

Jackie: Well, you do recall me asking this, don’t you?

Alan: I know, but the thing is, it’s too snappy an answer to do justice to the people. Jackie: I know, but this isn’t a new question in my mind.
Alan: Yeah.

Jackie: And it isn’t a new question I posed.

Alan: But the main thing is, what we are doing is looking at where we are going, because we know where we’re going.

Jackie: Maybe if we knew where the hell we came from, we’d understand better where we’re going? Alan: Um. Whatever.
Jackie: Okay.

Alan: Whatever. But, the fact is, as I say, in the religion, under many different guises, you can go back to India, you’ll find that they talk about ages, just time spans, so that people could understand what time spans they’re talking about. They call them ages. So, they sort them into categories of time. And they talk about the stages of man and the types of man that they go through. Now, we also find that in the Greeks, who talk about the different ages of man and stages of man, right up through the Iron Man, and so on, Bronze, Gold, Iron, etc. These are whole religions that you have to take separately at a time. But they all have that in common. They talk about ages.

Jackie: Okay, you know, no, I guess I didn’t. I was thinking that, for example, they say, we’re moving into the Age of Aquarius, that in that astrological, in order to, that each astrological sign in 20 some hundred years, and so, it takes

thirty.

Alan: That’s one. You see, that’s one version, and Plato also gave it that same definition or time period, of about twenty-five and a half thousand years. And sometimes they’ll call the Platonic year, after Plato. And other times they’ll call it the Grand Circle of the Zodiac. As opposed to the annual one.

Jackie: Okay. And that isn’t what they refer to though when they’re talking about ages?

Alan: It’s much more. On one level it is. It’s to do with the types of society, or the changes society would go through in every age, where a particular constellation dominates for a period of about two thousand odd years, you see. And that’s why Jesus was the sign of the Fish.

Jackie: Right, Pisces.

Alan: And he was the fisherman of men. And then we go into the Age of Aquarius, and Aquarius is a new type of, even though it’s a water sign, which is female, it’s a male. And the reason for it, being, a new type of man is to be created for Aquarius. And when there’s no conflict between male and female, then, they’ll have completely won the battle of all conflicts.

Jackie: And you’re talking about their desire to create a race of hermaphrodites.

Alan: That’s right. For slaves, that is. Not for themselves. Because Charles Galton Darwin and others have mentioned that the elite themselves wouldn’t change themselves. But they would change the…

Jackie: Oh, they’d remain male and female genders. Alan: Pardon?
Jackie: Well, like in their class, their elite class, they would still have males and females, not hermaphrodites.

Alan: Yeah, because it’s not just a hermaphrodite. It will be, you know, like a couple of guys holding hands. Or whatever they are. It’s to be a specially, you’ll be bred specifically, like Brave New World, like Huxley’s Brave New World, you will be bred for the task they have designed you for.

Jackie: Decanted.

Alan: That’s right. You’ll be brought into the world, with that task, and just like an ant or a bee is programmed, it’s in its genes, then you would be programmed for the task that you do. And you wouldn’t be born unless they had a task for you to fulfill. This is the age of statistics we’re living in, where everything is numbered, counted, weighed, balanced, function, etc. This is where it’s going.

Jackie: If, they’re successful. You know what I was just thinking. Their dream is our nightmare. Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: But as you’ve said, many times before, they’ve gotten very. (Noise interference)
Jackie: Hello? Alan: Hello? Jackie: Yeah.

Alan: Yeah. What’s happening?

Jackie: I haven’t the foggiest idea. I haven’t moved. Alan: I heard beeps and things.
Jackie: Oh, I heard a funny buzz. What I was going to say is that you have said many times before, they’ve been very, very close, and as we see, they’ve never been successful. If they were, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: And so, therefore, what they dream about, that would be a nightmare for us, is illusion for them. It’s their own illusion.

Alan: I wouldn’t say so. I wouldn’t say because it hasn’t been successful in the past that it could not be in the future. That truly is up to a different thing altogether.

Jackie: Why? Hell, this is going on for millennia, you said.

Alan: It doesn’t matter. That’s why, and people have asked me this, why on earth does it take to go from one phase to the next? I mean, look how long it took them to adjust society from, say an agricultural status, before the Industrial Revolution, even longer in the US, they already had industrialized the main cities in Europe, but literally, within a matter of ten years, they’d emptied all the people from the country into the cities to work in their industrial age. And eventually they bring in a form of Socialism. Socialism again is the statistics the weighing, the functions, the book keeping, everybody is tabbed an monitored etc, for a function, a purpose, as part of the mass. And they’ve been so meticulous and careful, even dishing out the technology they dish out. Everything they give to us is obsolete. The latest, whatever they give us is absolutely obsolete. Do you remember the old comedies, called Get Smart?

Jackie: Well, yes. I saw it a couple of times.

Alan: Well, back then, I think they did them in the 60s, but they gave us the reruns in Britain in the 70s. You saw the iris scan in a comedy show. They showed you the palmprint, as you’d get through a door in comedy shows. They showed you watches with the TV. They showed you the cell phones, the spies had in a comedy show. They showed you solid-state circuitry, before we’d even heard the term in comedy shows. Whatever they give us is actually obsolete. And it’s not for our benefit; it’s for their system to make it more, more secure for themselves.
They couldn’t even do this without the computer. They couldn’t get to where they want to go to, without the computer.

Jackie: How do you know they didn’t’ have computers? Alan: I didn’t say they didn’t.
Jackie: Oh, okay. Well, they didn’t make it before.

Alan: They gave us the computer to make it easier for them. Jackie: Say again.
Alan: They gave us the computer to make it easier for them.

Jackie: Okay. But, what I’m saying is in ancient times, the civilizations, at least we’ve read or been told, that there

were very highly advanced civilizations. And you talk about Sumer. Of course, then they had tablets they were writing on, I guess, but maybe before Sumer, Alan, maybe in Atlantis, that there were civilizations that had the technology.

Alan: It’s possibly, but they certainly had computers for a long, long time. Yeah. And not the huge bulky things they show us in the old movies.

Jackie: Oh really, the ones with the just little boards.

Alan: And the little tapes and all that in the walls. And you know the first one for the United States military was called CAIN. Cain?

Jackie: Really? Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: And what does that signify? Alan: The priest. The priesthood.
Jackie: The priesthood. Oh, shoot. Okay, look. We’re going to take about a three-minute break. And we’ll pick it up here. CAIN, that computer, the priesthood. Okay. Because CAIN is in the Old Testament is allegedly a person. Okay, we’ll be right back, folks, with Alan Watt, stay with us.

(Commercial Break)

Jackie: Okay, we’re back. Alan. Alan: Yes.
Jackie: Okay. You mentioned that the first military computer was called CAIN, Cain. And when I asked you, what does that mean to them, you said, it’s the priest, the priesthood.

Alan: Yeah, I think they gave it the term through Computer Assisted Intelligence. Jackie: Oh, sure, but.
Alan: But yeah.

Jackie: It was their own little cute little code. Alan: And that relates to the priesthood.
Alan: Well, Cain, again, this allegory of Cain was the one that was born, supposedly, being born of wisdom, intelligence, as opposed to the profane people around. That’s what it means, because the whole Masonic structure, you might say it’s a form of intellectual racism. It’s an elitist structure. And they have plenty of dodos at the bottom themselves, and even Albert Pike said that. The low Masons are no different than the profane themselves. They just use them.

Jackie: He called it the outer portico, didn’t he? Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And they’re, it’s intended that they will believe that they know what’s happening, or that they’re given the

truth.

Alan: Yeah. And yet, the ones up at the 32nd degree, and it’s no big deal getting up to the 32nd degree. Not these days. They just pay their way up, and then they all talk about the profane, the profane, the profane, as though they knew it all. But they know very little, really. Because that’s’ not the high levels either. That’s just the bottom.

Jackie: Do 32nd degree Masons look down on others in their own minds?

Alan: Yeah, some of them have told me that. Because they actually do sit and sort of boast about how smart they all are, compared to the rest of them.

Jackie: Smart or knowledgeable? Alan: Mm, hmm.
Jackie: Do they say smart or knowledgeable?

Alan: Knowledgeable. Perfected, you know. Because, it’s called the Rite of Perfection, remember. They believe they’ve been perfected, because they’ve learned virtue, yeah.

Jackie: They learned virtue. What are they taught about virtue, Alan?

Alan: Well, according to them, you see, this is the old nobility terminology, and if you ever want to have a good definition of it, you should see the movie called Rob Roy.

Jackie: Rob Roy. Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: I’ve got that on tape, and I’ve never watched it.

Alan: Okay, because, Rob Roy, you find when Rob Roy Macgregor goes to see the Lord of the land. The Lord makes a little quip at him. He says, my goodness, Roy, you’d almost think you were, meaning part of the nobility, like royal blood. But he said, oh, of course, that’s impossible. In other words, the defining line was so obvious in those days to them. You were either a member of the commoners or you were a member of the noble blood. So you were either profane or elite, you see, and wise. And of course, only the nobility, they claimed, could have virtue, you see.

Jackie: But what is their definition of virtue? Because I’m thinking of a particular 32nd degree Mason that I knew. Well, I’m going to tell you something, there was no virtue in this individual.

Alan: Yeah, well.

Jackie: So, what is, what are they given as the definition of virtue.

Alan: It is what they call the noble qualities of honor, you might say. Honor and so on. If you look up the virtues, what the virtues are, there are categories of them. And trust worthiness, honor, you honor your word. You don’t give it loosely. You follow up what you promise. You also honor your oaths, that’s a big thing.

Jackie: And the oaths to a Masonic.

Alan: Uh, huh. So, all of that is to do with their virtue. So, they pay their money, they get drunk an awful lot, and they’re told to repeat after me for their degrees and then they forget it all, because they can’t remember what they

went through in the first place, it goes so fast. So, suddenly they’ve become enlightened, and suddenly they’re very virtuous.

Jackie: Uh, huh.

Alan: But that’s the low end of the, because above that you have the Noble Orders you see.

Jackie: When, you remember, well, maybe you don’t, I do, the first phone call that we ever had together? Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: You had called me after a broadcast one evening. And I asked you, because, you know, you started talking, and oh, my God, I found myself pressing the phone up against my ear until it was almost going through my head.
And suddenly, I said, excuse me, why are we having this conversation? And when you didn’t answer, I said, well, why did you call me? And when you said, well, I’ve been listening, I see, that, you know, that you’ve almost got it, you said, but not quite. And when I asked you what not quite was, you said, oh, I couldn’t tell you. It’s too awful. And when I got like, a little indignant and said, wait a minute, if you’ve been listening to me, the truth, no matter how awful it is, I want it. And what you said to me, is you said, well, I’ll just give you a clue, it’s all about the blood. And you didn’t go any further. And I don’t think I ever asked you actually to explain. And the two things in my mind, what you were alluding to were the bloodlines and the blood sacrifices.

Alan: That’s right. Bloodlines, blood sacrifices, a religion based on that. You always find that they have a blood sacrifice before the major wars, or before they want a special event, or even as a token, before they go the next step for a war. Whether it’s bringing down towers with people in it, or whatever else. There’s always a sacrifice
required.

Jackie: Like Pearl Harbor? Alan: Yeah, always, uh-huh.
Jackie: Well, then the war itself is an ongoing sacrifice of blood.

Alan: The blood that was spilt in wars, I mean literally you’re talking about billions of gallons over the 20th century. Incredible, incredible you know. And yet they keep telling us that there’s going to be peace. It’s interesting that they wrote in the old plan, the old plan called Revelations, that by peace he would destroy many. You see? By peace, he would destroy many. And we’re seeing it today, under the auspices. We’re heading towards peace with a New World Order, as they slaughter more and more people. You know.

Jackie: I told you that Brian Merchant, the man that I heard later, was the head of the National Security Council. When I asked, he said that the President has the war-making powers; he’s the Commander in Chief. And I said, no, only if he’s called into the service of the US, and that would be an act of Congress. And only Congress can declare war. And Brian Merchant said to me, however, under international law, peacekeeping is not defined as war. Right? That’s it.

Alan: Yeah. That’s right. And that was what George Orwell talked about, the use of terminology to completely alter your perception of an event. And so we call them peacekeepers. Now, it looks like a soldier to me, with his grenades in his belt and his big machine gun, and his boots, and all the rest of his insignia. A soldier is a soldier is a soldier, no matter what other title you want to call him. And our perceptions are altered through propaganda, all the time, from the top. All our countries get the same stuff of how they’re over there to create peace. Now, the Romans invaded most of Europe, brought in the money system, even then with them. Luckily, it died out after they left for a while, until the Normans brought it back, but the Romans came in, made everybody use the money system, then they started taxing it back as labor, you see. This is what this is all just based on, is usury, taxation, and labor.

Jackie: And when you talk about the Normans bringing in money, I have to go back to the Old Testament, and the story of Joseph in Egypt, and after the famine came, and the people had given all their grain, to them to store, so they came when the famine came. And he said, okay, you can have it, but you have to buy it. But it said, in that Old Testament, that allegedly was written thousands of years ago, that he said, okay, the people paid for the grain that they had grown, and then they said, Joseph took the money and took it to the pharaoh, and you see that he created a depression, because the money supply dried up. But, they literally said, the next time they came, they said the money failed.

Alan: We’ll take your land the next time.

Jackie: I know, but they used the word money then. What were they using for money then, Alan? Alan: Well, it wasn’t. You see, that’s an allegorical fable.
Jackie: About what’s going on today.

Alan: No, it’s meant to conceal a real priesthood that was there for thousands of years before. Because, you see, at one time, all peoples in the Middle East and all peoples, all cultures, in fact, it happened all over Europe, you’d have a granary for the people, because you’d have to get through a winter, especially in Europe, and you had to get through the season, and it was dished out gradually as the winter went on. And the rest was actually given out by the headman, the chief at one point, for your growing, you see. And every person was given a portion, an equal portion to grow. Well, in the Middle East, the priests caught on to the fact that they could give out so much grain at so much percentage on return value. So, we’ll give you so much pounds of seed, or whatever, and you bring us so much corn back or whatever else they were growing. And so, they were all using an interest scheme before they used coin. And that began in the Middle East, that scam. And once they got the coin in, and that was about 800BC, that scam really took off. And then they increased the tithing up to ten percent. So, as they gave you so much seed as well, they asked for the same amount back in actual grain plus ten percent. Then it kept going up. This is the oldest dodge in the book. The oldest.

Jackie: But they called it money in the Old Testament.

Alan: They also called it different terms, which is, you see, there’s so much allegory that’s only explained to very high Freemasons. Even the term seed doesn’t necessarily mean people or your offspring.

Jackie: Say again.

Alan: Even the term seed does not necessarily mean your offspring. Even that has double meanings. Jackie: Well, what would the other meaning be, besides offspring.
Alan: Okay. They used to give sacrifices to say, Moloch, was one name. Some of the called it Milcum, which in the West they called it Malcolm. And the hands were outstretched, it was a burning fire, it was a brazen fire. You throw much of your yield into that fire. That was putting the seed through the fire, they called it. That was one version of it. And yet, they’ve also dug up the Phoenician version, where they actually did burn babies, and they’ve found urns, where those little charred remains are. So, there’s always at least two or three versions of the same thing in all of these religions. And every religion has the same inner religion or priesthood within it, at all times.

Jackie: And somebody told me that that meant that these people that were dancing around the fire that it was actually sperm, their seed.

Alan: I don’t know.

Jackie: Okay, you never heard that. Okay.

Alan: No. But they certainly had, there’s so many allegories buried within religion, because religion was as old as can be, of all kinds. And the con men had to always have understood how to get people to work for them, have used religion to guide and steer, control and profit from the masses. And religion has been the perfect institution up until now. And even now, that’s why Gorbachev said, we’re creating a new religion for the world, based on Earth Worship. But he doesn’t mean bowing down to the Earth. You’ll have a bureaucracy, a new priesthood that will make you live according to the terms that they claim is good for the Earth, you see. Which is X amount of children, if any at all. And no doubt, down the road it will be like Logan’s Run, where the older ones are just killed off.

Jackie: Yes. Or like The Giver, in the book, with the children. For our listeners, folks, for those of you who have children, who are in the public government indoctrination centers we once called schools, if you haven’t heard of the book, The Giver, your child will probably read it, and it would be very, very important for you to get the book. You can get it in the bookstores. It was given a prize, a literary prize. It’s a child’s version of Nineteen Eighty-Four, only it’s so ugly that it’s pathetic. And it would be good if you could read that book with your child, to help them through it. Because they, for the most part, they’re getting it in the schools. It’s called The Giver. And there’s one particular
segment in that book, in this community, the story revolves around, that no two people could have the same name or be alike. When twins were born, the twin that was the lightest got sent elsewhere. And elsewhere, they described the procedure, fifth graders, this is recommended for fifth grade reading. What are they nine years old in the fifth grade, Alan? Where, in the book, the Caretaker, the Nurturer, in the Nursery, took the baby that was going to be sent elsewhere, and very descriptively in the book, went to the cupboard and got a needle, which the young boy who was watching thought he was going to get “vaccinated”, he stuck the needle in the soft spot of the baby’s head and the baby quivered and went limp, he was dead, and he was thrown down a garbage shoot. I’m sorry to draw us away from that Alan, but that came to my mind. And it’s really important for our listeners who have children to understand that their children are being fed all of this to inure them to, what is another word I’m trying to.

Alan: Desensitize.

Jackie: Thank you, desensitize them.

Alan: And the same with all the movies being brought up, and all the video games, they’ve been brought up with, where you just go, kill, kill, kill to the end of the game, and that’s all it’s about really. So, sure. Our mind, you might say, our culture, our thoughts, are given to us, trained into us, scientifically, as Bertrand Russell talked about. And he should know, since he helped design it. And they’ve done it. They’ve been very, very successful. You can see it today. Maurice Strong, at the last Earth Summit that he had, and he only read the Summit, it was made up by Rockefeller. That’s who wrote it up. Maurice Strong…

Jackie: You know for sure that Rockefeller wrote it.

Alan: Yeah. And Maurice Strong said, we have to destroy what’s left of the last vestiges of the family unite. That’s the only thing standing in the way of government, which will be then confronting the individual, straight to the individual, nobody in between. Government to individual. You won’t have any friends to stand up for you, your family to stand up or help you. If you notice, that was actually done at the Louisiana when the hurricane came in. They didn’t allow people to go and help their neighbors. Only the government was allowed to do that. So, if your neighbor was on a roof, and they fell in and they were drowning, you weren’t allowed to go in and help them.

Jackie: There was a man from Florida, I believe, and he might have been a National Guard. He rescued some people. And they were going to, I don’t know, whatever fine or punishment that he was going to get, because he stepped out of his designated role. He wasn’t there to do that. He was there to keep, you know, the peace, so to speak.

Alan: Follow the rules.

Jackie: This was in a newspaper article. He was called down for rescuing, saving, the lives of a couple of people. Alan: For being human, he was going to be punished.

Jackie: For being human, he was going to be punished.

Alan: They don’t want human emotions, because that can work two ways. People can stand up for people if they’re being picked on or persecuted. But when there’s no one to stand by you, especially any family, then it’s government straight to you. That’s what happened in the Soviet system, where they used to come in. And they would call the whole street out, you know, under their laws, when they were going to arrest somebody in an apartment.

Jackie: And let people see the arrest.

Alan: Let them see it. And then they would. Solzhenitsyn talked about it. He says, we should never have allowed this to begin. He says, when they first came, these two or three men with their pistols and so on, he says, we should have grabbed axes and killed them on the spot. He said, because once it starts, he says, you become used to it so quickly you want to just turn away.

Jackie: You’re only glad it wasn’t you. Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: That’s what they do.

Alan: And that’s, that’s’ when you’re going into a state, and abusive state, of dejection. That’s where you become, you feel worthless, hopeless. It’s meant to make you feel hopeless as well, and to make you completely comply with every ridiculous law that comes along.

Jackie: I want to go back to what you said about this man being punished because he was being human. The thought that occurred to me is that this is where the choices come in every single time. You know, we talk about this a lot. The choices that we make. Every choice that we make, every moment of every day, makes all the difference in the world. And somebody who would say, oh, I’d like to save those people, but geez, I’m going to get in trouble.
They’re lost, aren’t they Alan? They’re already lost souls.

Alan: They’re lost. There’s also the technique, which they wrote about in the 1800s, that they would create, in the time of the mass man, where everyone was dependent on money to survive and a job, especially with government or armies or police forces, you would hear the term, I was just doing my job. How many times has that been said? I was just doing my job.

Jackie: Or somebody who stays in a job that they know is. Alan: Wrong.
Jackie: Very wrong. And they say, well, I have a family to feed. Many times, the people who stay in that job to “feed their family”, basically what’s behind that is all the toys and whistles.

Alan: They think its security, yeah.

Jackie: Well, that they want, and they have to have this “high-paying job” or this level of income, in order to live the way they want.

Alan: And therefore they can rationalize anything they do.

Jackie: Yes. And you know what it does come down to, is that they’re no longer living, they’re just surviving.

Alan: Yeah, and that’s what I mean, we talked about once before that people kind of sense, they kind of sense they can give up spirit, you can give it up, you know. Because there are decisions you make all through your life that go

on beyond just this. And when you decide to profit at someone else’s expense and towards their dismay and they’re discomfort or their death, even, and use that excuse, oh, I was just doing my job. We’ll you’ve just cut yourself off from everything else from then on. In fact, you don’t even qualify as a human any more. You’re a robot.

Jackie: Before we end this broadcast, I want you to tell our listeners about the DVD that you have ready to go now. It has been ready. And there was a…

Alan: A glitch.

Jackie: Thank you. Yeah, in the formatting. I received my disc, my DVD, and it works beautifully. And my sis and I sat and watched it. Very, very interesting, Alan. Well, once again, and you know, I’m not saying this, just say, oh, well, my sis isn’t aware or anything, but you were in some very, extremely heavy conversation, and I thought, well, maybe she wouldn’t be interested in this. She was totally engrossed in the whole thing. Not that I, because my sis and I, of course, we’ve talked about a lot of things, so she’s not unaware, but she’s never heard the conversations, these types of conversations that you got into, in the DVD, and laid it out, and she found it extremely fascinating and enlightening to coin a phrase.

Alan: Okay.

Jackie: And, so tell our listeners about it.

Alan: Yeah, it’s different from the usual. I don’t go into just all of the details of what’s happening to you today, and what’s going to be done to you tomorrow. I go into a much deeper philosophy, to show you where it’s come from down through the ages, up to the present time. And it’s meant for the thinkers, not the reactionaries. You think before you do any reaction, hopefully. And this goes much deeper, in a sense, into the occult as well, and the religion behind all of this, which is in all religions at the top. And it takes you where they want us to go. So, it’s, and it’s different. It’s not boring. It’s not a boring, it’s broken up with music and stuff, so, it’s, and the music matches the topics, so, enjoy it too.

Jackie: Thank you. Okay. How can they get it?

Alan: Look into the website, it’s cuttingthroughthematrix.com. And you’ll see it listed there. And these work well, these discs.

Jackie: And it’s titled, Reality Check Part 2. Alan: Wisdom, Esoterica, and Time.
Jackie: Okay, and the address is there, and how to order it, making sure that it’s an international postal money order etc.

Alan: It’s the first in the Esoteric line. And it’s worthwhile watching. This type of thing hasn’t really been done in this type of way before.

Jackie: Yeah, and there were some of the, oh, what am I trying to say, not the Masonic symbols but the words that you gave us the meanings of. And I still didn’t understand it. And I’d like to make a note of it and ask you, for me, and maybe any other listener who didn’t quite get that. Because, some of this goes over my head, Alan.

Alan: Well, do it off the air, because it will spoil it for the ones who haven’t seen it yet. Jackie: Oh, okay.
Alan: Yeah.

Jackie: Okay. Well, I’ll have to watch it again and write it down. Alan: Yeah, oh, you’ll get it. Yeah.
Jackie: Okay. Well, we are out of our hour. And we’ll be back next Wednesday night, folks. And do be sure to tune in to Sweet Liberty, Monday and Tuesday for Darren Weeks. Darren has an excellent broadcast, steeped in documentation, and his own commentaries. And Darren is the Webmaster extraordinaire of the sweetliberty.org website. We’ll see you later. Thank you.

 

 

February 14th, 2006 Alan Watt (Solo) on “Sweet Liberty”
Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt – February 14th, 2006 (Exempting Music, Literary Quotes, and Callers’ Comments)

 

 

 

Alan Watt: Hello, this is Alan Watt here, standing in for Darren. He’s taking his wife out tonight, for the Valentine’s dinner. And he phoned me up this evening to stand in. There’s been no music, because I didn’t know that Darren plays it, generally. I thought it was automatically coming on the radio.

And today is the 14th of February 2006. And I had no major topic to talk about today, except, perhaps, to put some of the tremendous finger-pointing that goes on between who’s behind this move towards the Great Society, as they call it, that is being created gradually, down through the last many centuries, actually. Who’s behind this. And who’s right and who’s wrong when it comes to all the finger-pointing between different groups. And, the thing is, if you check into the material, the written materials of every group, and follow what they say, and the documentation that they have, you can check out yourself, and say, my God, they’re all right. Every one of these sides with their documentation tends to make you think they’re right. Well, how can they all be right? And the facts do all check out. You’ll find characters on every side of this affair, who did make certain statements, who did make policies, who did decide to make major moves within the world, and it’s all well documented. And yet, they’re all doing it. And it isn’t until you understand the big picture.

You have to get above the world, and look down here, to see the big picture, to understand that all of these groups, at the top, are led by the same high, occult society. The top members know each other. They’re all brothers, high brothers. The idea of a pyramid that appears in so many of their emblems, is that, you cannot see, if you’re on one side of a pyramid, how many other sides there are. You can’t see them. Only the guy at the top, on the capstone, can look down on all sides. And then, remember, there’s another side, which you don’t see, which is the base. So there’s actually five sides to the pyramid. So only the guy at the top knows all the secrets. And Masonry is a degreed system, where every degree means that you cannot tell the secrets of your new degree, and the new truths

as they call them – new truths, because they keep changing the truth as you go up – to the guy beneath you. So it’s a need-to-know basis.

And what you have behind all of this, is an ancient religion, ancient, which really has its basis, apart from an occultic sense, perhaps even a demonic sense, you might say, it has its basis on evolution. And that’s why evolution has been pushed so mightily, openly, since Darwin’s day, but this has always been their goal, that ultimately man would evolve. They call it The Great Leap Forward. That’s the term which they used before World War II, in many of their own publications, Masonic publications. The Great Leap Forward, but then they didn’t say how it would happen, you see. And since nothing, as far as we can tell, evolves by itself in nature, they meant that man, because this is their religion, and they count themselves, by the way, as man. Not everyone is man. There’s man, and then there’s the ‘its’ you see. And they believe that through their own will and intellect, by using science, they will self-become a new creation. A god you might say. Self-becoming God. And this symbol has been used from ancient times of the god that’s born out of the head of Zeus, self-willed, and born without the aid of any god. This is what it means, and they call it becoming. Many terms for the same thing.

And so, back in the 1800s, many of the writers were picked by the fledgling Royal Institute of International Affairs, which is the British version and Commonwealth version of the CFR, paid writers to go out into the world, and write novels about the coming system. And this is called predictive programming, through fiction. And it works very, very successfully. Actually more successfully than straight, dry, boring non-fiction books, because no one, when you’re watching a movie or reading a book of fiction, your censor part of the mind of your brain is down. And when that happens, you’re being downloaded, really. You’re being led along a path using emotion. And that’s emotive imprinting, they call it. And through emotion, they can make you desire or want or feel good towards or against anything, through a fictional story. And you’re being shown, in a sense, the future, that they’re going to bring to you. And once the movie or the book is finished, you think you’ve put it away and that’s that. But no, you’ve been familiarized now with the possibility of this particular story or sci-fi, or whatever. And so when you see it manifest in your own life, and the beginnings of the manifestation, because it’s familiar to you, you think, well, I guess that’s just the natural way we’re evolving. We’re evolving this way. Society is just evolving. Nothing could be further from the truth.

History, as it’s written and presented in most school books, seems to be simply a conglomerate of guys scattered across the planet, who suddenly have too many hormones and decide to go off with armies and become an Emperor by slaughtering other people. And that’s further from the truth too. Nothing could be more far from the truth. From 4,500 B.C., at least, there’s been this move, stage by stage, of what they call bringing civilization – now they call it democracy, but it’s the same thing – a system of money, debt, standing armies, a society where experts run everything. They’ve been bringing this gradually forward, down through the centuries, up to the present, and with every area they take over, they call it an expanded empire. So war has helped to bring an expanded empire which destroys existing cultures and standardizes the people into the one culture. So they’re standardizing, down through the centuries, until we get to the stage today where the United States of America, which was created and founded to bring in the Novus Ordo Seclorum, The New World Order, is finishing off its job.

And that was referred to by all the founding fathers as Manifest Destiny. In many of the old books by the founding fathers and some of the first generation after them, they referred to this all the time, in their publications, as Manifest Destiny. It was never fully explained, obviously, to the public, but now we’re seeing what it is. Not only are we seeing it, we’re having it explained to us by people like Brzezinski. You’ll see it in the New American Century club, the little club formed by Wolfowitz and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Bush and so on, before 9/11 happened, where they listed the coming wars, which they would have to do, they said, to maintain control of the world, beginning with Afghanistan, next into Iraq, then in Iran, then Syria. They published this first in the early ’90s, and it’s available to the public. And then they republished it and updated it in ’98, and lo and behold, in 2001, we find that they have the very thing they needed to stimulate the American people, as Brzezinski said in his book, published in ’97, The Grand Chessboard. “We will need something of a Pearl Harbor event to motivate the American public behind us for the war.”

Now, how many people can make wish lists like this for Santa Claus? Or win the lotto, just knowing you’re going to

win it? These guys write what they’re going to do, an event happens, right on cue, when they need it, ten years exactly to the date, where George Bush Sr. talked about the coming New World Order, the Big Idea. The Masonic term, the Big Idea, you see. That was on September 11th, 1990 and repeated in 1991. So, I don’t need to go over and over the events of 9/11 to convince myself what happened here. You have to carry on from there and see what’s evolved since then, because the push is now on for the US to fulfill its supposed Manifest Destiny, that which it was created to do.

It should also be understood that prior to America having the Revolution, Britain in other countries, France and some of the Germanic and Prussian countries, had their own international meetings to discuss who would bring in this system. And they realized that none of them could be chosen, because every one of them was known by the rest of the world as an empire builder and a plunderer, basically. So they had to create a new shining knight, that claimed “I’m different. I’m honest. And I’m all for the people,” you see. And so the U.S. was born. And it was born by a bunch of Masons, who got inside a big building, locked the doors, had guards on the doors, to keep the profane, you know, the masses out, and came out with this draft, which has been waved and waved and waved ever since, to justify everything under the sun. From persecuting the average American today, to going off to foreign wars yesterday. It’s the same thing, it goes both ways. And when they said this is for our posterity, written in the
bill, they’re talking about their own offspring. Their own offspring, you see, the Mason’s offspring, the same families.

So we’re living under a very old plan, an ancient plan, which believes in evolution. And evolution to them goes back to the mystery religions of ancient times, where they studied nature. And they said, you cannot have an action without an equal and opposite reaction. A law of science. And they studied the seasons, and they used to say that summer battled winter, and spring would battle fall, and so on. In other words, to get change, which always comes – a law of nature is change in the seasons of nature – then you must create sides to get the changes to occur. In a human society, that means perpetual, ongoing war. War and conflict. And from the conflict, you get the resolution. And that starts right back again as your thesis. You create an opposition to it, its antithesis; and then you have another outcome, synthesis. And it repeats itself from the synthesis back to the new thesis. And on and on it goes. This was taught widely in all the Communist schools in the Soviet Union, and Lenin and many other Communists wrote copiously on this very technique. But it isn’t a Communist thing – they used it – it’s everybody’s thing.

All the Masons use it in every country. The Jesuits use it, because they’re part of Freemasonry. Isis with a thousand faces. That’s what they used to call it in Babylon. It was the same church, with a thousand faces. And even then it was a mystery, because people had a hard time pointing out who was behind things. “Oh, it’s that priest here. No, it’s the priests over there. No, it’s those ones down south.” It’s the same today. The guys who lead these people at the top of every group are the same brotherhood, and they know the agenda. The ones down below on the lower orders have had real wars between themselves, down through the ages, because there must be real bloody conflict, to convince the people. They must have conflict. And that’s what they call the law of nature, which through struggle, and Hitler used the same term, Mein Kampf, My Struggle, because he believed in it too. And I’m sure he was put there too by the same oligarchy, to do his bit. Through struggle, they would evolve into Super-man. And that’s the key to it, is Super-man.

So we find with the founders of the Fabian Society, with the Webbs, and H.G. Wells, and Lord Bertrand Russell, and many of the elite, because the elite created the so-called far left wing Fabian society, and it was given a British Royal Charter to exist. So you find that these people, actually, when they were quizzed about the future for the working man, “are you for the working man? Is that what this society is for?” Mr. Webb piped up, along with Beatrice, her name was Beatrice Potter by the way, her maiden name. And he said, oh goodness, no, he says, the masses can’t decide for themselves. He says, the society we envisage is a world to be run by scientific experts.
And different categories of scientific experts to do with school, and psychology and so on and so on, you see. That’s the true meaning of the far-left wing. It’s nothing to do with the working person, any more than Communism had to do with the average peasant in Russia. At the end of the Soviet system, comparative standards of living of the bureaucracies living in the Soviet Bloc were on equal par with the bureaucracies of Britain and America. So much for the working man.

So, the United States, as I say, was born for this Manifest Destiny. One of their own Masons, who was a

spokesman for pushing this agenda, was Manly Palmer Hall. And he put a book out called, America’s Secret Destiny, a Masonic book. And he outlined the agenda, same thing, again, this why America is born. That’s why you’ve got the Washington phallus there. It’s an Egyptian obelisk. The first brand new one to be built, on that scale, to raise Washington up to godhood. That’s what that is for. He was raised to godhood by the Masons for his work, for his great work. Whereas Britain imported one of the ones from Heliopolis in Egypt and put it in front of all their banks, you see. And there’s one in the park in New York, from Egypt. And there’s one in front of the Parliament of France, imported from Egypt. And then there’s the other one, in front of the Pope’s window, in St. Peter’s Square, from Egypt, brought by Constantine’s son into the circus, and then moved around the 1500s to the Vatican Square.

We’re looking at a religion that uses the same symbols, down through the eons. It manages every traditional religion. It makes sure that the top guys who run religions, and that’s the duty of organization, there’s always a tiered structure of control, so it’s easy to put your own men at the top and keep control, you see. That’s why organized anything is rather dangerous. And so they give you your passive religion to keep you as sheep, dull, stupid, and munching on the grass, and obeying, and not thinking, while they pretend they’re the good shepherds and they’re managing everything. They are the scientific elite. They are the experts. That’s what they’re there for. Don’t have to worry about anything. If the news comes on, they’ll tell me all I need to know. And they will tell you all you need to know.

The media is one of the most important arms of government. We have a media that will not even mention the spraying in the skies that’s happening every day across a good part of the planet. If they won’t tell you that, if they won’t talk about it, why on earth would you expect them to tell you the truth about anything?

So, H.G. Wells, getting back to this predictive programming and the novels that they were paid to write, and put into our minds, as a sort of natural evolution to come, you see. H.G. Wells wrote a book, and he used the preface of the speech that he gave to the Royal Institute of International Affairs in 1936. And he called this, his lecture, The Concept of a World Encyclopedia. If you remember in the French Revolution, the high Masons who took over called themselves the Encyclopedists. So here’s Wells, in 1936, talking about the concept of a World Encyclopedia.

“At the first realization of the ineffectiveness of our best thought and knowledge struck only for a few people, like Mr. Maynard Keynes, for example. It is science, and not men of science that we want to enlighten and animate in our politics and rule the world.”

(Alan: And rule the world. And rule the world. That’s for the hard of hearing.)

“Wells basically reiterated the doctrine of scientism in his speech.” (A: To continue.) “I want to suggest that something, a new social organization, a new institution, which for a time I shall call World Encyclopedia. This World Encyclopedia would be the mental background of every intelligent man in the world. Such an Encyclopedia would play the role of an undogmatic bible to the world culture.” (A: To the world culture.) “It would do just what our scattered and disorientated, intellectual organizations of today fall short of doing. It would hold the world together, mentally.” (A: Now, remember that.) ” It would hold the world together, mentally. It would compel men to come to terms with one another” (A: Compel, you see. Compel men. That means force, you see, to come together.) “It is a superior university I am thinking of, a world brain.” (A: A world brain. I wonder if anyone’s having pictures in their minds right now of what that could mean. He said:) “A world brain, no less. Ultimately, if our dream is realized, it must exert a very great influence upon every one who controls administration, makes wars, directs mass behavior, feeds, moves, starves, and kills populations. You see how such an Encyclopedic Organization could spread like a nervous network.” (A: Got little pictures in your head now? Nervous network. A sort of web, perhaps?) “A system of mental control about the globe. Knitting all the intellectual workers of the world through a common interest and cooperating unity, and a growing sense of their own dignity. And forming without pressure or propaganda, directing without tyranny.”

That’s from H.G. Wells, his presentation to the Royal Institute of International Affairs, 1936. Now, what does he mean by a World Encyclopedia? And I’m sure if I had a second line, I’d have callers, I’d hope I’d have callers saying, well, are they talking about computers here. Perhaps. Or maybe supercomputers, maybe a web, as he calls

it a nervous system. So, if we add this statement. And remember, we’re living in the past. Level one reality is antique. All technology that we have is antique at this level. Whatever we’re given as the latest is obsolete at the top.

Now, here’s from journalist Nathan Cochrane. And this comes, actually from, he has a website, I believe. I got it from a book, actually. And he’s got a long, long website, if I can find it, if anyone wants to check it. It’s http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/20/1026898931815.html and that was posted July 23rd, 2002. The article was called:

US Reports tell of Brave New World by Nathan Cochrane

(A: And here it is)

A draft government report says we will alter human evolution within 20 years by combining what we know of nanotechnology, biotechnology, integrated technology (IT) and cognitive sciences. The 405-page report sponsored by the US National Science Foundation and Commerce Department, Converging Technologies for Improving Human Performance, calls for a broad-based research program to improve human performance leading to (A: Listen to this) telepathy, (A: They’re talking about having a chip in your brain, if you haven’t caught on.) machine-to- human communication, amplified personal sensory devices and enhanced intellectual capacity.

(A: That’s from Cochrane’s report, page 1, 2002. To carry on with the second part of the same article:)

People may download their consciousnesses into computers or other bodies even on the other side of the solar system, or participate in a giant “hive mind”, (A: A giant hive mind. Is that the Borg, perhaps?) a network of intelligences connected through ultra-fast communications networks. “With knowledge no longer encapsulated in individuals, the distinction between individuals and the entirety of humanity would blur,” (A: The distinction between individuals and the entirety of humanity would blur.) the report says. “Think Vulcan mind-meld. We would perhaps become more of a hive mind – an enormous, single, intelligent entity.”

(A: That report that he gave out, finishes with, it says:)

The report says the abilities are within our grasp but will require an intense public-relations effort to “prepare key organizations and societal activities for the changes made possible by converging technologies”, and to counter concern over “ethical, legal and moral” issues. (A: Now, listen to that, again.) to counter concern over “ethical, legal and moral” issues. (A: You see, they’ve already got the propaganda techniques working, already, since that meeting, through movies, through cartoons even, to make this a positive thing to go for.) Education should be overhauled down to the primary-school level to bridge curriculum gaps between disparate subject areas.

It’s the half time. Well, we won’t have music tonight, but you’re listening to Alan Watt on Sweet Liberty, standing in for Darren, who’s off tonight. And I’m reading some articles here about the scientific dictatorship basically, which we’re under today, which is actually an ancient religion, simply coming into manifestation, as they see their end goal in sight.

Now, Zbigniew Brzezinski who has been an advisor to, I don’t know how many Presidents, he was there even with Carter, and he’s still there. And he’s on television quite regularly. His area seems to be mind control and national security.

Hello, this is Alan here again. I’m back on the air. And of course, there’s no one to play the music tonight, because Darren is gone for the night. So, I’ll continue with Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was President Carter’s National Security advisor. And he’s still advising the present bunch along with Kissinger and so on. He wrote a book in 1997, which sort of backed up the New American Century publication, of their agenda. And he said in this book, The Grand Chessboard.

“The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed a tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time ever, a non-Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key arbiter of Eurasian power relations but also as the world’s paramount power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the final step in the rapid ascendance of a Western Hemisphere power, the United States, as the sole and, indeed, the first truly global power.”

Alan: Hello?

Jeff: Oh, yes. This is Jeff calling from Chelsea Massachusetts. How’s it going? Alan: I can barely hear you.
Jeff: Oh, really? Now, as far as global politics is concerned, what the United States has to do to be sovereign again, is to eliminate our treaties as far as NAFTA, GATT, and the FTAA, which is coming up, all these treaties. When we do that, we can truly become a sovereign country, again. But if we don’t, then we’ll be, like you said, a globalist power. It’s just that simple.

Alan: Okay. If you can hang up now, I’ll reply. Okay? Jeff: Okay, I’ll hang up.
Alan: Yes, well, that really wouldn’t make much of a difference to be honest, because, see, everything which you think is normal in your life has been planned that way. It didn’t evolve that way. Including the founding of the United States in the first place. And all the things that you hold near and dear, with the flags and the songs and all the usual stuff is actually called culture creation, which you can read about. It’s actually a science. You can read about it as far back as Plato, who wrote about it, and how they create cultures for the people. Culture never comes from the grass roots. It comes from the top down. It’s authorized to be there, you see. Anything. Control freaks who have total control, never allow anything to come up truly from the grassroots and survive, because something outside of their plan, no matter how innocent it may be, could have such unforeseen ripple effects, it could cause chaos to them. So, the US did not become. What stage of America would you want to go back to? When FDR ruled with his version of the bank and the debt system? Would you want to go back to the depression? Would you want to go back to two or three depressions they had in the 1800s, when Morgan and all the bunch got together and sank the economy and looted it? Looted all the pensions, three times in ten years. What part of America do you want to go back to? You see, it’s always been run by the same people, the robber barons. They’re pirates. That’s their symbol, the skull and bones. That’s the symbol of Masonry. So you can never go back to something which was artificial to begin with. Right after you got the constitution and the hoorays, you had the Treaty of Paris. Well, go and check into that and see what the U.S. signed away. Look at the first law they passed, supposedly to fight taxation from Britain, they passed the Whiskey Laws, and then got a little army up to go and slaughter all the guys who were making their whiskey. It’s the same system under a new face. Better disguised, but the same system.
So you can’t go back. There’s a movie called Hollywoodism. It’s put out by Hollywood producers, and it’s subtitled how we created American culture. Get a hold of it. And get it from the horse’s mouth. It’s been the same in every country. The same technique has been used for thousands of years. Well documented on how it’s done, by Plato.

So, I’ll get back to Zbigniew Brzezinski. He talks about this global superpower, the first truly global power. You see, the rest of them, they called the Roman Empire, etc. Which was a huge empire, but in a sense it wasn’t right round the whole world. This one here is to be round the whole world. The standardization of one system. And if you remember, the symbols of knights, because the high knights are the guys who are in charge of this on all sides. And they have a flag, which they call a standard. And they plant the standard in a field before the battle. And when they win a battle, then that standard, that symbol of the standard is spread over the conquered land. They standardize everything and everywhere they go. Standardization. That’s it. The one system. And this has been going on for so, so long. So, yeah, Brzezinski knew it was coming. He was in on the planning of this. And he also basically said, it could only be held together by global scientific dictatorship, a world of experts, elite experts, to run the people.

If we fall back to Charles Galton Darwin’s book, the physicist, the grandson of Charles Darwin, who wrote the book, The Next Million Years in 1954 or ’56. He said the same thing there, that the elite themselves will not alter themselves physically, meaning, they won’t take a chip, you see, or have the nasty inoculations, and eat the modified food and so on. He said, they must retain their survival capabilities, because the elite will be steering the ship of earth. The masses won’t need theirs, because the state will be making all their decisions for them. So, keep that in mind when you read what they talk about this universal consciousness, this telepathic hive mind which they talk about.

This is the same Rosicrucian term that was used by John Dee and Francis Bacon in the 1500s, the Universal Mind, the One. We’ll all be one. Now think of the Borg from the Star Trek series, and it’s exactly the same. The Borg ship is called the Hive. All of the cyborgs, part human, part machine, are connected with little chips, to a central computer in the ship, the hive and they hear each other’s whispers going through. And they show you right there.
They show you when some are caught and captured and asked about themselves, they couldn’t react as an individual. They said “we.” They always referred to themselves as “we,” because you cannot be an individual and be totally connected at the same time.

This particular article from Cochrane, was held in Loyola University. And there was 600 pages, came out at the University level, and they took 250 pages away for the public. However, I’ve got a copy of the original. And they said the chip is ready to go, all we must do is convince the public to accept it. This will be done, they continue. This will be done by promotion through movies, science fiction and cartoons, even taught in kindergarten as a wonderful thing to come, in school. And going through all these pages, 600 pages of all these top scientists and Newt Gingrich led off the meeting by the way, paid for by your tax money. The scientists said that they’ll promote it, making it a desirable thing for children. Children will want what they think are superpowers, like their comic characters, their cartoon characters, or Spider-Man or whatever. They’ll think it’s going to give them special powers, so that’s how they’re going to promote it to them. However that same meeting said that supercomputers, Cray supercomputers, are already set up in every region, that’s the term they love to use, region, across the United States and Canada.
And when everyone has the chip, the real function will kick in. And literally, there will be no more individuality. They said it would be impossible for anyone to even perceive of themselves as a distinct separate “I”, individual.

So, the card, of course, the Identification Card, which is coming in 2007. It’s already being given out at the border at the moment for $2, so if you rush now, you get it at the deal of $2 you see. This is how they’re promoting it, for frequent cross-border shoppers. And it has an active ID chip in it. It has your iris scan. It has your DNA sample and your code in there. It has a digital photograph of you. This has your medical history. It’s eventually to be used the same way, it’s the same as the British card, and they’ve admitted there that it will eventually be your sole bank and credit card for the cashless society. So, once people accept that, and I can’t see any reason why they won’t, because there’s enough people rushing to get the ‘buy now at $2 while you can, prices won’t last’, there’s enough of them lining up, like idiots, right now, so I can’t see it being much of a problem for most people taking it.

The masses have never really been a problem for the elite who run the world. The reason for the brain chip really isn’t for the masses. They’re not worried about them so much. This is an attack on the individual thinker. That’s who they must get. That’s their Achilles heel. They’re terrified of the individual thinker. So everyone is going to get chipped by law. And once the card is out there and everyone has one, you’ll see such a spate of robberies and muggings to get the card. It will go on for year or two at the most, until we’re sick of hearing it, night after night on the media, and lo and behold, they’ll come forward and say, well, we’ve got the solution right here. And it’s called the chip, by the way, because that’s the Masonic term, as they go round the block, as they call it, the big Ashlar, the little altar in the middle. It’s a chip off the old block. That’s their little sarcastic joke, on you.

This is a religion behind this. A religion that they claim was born, at least the Great Work plan was born, 4,500 BC. And step by step, generation by generation, conquest by conquest, they’ve been taking over and taking over until there’s a world empire, a global world empire, run by an elite, who will have their brains intact, their individuality intact. They’ll have life extension and all that kind of stuff, which the rest won’t have, while everyone else, they’ll be a Borg. A happy little Borg, you see. In fact, you can’t really be happy or unhappy, because you won’t know what that is. And you won’t know, even if you were unhappy, you couldn’t even form the words that “I am unhappy”.

There will be no more you. And they can literally reprogram you, every day, to do the different tasks. You could be working in a pig sty, mucking a barn somewhere, one day, and helping to erect a skyscraper the next. It won’t matter to you. And that’s the universal one, the universal consciousness that they’ve pushed through the New Age Movement, for years steadily, to get them all to go for this idea. Oh, we’re all One. UN is the French word, un, for one. What a coincidence, eh?

So this is where it’s all heading. Planned long before I was born, long before every one of you was born. And they knew they had the technology a long time ago to bring it off, because these guys did not claim to use crystal balls. The high levels of science is never known to the public. At the low level of science, which is everything from the media, to the scientific magazines, from professorships down, that’s the lowest bottom, antique level of science.
Physics, chemistry, biology, etc. That’s the lowest level. And the magazines that they churn out there, which make you think that this is the latest, or they’re just working towards this, that’s rubbish. It’s called research, because it’s re-search. The search has already been done before. Why else would you call it research?

That’s the key to this agenda here, the new man to come. The thousand years of peace, you see, when you’re all chipped. And no one can cause any problems. They won’t need the media. They won’t need all the sports teams. They won’t need all the sports commentators to amuse us and pass our time for us, so as we don’t sit and think for ourselves. My god, that would not do, no they won’t need that anymore. It will be one nice silent, humming, buzzing little world. A quiet hum from the massive universal hive, the Borg ship. And the Borg ship, of course, as you see in the Star Trek movies, is the New Jerusalem. It’s the square, it’s a square ship. It’s a cube, like a sugar cube. The hive. It’s the ashlar, the perfectly squared stone. Taken from the natural roundness and squared, perfectly. That’s what it is, it’s all High Freemasonry. And they throw it in our face, and we pop bubblegum and chew and pop the popcorn, and say, “well, that was a good movie. What’s next? Yawn.” Because people today have a terrible time thinking for themselves.

Brzezinski in The Grand Chessboard and in previous books, has told us, in fact, one of his previous books, he mentioned that shortly the time will come when the average individual will be unable to think for themselves. They’ll only be able to repeat what they’ve been downloaded with by the previous day’s news. And we’re seeing that today. People today can’t see the trails above their head, and the planes making the mess in the sky. The reason for it is, they truly believe the media is doing their thinking for them. They’ve given over the right to think and perceive and conclude for themselves. They’ve given it over to the media. So, if the media doesn’t mention it, it can’t be true. I see it, but it can’t be true. So, I’ll take the media’s version, it can’t be true. Ancient trickery. It was used by priests, in ancient times, the same technique. Get between the organ of perception and in between the brain to the conclusion, and you can warp it completely. And this is a science which has been understood for thousands of years.

Look at the symbols in the United States. Look at the symbol of Washington’s biggest erection. And look what it comes over. It comes over the long pool of water below. Because the erection, which gives off the spirit of life, the semen, the fire from the top, that’s how it’s often symbolized. The one they put up after they killed Kennedy, actually has a simulated flame on top of it, and again, with a pool of water to reflect it, because that’s the male and the female. The female is water, who could only reflect the light off her husband, you see. Because, according to them, women have no soul; their gift was given to them to reproduce their own kind, so they were called mother, and matter, and mortar. Same thing. But these characters, these creeps, with the rather exaggerated phallic symbols, mean business. And they have their symbols all around you, right to the oval office; that shadow is cast from that huge you know what, the egg, the cosmic egg. The egg where all things are birthed. Ideas, the Big Idea of Bush Sr.

All sides at the top are in on this plan. All sides. The Zionists at the top are in on it. Because, when you join the high noble orders, your new family is the international brotherhood of the elite. You leave your old family, your old kind behind. You might still walk around as the head of a church or whatever, or an organization, but your other face is reserved for your true brotherhood, the international ones. You’ve been ascended up the ladder into godhood.
So, as they go toward this goal, we watch the death rate climbing through diseases, brand new diseases. One in two will have cancer they say, my God, we just don’t understand it, and they don’t seem terribly bothered about it,

either. It’s caused, you see, through the inoculations, it’s preprogrammed through inoculations. Dr. Salk, from the vaccine, the polio vaccine movement said that himself. He said, yes, there were live simian viruses there, the Simian 40 virus causes cancer. That’s its only function.

So, we have these monsters guiding us, the good shepherds, with their white coats on, smiling at us, doing exactly what Toynbee said, the Professor from Oxford who taught Rhodes Scholars and gave lectures to the international revolutionary committees. He says, we always deny with our mouths what we do with our hands. And they’re still doing it. They smile and they lie, as they actually do what we suspect they’re doing. That’s the good shepherd. If he was a bad shepherd, we’d know what he was up to. He’d give it away. But these guys can smile, and talk nicely to us, and dress in their Masonic suits and ties, with their little tow-rope round their neck called a necktie. That’s the Masonic outfit. That’s his limit, you see. That’s as far as he can go. And they run this system.

And they hide behind cloaks of charity at the bottom. Albert Pike himself said those at the bottom are the outer portico. They’re basically no different than the profane. He said, it’s not necessary they understand the rituals they’ve been through, or the symbols they’ve been shown, it’s only necessary that they think they understand them. And so they’re a good outer cover for charity work and a self-help group, a self-improvement group, you know, that type of thing.

Well, I’ve got five minutes left, so I should mention that for the listeners, I’ve been on a couple of shows since I’ve been on here last. And I’ve been on with Hehpsehboah, who’s got Eye on the Future. That’s the internet site from Vancouver. Eye on the Future with Hehpsehboah. And I’m on with her again on March the 5th, and March the 12th, and I may have some other ones coming up too. I was also on The Edge with Daniel Ott, and that is available from Daniel Ott’s website, TheEdgeAM.com. You can download that for free at the moment. And you can also look into my website, Cutting Through the Matrix at cuttingthroughthematrix.com. And there’s material on there which you can also download for free. For those who want the books I’ve written up explaining some of this occult Masonry, and the symbology behind it, the ritualism behind it, including how your language is encoded, you can get them as well, if you contact the website or you contact me. And I’ll get them out as soon as possible. That’s the one-minute bell up and I thank you for tuning in, and listening to me on Sweet Liberty tonight. Thank You.

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February 22nd, 2006 Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

 

 

Jackie Patru: Alan Watt is with us tonight, folks. And Alan, thanks again for being here tonight. Alan Watt: Greetings from the frozen North.
Jackie: (Laughter) Greetings from the frozen North. Okay. We’re not talking to Santa Claus, right? Alan: No, it’s just the guy who chases the minks out his door.
Jackie: So, how are you, Alan? Alan: Oh, not so bad, really.
Jackie: Not so bad. We were talking, I guess it was this past week, one evening, and we got to talking about this country, the US of A, and how we were all here. We were all born into this, of course, so we believed it. And no matter what goes on around us. No, not we. I shouldn’t say that. Because, there are those of us who are waking up to it, but for so long, and you’ll still hear people say, well, it might not be the greatest, but it’s still the greatest country in the world. You know, we have liberty, we have a constitution, and if you don’t like it, if you say anything, then a lot of people will say, well, if you don’t like it, why don’t you just leave. And what we were talking about Alan, is right from the get-go, the people who came over here. And I would like for you to expand upon that tonight, the indentured servants that came over here, Alan.

Alan: Well, I was going to say first off the bat, it’s nothing to do with false teeth. It’s a law, you see, that they indentured servants.

Jackie: It has nothing to do with what? Alan: Nothing to do with false teeth.
Jackie: Oh. (Laughter)

Alan: You see, it’s all to do with these laws that they passed back in Britain, when they had the Americas and they wanted to populate it with British subjects. And it’s an odd state of affair, when you can be a serf, which is a slave, really. You’re bought and sold with the land. Or you can be charged with a crime, and that’s how basically they got this thing off the go. At one time England only had judges authorized by the high court to try cases, but they needed a lot more men to do these cases for all the new laws they were going to bring in, because they had to pass laws to make sure that they had enough people or criminals, that they could send abroad to populate the Americas. So everything became a crime. They dumped all the peasants off of the land, their common land, it was called, where they could grow their own vegetables, in between working for their masters. And they threw them off their land into the big cities, to start up the industrial era, which was planned hundreds of years prior to that. John Dee writes about it in the 1500s.

Jackie: Did he call it the industrial era?

Alan: He talked about an era where technology and machines, he said, would rise and bring Britain up to an empire. He coined the term the British Empire, which was to be a world empire.

Jackie: Who was John Dee?

Alan: He was an advisor to the court of Queen Elizabeth I and he was also a foreign ambassador to different countries. And he was also a spy for Queen Elizabeth I. And his number was 007.

Jackie: Oh, come on.

Alan: Seriously. That’s how he signed his letters to the Queen. Jackie: 007. Oh, man.
Alan: So everything is in our face. It’s just a big joke to the public. Or at least they’re laughing at us, because we have no idea of history. And if you have no idea of history, you’ll never know how you got to where you are.

Jackie: Oh, exactly. What is, I don’t mean to, and I’m not going to, what is a mall? Over there in Britain? What exactly was a mall? It wasn’t a shopping place?

Alan: No.

Jackie: What was it, Alan?

Alan: Well, a maul was a type of weapon.

Jackie: No, because I was reading a book about India. And that was India under the authority of the British East India Company, the government and the company. Some areas, it was the British government. In some areas it was the company, I guess. I mean, they were all one and the same anyway. But they were talking about a wedding that was taking place, in India, and they were on the mall, it said.

Alan: A mall in that case is the fairway coming into a palace. It’s like a long street or driveway. You get the same in London with Pall Mall, they call it.

Jackie: Yeah, Pall Mall. We had Pall Mall cigarettes here. Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: And I thought about that when I read that. Okay. Now they call over here, we have shopping malls.

Alan: That’s right. A strip. So it would be a strip of land, but it used to be a street, really, leading to a palace or whatever, you know.

Jackie: So, in the 1500s, John Dee talked about the industrial era.

Alan: That’s when they burst out with Rosicrucianism. The sort of precursor, and it’s still the high Freemasonry in a sense. And they talked about, he coined the term and gave it to the Queen, to call it, he called it the Brytish, B-R-Y- T-I-S-H, Brytish Empire. And he said, this will stretch across the world. And of course, it was to be exactly what it is. It was to be a world run by an elite, a dominant minority with the money and the power and the hereditary lineages, and then a scientific elite underneath them, which would basically be the masters of all the peasantry underneath them. So, that’s pretty well what we have with the United Nations, and the Rockefeller, all the different foundations that we know, so, yeah, he wrote a lot about the coming Brytish Empire.

Jackie: Was he a Rosicrucianist? Alan: Yeah.
Jackie: And what is the difference between Rosicrucian, Rosicrucianism and Zoroastrianism?

Alan: Well, Zoroaster was really the precursor of all the religions that we know of. Coming out with the idea of the war, there’s always a war on the planet between two entities, if you like, or two sides of good and evil. That’s different again. It’s a religion in that sense. Rosicrucianism incorporated reason, you’ll hear that coming across through in history, this thing about reason. But it also incorporated the religion that went with it, which was Freemasonry, which is more akin to Hinduism than anything. It’s a caste system.

Jackie: Freemasonry or Rosicrucianism? Alan: Rosicrucian is Freemasonry.
Jackie: Okay, and Freemasonry is a caste system.

Alan: Yes. See, Masonry has a thousand names. A thousand names, but they’re all the same. There’s only one head to the pyramid, one capstone.

Jackie: When you say that, are you talking about all the different secret societies? Alan: All of them.
Jackie: Skull and Bones, and…

Alan: They’re only a higher order of the same society. Jackie: They’re a higher order?
Alan: You find if you go, those in the Ivy League schools, such as Yale and Princeton, and of course in England they’ve got Cambridge and Oxford, these are traditional old families that go there. And they are really a noble order,

so they’re a higher order.

Jackie: What was the one that Clinton was in? It wasn’t Skull and Bones, but there was another one, kind of the counterpart to Skull and Bones.

Alan: Well, he did go to, he was sent off to Oxford in England, as a Rhodes scholar. And there he became initiated into the Oxford Circle, they call it.

Jackie: There’s a name for it though, except I can’t remember it. I don’t think it had. It seemed to me it had something to do with Dog, but maybe it doesn’t. Maybe I’m thinking of dog and pony show. Zoroastrianism, was that Zarathustra, the one that started that?

Alan: That’s what is claimed.

Jackie: And Zoroastrianism is not the same as Rosicrucianism.

Alan: No. At least the old Zoroastrianism wasn’t, no. The original Zoroastrian religion was really an attempt to explain the incredible differences of happiness and sadness, wealth and poverty, cruelty and love that exists within all humanity. You know, the opposites. And so they came up with this idea of a conflicting war, to explain why some people are pretty good people, and other ones are just thoroughly evil. And that really was copied down through the ages by the religions that came afterwards, but perverted too, of course.

Jackie: Okay. So, getting back to these United States of America. Alan: Oh, they had to populate it.
Jackie: You made a statement, and I know that was a very broad statement, but you said everything was against the law. So, obviously they made a lot of pecuniary laws?

Alan: What they did, was for the first time, they made justices of the peace, because they didn’t have enough judges, so they gave lesser members of wealthy families these jobs as justices of the peace.

Jackie: Is that the same as a magistrate?

Alan: That’s right. And so, they didn’t have to even have any law training at all. And in Britain, you didn’t get a trial by jury. You just went up in front of the magistrate or the justice of the peace, and he’d give a wink to the charging officer, and found you guilty of whatever it was, and then you were indentured, which meant you were in servitude for X-amount of years. So, you were sold off to the Americas, and whoever bought you from the ship that you arrived on, paid a fee to the captain, who took his cut. And then, when he went back to England, the captain gave it to the magistrate, what was left. They all took their cuts, right along the line. It was a slave trade, of course. And they were white people that were initially sent over. That’s where the term redneck came from. Initially they used them in the Caribbean countries, and they used to call them red shanks, initially, because they had the short breeches without socks, you know. And they’d work in the plantations. And because the sun was on their back, they’d get the red shanks, the red legs, and then they changed it to red neck. And that’s where that term came from.

Jackie: Now, there were people, weren’t there people who came over here of their own volition, Alan? Alan: Oh, there were people who did, but that was really later, you know.
Jackie: Okay, we’re talking very early, huh?

Alan: Early, right through into the 1700s. I mean, Benjamin Franklin bought his first wife off the ship. She was an indentured servant. Many of these guys bought their wives off the ships.

Jackie: Also, you know, that book that I read, the interpretation of the Constitution, Economic Interpretation. The people that came over here, many people, this would have been later, when they wanted to, you know, really begin to settle the open areas, and they were promised land, remember, Alan. Well, the guys that were already here, and many of the guys that were in the Constitutional Convention, were landowners. And they bought up huge, huge, huge of the greatest, best, land. So when these people came over here, and they were promised land, the land that they were given was crappy land. And if they wanted land where they were actually going to be able to farm and really homestead, they had to pay a high price for the land. And then when they, okay, now they’re going to go out west. Okay? They’re going to go out there and get some good land. Well, the land barons just beat them to it. And they got out there and did the same dog-gone thing out west, Alan.

Alan: Sure. We’re being farmed, you see. We truly are being farmed. You know, like Charles Fort said. We’re being farmed.

Jackie: What do you mean, being farmed?

Alan: They farm us up for their wars, such as in Britain. When the Rothschilds took over they started a standing army. Before that they used mercenary troops. So, then they brought the redcoats in with the standing army, with the Bank of England funding it, and with the right to tax the people, to keep the standing army. And then, from then on, it’s one war after another. And so, they were culling off the population, what they thought were the excess, at the same time those soldiers were winning more land for Britain, for London, really, as they were culling off the soldiers. And of course, the Rothschild companies were supplying all the armaments and clothing, etc. So, it’s a business.
War is a business for them. They farm us up to a particular level when they need us, and they also cull us down with disease and so on, when they don’t need us. Or else, they export us abroad, you see. And that’s the standard technique, it’s even in the economic books. That’s the standard technique that’s always been used.

Jackie: Human capital. Chattel.

Alan: Yeah, and when Rothschild passed the law, he put the bill forward in Parliament, in England. It was called the Corn Laws. And what they did, that allowed the European farmers to dump their grain in Britain, and that put all the small holders out of Britain. And they had to go into the cities, the industrial, the new industrial cities, and work sixteen, seventeen hours a day till they died. You know, they dropped dead.

Jackie: Say that again. They allowed them to dump their corn? Well, who are we talking about, them? Alan: Well, I said Rothschild.
Jackie: No, no, I mean, who was dumping their corn? Alan: The European farmers.
Jackie: Were they being paid for it?

Alan: Oh, yeah. But they were allowed to dump them at cheap prices, and without tariffs. That was Free Trade, you might say, without tariffs and into Britain, and at such cheap prices. I mean, it was all orchestrated by the Rothschilds. And sure enough, all the farmers were suddenly put out of business, and all the farm hands. And they had to move into the new industrial areas, like Manchester, Birmingham, and so on, where they were, you know, paid pennies per week, and worked sixteen, seventeen hours a day. The rest were put into the army. There was no other choice. And that was, I think even Benjamin Franklin, who was an illuminatist. There was no problem about
it. He definitely was. But, because they’re illuminati, they can tell you the truth. They can tell you both sides of the story, you know. And Franklin did say that industrialization was the worst form of a system that he’d ever seen. He said, because he’d witnessed the peasants in Britain, working sixteen hours a day in the factories, walking out of the factories, absolutely tired and staggering, without shoes on their feet, and yet, he was talking about a shoe factory.

They couldn’t even afford the shoes they made. That’s how poor Great Britain was for the people. Jackie: For the people. And that’s how poor that people were who came over here.
Alan: Oh, well, yeah. And of course, when they started up the indentured servitude, they made so many laws that they were getting thousands a week.

Jackie: And even like the Irish came over during the famine. They took them right off the boat, and threw them into the big factories, the sweatshops.

Alan: Sure. And with Ireland too, that was contrived. Because, the oddest thing is, and it’s the oddest story, it’s never made any sense, is that a ship came in from America, bound to dock in Ireland, and then go on to a port in England. Half its cargo was to be unloaded in Ireland, and that’s what they claimed, in came the potato fungus, or whatever it was, that started killing off the potatoes. However, they dumped the other half of the load in England, and nothing happened there, from the same cargo.

Jackie: Why?

Alan: Well, obviously, either somebody introduced something. These guys were scientists back then too. They did have a lot of knowledge, and you find that from the 1500s. But they wanted to move the Irish out. There’s no
doubt. And Jonathan Swift, who wrote Gulliver’s Travels, and who was a high Freemason, who also, and a little side note here. Jonathan Swift, who was an elitist and very arrogant, he did say, let the Irish eat their own children.
That’s what he said in Parliament in England. Jackie: Oh, my God.
Alan: This was a loving thing…

Jackie: And he meant that literally, didn’t he?

Alan: He hated them. And he was talking about the Irish Catholics, of course. And the Masons at that time, at least that branch of them, were against the Catholics. And of course, Swift also in Gulliver’s Travels, wrote a part where Gulliver comes to the island where the horses are very sophisticated and intelligent and aristocratic, and the barbarians are the humans. Now the humans, he coined the term Yahoo. The humans who were barbaric were called Yahoos. And that’s why you have Yahoo on the internet. It’s for the yahoos. It’s a Masonic joke on the people.

Jackie: Not only that, but, you know in Immanuel Velikovsky’s book, Worlds in Collision, I highlighted this, because they said that the Earth was like creaking. And they termed the sound that it was making as Yahoo. And I thought, oh, my God, and we’ve got the Yahoo search engine.

Alan: That’s right. And also, that’s what the cowboys were made to say in the movies, is Yahoo, you know. But they were the base people. And it’s a Masonic mockery, you see. Anyway, getting back to the Irish. People think that the Irish were living on nothing but potatoes, and they don’t realize that the big, big farmers that London had made settle in Ireland, the Protestant type farmers, were the new land lords, basically, had lots of other grain, but the people were not allowed to eat it. And the Catholic Church really helped, because they came in and told them to obey the laws and just starve to death, and be good little citizens, you know.

Jackie: But while the people were starving over there, they still had to tithe. And if they had no money, they brought food.

Alan: Yeah, I know. But it was so, those people, it’s so disgusting…

Jackie: They were living in luxury, Alan.

Alan: I know. And then of course, they also did the same in Scotland, you know. And this is how they contrive things, because they run all sides of everything. They already had the German bunch in as the king and queen of England, the Georges. And Prince Charlie, of course, the descendant of the Stuart lineage, was over living with the Jesuits in France, and Italy in some cases. And they brought him back for the rebellion in 1745. And so, sure enough, he came over to Scotland, and he got a few, just a handful of clans behind him, and he said, we’re going to take over London. And sure enough, they fought their way right down to London, just a few clans, and they were only 30 miles from Darby. London was being evacuated by the elite. They thought they’d had it. And then Charlie changed his mind and went back. That’s when you know that…

Jackie: He went back where?

Alan: To Scotland. So, here he was within reach of claiming London and he turns back. He took the men up to the loneliest bog in Scotland, the north of Scotland, and he went to Culloden House, the big mansion that was a few miles away, spent the night there eating and feasting, and in the morning the Scots woke up with the British, the whole British army, with the Scots lowland regiments too, all lined up with cannon and everything against them. On an April morning, with freezing rain in their faces, and they stood there for four and a half hours solid, waiting for the order to charge, as they were getting shot down with grapeshot. And Charlie never told them to charge. And the reason was, Charlie had vamoosed. He’d gone. He never arrived on the battlefield. He went straight over to the Island of Skye and then they had a ship waiting that took him back to France. But they used that excuse of a rebellion to clear the highlands of millions of people. And sure enough, that’s what they did. In came the redcoats, they cleared the highlands. They got every dirty little old tub that could float, or just about float, and they pressed all these people on, set them off for America, and many of them sunk within sight of the coastline, and their relatives could watch them all going under. And this is how they populated America. This is the real history.

Jackie: Oh, yes. And then it just goes on and on and on, too, because recently I watched a movie, I think it was called Matewan, and it was in Maitwan, Virginia. I might be saying the name wrong, but it was the coal miners,
Alan. And it was a very well made movie. And, basically, what it showed was the control. They went in there. They took the people off the land, the coal companies, and confiscated their land, and then pressed them into service into the coal mines. And there were seven and eight-year-old children in there. This was early 1900s, Alan.

Alan: I know some guys who told me this. They saw it happen.

Jackie: That’s right. And, you know, I remember Tennessee Ernie Ford’s song, Sixteen Tons. It never meant anything to me, because we weren’t taught this in history. But it was, you know, “you load sixteen tons and what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt.”

Alan: That’s right, because it was company towns.

Jackie: “Peter don’t you call me, because I can’t go. I owe my soul to the company store.” And when they hired these people, they lived in company housing, and had to pay rent for it.

Alan: And a company store.

Jackie: Even their tools. The company fronted them their tools, and took it out of their pay. Everything. They went on strike. And they finally, in this movie, and in this particular situation, and I don’t remember the exact date, but they prevailed. About five years later, and this is in the Encyclopedia, when it tells about it, five years later, same place. They struck again. They went on strike. And the government, the federal government brought troops in, shot them, Alan. Coal miners working for a private company, and the federal government brought troops in and shot them. You know, I’ve lived for so long with this dream of America in my heart. And this was one of the reasons I did want to talk about this tonight, because it’s time we give up the dream. It’s never been a dream, it’s a nightmare.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: It is truly a nightmare. We’re going to have to take a break here. (Commercial Break)
Jackie: Alright, we’re back folks. …The address to his website is cuttingthroughthematrix.com. And Alan has three books. If you haven’t, I’ve heard from so many of you, and when you call or when you write, you almost never fail to mention how much you appreciate Alan Watt and the information that is provided. And so, the books that he has written, it puts some meat into, it goes beyond just a conversation. Let’s put it that way. And when you go into cuttingthroughthematrix.com, you can actually read some excerpts of each of the books. There’s three of them.
…Alan, anything else you want to say about that, honey?

Alan: No, that’s pretty well it. And those three books, I could just say that it’s a process. I write in a different fashion, because I try to involve the reader in a formula that wakes them up as they read, rather than just have a dull boring dates and who said what and who did what, you know. That doesn’t work. It does not work. We’ve had this for so long, you know, it doesn’t work. So, I hit them with symbols and so on that are used, that are in front of their faces. They don’t think about them. I explain them to them, and start their minds working for themselves. That’s the process of it. It’s a technique.

Jackie: That’s what we have to do, is start thinking for ourselves, isn’t it? Alan: Oh, that’s it.
Jackie: You know, it sure helps. For those of us who do communicate, and of course, you being on the air with us, because a lot of times things are pointed out, it’s happened to me so many times, Alan, that you’ve pointed out something, that I didn’t, I wouldn’t have even thought about it, if you hadn’t said it, and then suddenly it’s as clear as the nose on your face. So, maybe it’s beyond just thinking for ourselves. It’s that the truth has been, so much of the truth has been suppressed that we’ve all lived in some little dreamland thinking it was a dream, and come to find out, like I said, it’s been a nightmare, Alan.

Alan: Yeah, I always say that. You wake up from the dream into the nightmare, when you realize the reality of what it is all about.

Jackie: Well, and you know, there’s just another thing that was on my mind, when we were talking about this situation there in Matewan. I was thinking also, watching that movie, I was thinking about World War I and the soldiers that fought in World War I were promised a bonus by the US government, and then of course, the depression hit. They never got their bonuses, and they were starving, those that survived World War I. You had them, you know they were limbless, and crippled, and etc, and they weren’t getting their bonus, so they marched, with their families. They took trains, they drove, and they walked to Washington D.C. to plead with the government to give them their bonuses because they were starving, and the military came out and shot at them. I remember, I read quite a bit about it. They were actually camping out in tents. And it was, I think Dwight Eisenhower was maybe one of them that was involved in that. General MacArthur. One of those guys gave the orders for the troops to open fire on WWI veterans, Alan. Now, that’s America, the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Alan: Well, you see, that all came from Britain, because this is the difference too. In recent years, really in the last century, they trained Americans, indoctrinated them actually into the tribal system, that the tribal emblems, the flag, they had all the children reciting with the hand over the heart, you know, a Masonic gesture.

Jackie: Pledging allegiance to a flag.

Alan: Yes, and of course, that trains you to jump up and hear the brass bands, and off you go to war. Whereas in Britain, the people feared the military, because the military had always been used on the people at home. That was

the big difference. They had always been used on the people back home. They had the Drapers Riots in the 1700s, and in the 1800s, when they started importing the cheaper stuff from India, and putting all the cotton mills out of business. They had riots there, and they turned the British military on the people and had mass shootings in the streets. So, Britain was well used to what a uniform meant, you know. See, uniform means one form. When they put on a uniform, they are no longer an individual, they’re a robot who is part of the whole. Kind of like Legion, we are many, but we are one, you know.

Jackie: Yes, well, think about this. They are actually considered, they are considered owned by the government. Alan: They’re private.
Jackie: Yeah. Well, think, I think about the dog tags. Now, see, Alan, something just like that. I mean, we’ve heard about dog tags forever. It never occurred to me, that you know, a dog tag is a tag you hang around a dog’s neck.

Alan: It’s the dogs of war, you know from Shakespeare. Jackie: Okay, but a GI is government issue.
Alan: That’s right. Some would say a General Idiot, too. You’re privately owned. That’s what it means. You’re no longer a member of the rest of the people. You’re a private. You start as a private. You’re owned body and soul. You do what you’re told. You’re owned. That’s what it means. You don’t have any rights at all, that the general population may have, even in common law. You’re now privately owned by the corporation. So, you start as a private. So, that’s where that comes from. But Britain was so used to the dragoons and all the other big regiments being turned loose on the public, that no, you did not worship the military, as they were trained eventually, again only in the 20th century, to worship the military in America.

Jackie: And you know, you still see cars driving around here, with those little China-made American US flags on it. And people hang them out in front of their homes. We had, you know, I’ve got a huge, tall flagpole across the road, which I brought from Illinois. I was the same way. That flag, Old Glory, I loved it, Alan, because it meant so many things to me, that were such lies. But the big laugh, the big joke on the American people after 9/11, and they were selling those little flags, millions of them, and they came from China. China-made. And in case, any new listeners, that might not have heard this or thought about it, but it isn’t an American flag. Think about it. When that flag was, was it, during the Revolution. Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner still wave. The bombs bursting in air. It’s a war flag. It’s a military, it’s a US government incorporated flag.

Alan: It’s actually deeper than that, because it’s a Masonic, Kabbalistic flag. And, you see, they had the first revolution in England, and the English flag became the Union Jack, for Jacob, you know. Jack is also a levi, a lever. You jack things up. You’re a priest. And, of course, you have the Illumined Man, the X over the Templar cross. So, it’s eight pointed, you see. Eight is power and money. That’s what it means in Masonry. And it’s red, white, and blue. And it’s red for fire and revolution and blood, and it’s also white for spirit, and of course the blue is the closest up from black which is law, according to the Kabbalistic system. The next one in red, white, and blue, was America, and of course, Canada was the same with the Union Jack. It’s changed now. And then the next one was France which became red, white and blue. So, that’s their revolutionary colors, really.

Jackie: Somebody said that the US flag was taken from the British East… Alan: India Company.
Jackie: East India Company.

Alan: Yeah, they had it, it’s on a famous, there’s a famous building in Hong Kong, the Palisade, and in there, I don’t know if it’s still there, but they had an actual original East India Company flag. And it was like the early American one, where you had a circle. America had a circle of 13 stars for the colonies, and 13, of course, is revolution and

regeneration, you see, in Masonry. That’s why they waited till they had 13. Jackie: Well, I guess how they made their flag too, huh?
Alan: Yes, and then they had the stripes going across the way. So that was the East India Company’s flag. Jackie: And, of course, it was just coincidence that there were thirteen colonies at that time.
Alan: And what gets me too, you see, is they’d already had international meetings in Europe, as to who was going to bring in the next part of the system, for empire. And they couldn’t use any of the existing countries, because they were all known by the rest of the world that was not yet invaded, as being tyrants and looters for a small clique in London and in Paris, and so on. And so they dreamed up the idea of a new knight in shining armor, that was brand new, and unconnected with the rest of them. And what happened in America was about 55 of the largest wealthy landowners in America, who all had charters to own their land, by the way, from the British Crown, they had original charters from the Crown, those guys, Washington and so on. And they got together in that building, and 33 of them of course, 33 signed their name to it. And they were all high Freemasons. And they barred the general public from coming in. And then they came out and said, we’ve given you a Constitution, you know.

Jackie: You’re talking about the Con Con.

Alan: What a joke. The general public had no input into it, whatsoever. It was a Masonic meeting. Franklin talked about that, quite openly. And you even see Washington with the chair behind him, with the rising sun picture in the background.

Jackie: Yep, in his chair. It’s still there at Independence Hall. Alan: And they even barred the doors and had guards on it. Jackie: They nailed the windows shut, Alan.
Alan: That’s because all temple lodges, it’s called the church with no windows. When they have a lodge meeting, they must have that done. So, it’s such a farce. And that’s why Washington has got his big erection up there, over the water. And the first new, large obelisk, copied after the Egyptians, over water. Fire over water, that’s what it stands for. The male over the female.

Jackie: At the reflecting pool there. You mentioned Thomas Jefferson, and I had read in a bio of him, that he had ordered an obelisk, you know, for his grave.

Alan: That’s right. And most of them did, actually. And when you go across the border, if you look between the border, get off the main roads, and walk along the Canadian-US border, they marked it every half mile or so with a Masonic obelisk about 12 feet tall, all along it. It was a Masonic arrangement made between the two groups, you know. It’s all Masonic. So, that’s the big joke. And then, of course, Franklin, in his own memoirs, and Jefferson, both repeated the same thing, that they saw this as the beginning of a Federation of the World. And they would start with the Federation of the States of America, and that would be the beginning of a Federation of the World, led by Twelve Wise Men. And that’s in their own writings, which surely they must have given you at school. Because that’s in their own memoirs, you know.

Jackie: No, they didn’t give us that stuff at school. Alan: Really?
Jackie: Oh, God, no, Alan.

Alan: What did they give you, John Wayne?

Jackie: They gave you dates and names and places. It was very dry. Maybe that’s why I kept falling asleep in history class. Then after I got out of school, then I became thirsty, you know, for actually finding out what really did happen. And you know, maybe, if there was a true hero, of this country, it would have been Andrew Jackson. Think about it. You know, George Washington, what do you call, chartered the first bank. And that was a twenty-year charter. And it was Andrew Jackson who refused to charter it. There’s a whole book written about that. Well, I mean that, the Coming Battle. There’s a lot of information in there, about, my God, what they threatened if they didn’t get the charter to that bank. And then they tried to, they tried an assassination. And I love that story. I don’t know if it’s true, but…

Alan: Well, what I do know too is, Jackson, and this is the thing too that’s going to happen to us. You see, they had to push the American Indians into reservations. And that’s another M.O. of the same brotherhood down through the ages.

Jackie: And Jackson did that?

Alan: Well, Jackson helped along that. And, of course, Jackson also, they had treaties with the American Indians, up in the Black Hills area, and of course, he wanted gold. And so, he started to encourage all the settlers to move in there, to start the wars going with the Indians. And when they brought the trains through, Jackson put ads in all the European newspapers for the big wealthy gentlemen, the sportsmen, he called them, to come over to the Americas, and they would have these train rides through the prairies there, and along the Black Hills, and all the ammunition they could want, and they would feed them and so on, at the taxpayers’ expense, and they killed thousands and thousands and thousands of buffalo.

Jackie: Oh, they almost made them extinct.

Alan: And that was to get rid of the Indians’ food supply. That was intentional. That’s what it was for. Jackie: Then I take it back. Maybe there is no “true hero” of this country.
Alan: Well, the ones who are heroes were probably dead and never mentioned. Jackie: Yeah, the ones that were killed.
Alan: Yeah, they’d stand up and protest, or maybe they went for their rights, when they were in that blacked-out room making up the charter there, maybe they came up with a protest, and had their throats slit Masonically. But that’s the history. We’re living through a system which uses everybody, all the ordinary people. And they make no distinction between the peasant of America, Canada, or China. If you’re not one of them in the upper nobility, you’re just a peasant. You’re a world peasant. And other writers, including the Russells, and so on, Bertrand Russell, makes that quite plain, you know. They have no identification with the ordinary people. When you look at what Washington came out of the Revolution with, I mean, he came up with, he’d added 20-odd mile of land to his property, during the Revolution. He was a busy guy, you know.

Jackie: Who was this? Alan: Washington.
Jackie: He was. He was land rich.

Alan: He added about 20-odd square miles to his property during the war. And so, they were looking after themselves. And they put all their Masonic symbols up, and people pass it all the time. It’s in all the movies, the obelisk and the water, and there’s Lincoln sitting just like a statue of one of the pharaohs in this four square position,

they call it, in his big chair.

Jackie: And there’s in Springfield Illinois at the state capital, a big bronze statue of him, sitting in his chair. And his nose is all shiny.

Alan: Oh, a shiny nose, eh?

Jackie: People come in there and they drop money into the little fountain there, and make a wish and rub his nose. Alan: Oh really?
Jackie: And his nose is real pretty. You know, it’s, you know how, I guess it’s brass or copper, or… Alan: Bronze, probably.
Jackie: Bronze, yeah. You know how it will begin to oxidize. So, his nose is real pretty. Because that’s what the people do.

Alan: Well, that’s the thing. As I say, the Indians were first. The settlers made real estate out of jungles and wastelands and swamps. Now it’s being taken from them. They’re to be put into their reservations, which are the human habitat areas of the UN. So, everybody is used in turn for the agenda, always.

Jackie: And now they refer to the US as the empire.

Alan: Yes, and of course that started when Britain handed over the torch officially. And again, even going back to the fifteen hundreds, John Dee and his buddy Francis Bacon, wrote about the New Atlantis arriving in the West, which would continue carrying the torch, and sure enough, America took over the tax-paying part of it, and the military part of it, to bring in the New World Order. Once it sinks, China is to be the policeman of the world. And that’s the way the elite have formulated this plan. And they’ve written about it too.

Jackie: For, in case we have any new listeners, you know, I used to get angry when people, in fact when I was first given the book that Ralph Boryszewski wrote, The Constitution that Never Was, I wouldn’t even read it, Alan. I said, this is just another book that bashes our Constitution. …It’s a real hard pill to swallow when you’ve been born into that, Alan. And I know it’s very hurtful, because it was. Well, look how ticked off I got at you. You wouldn’t acknowledge that the Constitution was… I didn’t even want to talk to you for a while.

Alan: And of course, Canada, under Pierre Trudeau, got, for the first time, a charter of rights. And it’s right along the same world agenda, where there’s no mention of private property ownership in the whole charter. And of course, Pierre Trudeau, who became prime minister of Canada, who was also a Rhodes scholar, and a millionaire, because all the millionaires run the Communist side, you see. The elite run Communism.

Jackie: Which is no different than international democracy. Alan: Well, the same boys run both sides.
Jackie: Well, it’s all one and the same plan.

Alan: It’s the same families that run it. It’s the dialectic of pretending you have an enemy, pushing the public between the two, squeezing them, until we come out with the synthesis, the third way.

Jackie: National Socialism, I guess.

Alan: Yeah. We’ve got a fascist elite running a communistic bureaucracy who run the people. That’s the synthesis.

That’s it. And of course, Pierre Trudeau led the Young Communist party of Canada, the Comintern, to Moscow in 1952. He helped with the setting up of the Charter for the United Nations, with Escott Reid and Pearson and Alger Hiss. And then he became the Prime Minister of Canada, and not one newspaper mentioned that he was the leader of the Comintern for Canada, the Communist International. And that’s because it’s all one and the same thing.
Capitalism and Communism are two sides of the same coin. Jackie: Two sides of the same coin, yes.
Alan: And guess who owns the coin? Jackie: Leading us to the third way.
Alan: So, the media is an essential arm of government. Without it, they couldn’t give us this fake reality, you know. Jackie: Well, besides the media, don’t forget the entertainment and music industry.
Alan: That’s essential. In fact, they had a meeting in England in the 1970s, the early ’70s, with the Royal Institute of International Affairs and CFR to decide which company and country would give the culture to the world, the coming world, the New World, and they decided that Hollywood would be the culture creator.

Jackie: There we go. Alan: For the world.
Jackie: We just got our one-minute warning here. So, is there anything that you want to say in about 40 seconds? Alan: Yes. It’s not over yet, till the fat lady sings.
Jackie: Thank you, Alan. It ain’t until the fat lady sings. That is for sure. And this has been going on, down through the ages. And they’re still at, and we’re still here.

Alan: We are.

Jackie: So there you go. Thank you for that. What a wonderful, what a wonderful final statement for this broadcast. Folks, we’ll see you back Wednesday night, next. And thank you for being here, folks. Good night, Alan. Thanks, honey.

Alan: Good Night. Jackie: Good Night.

 

Alan Watt on “Sweet Liberty” (Solo)
January 25, 2006

Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt – January 25, 2006 (Exempting Music and Literary Quotes)

Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This isn’t Jackie as you can tell. She’s got a very bad cold. It’s Alan. Jackie phoned me up about an hour ago and asked me to stand in for her. She’s got a guest there right now. Although next week she’ll be on Monday, Tuesday herself and I think she’s going to talk about some information concerning World War I and the Lusitania.

I have nothing planned of course. I never do. I generally just talk as to what comes into my head first and one topic that was mentioned on the mainstream news last night was interesting and that was the border crossings between Canada and the U.S.

The news reporter–this is mainstream television in Canada, the main reporter was at one of the crossings, and I’m not sure if it was St. Catherine’s or down by Sault St. Marie, but you could see the traffic flowing through without problems and she mentioned that. There were no real problems but there were some regular visitors that were shying away and crossings had dropped because the people thought it was more of a hassle getting through either way. Then of course they brought in the Ambassador to Canada from the U.S. and he said, well, it’s going to be even easier shortly because with the new I.D. card he says you can just scan it through the machine and you’ll be straight through he said.

This new I.D. card which is to be mandatory by 2007, right now it’s actually voluntary. The new I.D. card will have your iris scan. It’s got an active chip in it. It has your DNA in it recorded, your voice print, basically all information about you that you probably don’t even know yourself. You’ll all be glad to know it’s going to be so much easier to get through the border when they have everything about you on this card; and those people who’ve looked into the patent rights of cards, it’s kind of like Monsanto with their seed.

Monsanto is in the business of taking all seeds that have been around for thousands of years and if no one’s patented them they’re patenting them and so people who have those seeds now have to pay Monsanto because Monsanto has the legal right, you see, and we know in this world legality is everything in the system.

When you give your digital image to these people they basically own your rights, so everything is on it about you, even your DNA. I guess that means that legally they own your DNA as well and I’m not joking about this. That’s how insidious and weird the true esoteric legal system is.

I should mention the day as well, this is the 25th of January 2006, and so there’s about a year left for this mandatory eventually I.D. card to come in and you’ll all be so much safer and just buzz through so quickly and it’s all for our own good, of course, because we obviously don’t know who we are.

I don’t know if they showed this in the United States. Probably not, because for a country that has more TV stations than anybody in the world, they certainly do keep you in a box in the U.S., and we [Canada] have far, far more mainstream news about what’s happening within the U.S. than they do in the U.S.

When Mr. Bush and Mr. Fox and Mr. Martin from Canada signed the “United Americas” last March it was shown here for at least 2 minutes on the CBC and maybe 3 minutes on global news, but I don’t think anybody showed it anywhere within the United States itself and that was an official joining of the Americas.

Having so much data in the media doesn’t mean they’re telling you anything that really matters and certainly, of course, that’s the trick of it all. It’s the last thing someone would expect when you have such so-called “free media” that they’re simply feeding you USELESS DATA and trivia generally or propaganda but seldom giving you any truth.

Of course, whatever governments have done in history, there’s always an esoteric for the public and the exoteric–they sometimes give you the truth 50 years after an event and after the official secret act the time has expired and sometimes they won’t. They’ll reclassify it for another 50 years.

For the “free trade negotiations” that were done back in the 80’s, they buried most of the contracts really between the countries involved. That was the precursor to NAFTA and was actually more important than NAFTA because PREAMBLES tell you the meanings of the words they’ll be using in the actual official documents and they’re often very different from the ones you think they actually meant. The free trade negotiations were classified and buried in some underground bunker outside Ottawa and they won’t be opened for another 50 years or so.

By that time, if there are still people around who can think, which I tend to doubt to be honest with you, they’ll gladly show it to you because a future generation doesn’t care what happened in ancient history. You know 50 years today is ancient history and with the Dewey system well underway in the school system.

Any REAL HISTORY HAS BEEN PRETTY WELL CHOPPED OUT and it’s hard to find a student today around 16 who knows when World War I began and finished, never mind World War II, and who participated in it. THIS IS ALL BY DESIGN because they said that any conflicts that might go on down through the generations, because of racial differences or whatever, would have to be removed from the history books. This has been going on under the National Education Association, which is a part of the International Educational Association, and THE WHOLE WORLD HAS BEEN STANDARDIZED TO THE SAME SYSTEM UNDER THE UNITED NATIONS.

We have lots of data to keep us occupied but there’s very little truth that we can use unless we really dig into it and use our own REASONING POWER, because the BIG BOYS WILL NEVER COME OUT AND TELL YOU WHAT THEY’VE REALLY DONE TO YOU, WHAT THEY ARE REALLY DOING TO YOU, AND WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO TO YOU.

Since we are going along in a system which has been here for thousands of years where they have Good Shepherds. Today, they wear business suits. Sometimes in past history they wore uniforms, like Adolph Hitler and Stalin and so on, and we still have our friend in Cuba of course. Through the UNIFORM, which is “ONE FORM,” that’s what uniforms mean – Masonics make “one form” out of many, “one” you see, and one system, one world, all of this kind of stuff.

You’ll find that in our minds we expect to see dictators or tyrants in a uniform who yell and scream at their audience and gesticulate with wild gestures like Mussolini, and that’s why they keep showing us these old cuts every so often. They seem to crop up all the time and that is to condition us this way, so when we see a guy in a business suit and he doesn’t yell and scream (at least not publicly) we can’t see him as being a dictator or a tyrant; and it’s very misleading because they can say things much, much worse than any tyrant has ever said publicly, in a nice gentle way, and the viewers simply are not conditioned or they’re de-conditioned not to actually see what they’re seeing or hear what they’re hearing.

I think Mr. Bush himself said that the Constitution of the United States was “just a piece of paper,” which is odd because I said that on Jackie’s show back in ’98, and it is. No piece of paper can stand up and demand your rights. It’s the people who back it and who want that to be so, who make it so, and if they don’t care, well they don’t care. It is a piece of paper.

THAT’S THE REALITY OF THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.

However, the GOOD SHEPHERDS as I say WHO RUN THE WORLD and it’s not the front men you see, the shepherds; the true shepherds seldom go amongst the sheep. They pay their front men to do that and of course the sheep like the shepherd. They think he’s a good guy. He wears a business suit and even the one in Communist China wears a

business suit.

These shepherds wear business suits and they have nice scripts because they have the best script writers in the world who must have a common education from some strange underground university because they all advise their front men in the same speeches and to PASS THE SAME LAWS WORLDWIDE AT THE SAME TIME. Yet WE NEVER HEAR how come these advisers, who are UNELECTED of course, in any country, we never hear how they get these positions or who trains them and who authorizes them to be where they are, but they do write good speeches. They’re Hollywood type scripts, right down to the pauses that the presidents and the prime ministers make, even the little jokes they sometimes tell – as anyone who watched the movie, “Wag the Dog” I’m sure saw.

We’re living in a Disneyland really, very much so and it isn’t simply because we’ve woken up into Disneyland. Disneyland was here long before Disney.

The ancients knew and anyone who studied the history of India, ancient history, will come across certain princes who moved into India. These are the ones who did call themselves the Aryan race, whom the Brahmans supposedly are descended from, and they moved into the Dravidians – the name given to the people who were originally were there and they knew which religions to use for the particular people they took over.

You’ll find fantastic planning going into the creation of religions specifically tailored for the inhabitants of different areas of India. According to the culture they had at that time, they could actually adapt or tailor-make these religions for the people and the people would in fact obey them. They would obey all the rules they were given because it seemed fairly logical the way it was presented to them. The reason this formula worked then and it works today is that people are trained in one generation to listen today to EXPERTS.

In ancient times it was Holy Men and the Holy Men would be backed up with other priests. They would actually go out amongst the people, teach one generation that the set of rules, the reasons why they must obey the rules because there was a deity either watching them invisibly all the time. Or else, you know they went into the reincarnation thing where you’re poor and destitute because you chose to be so and that’s why you’re in that position, but if you work really hard and lick my boots and if you create anything at all, I want a cut of it or I want a share of it through money.

If you do these kind of things to one who is superior to you, you might just come back in a higher position the next time. Strange as it sounds today, these religions worked very, very well for thousands of years for a SMALL ELITE RULING GROUP and all they had to do was TRAIN ONE GENERATION and that’s all they were taught.

They couldn’t READ OR WRITE. They believed priests and monks and so on, and they had TAILOR-MADE RELIGIONS given to them, psychological warfare par excellence.

Nothing could be improved upon the last few thousand years; in the last hundred or more actually, they’ve been using electronic backups and various other techniques, Pavlovian type indoctrinations to make us “LINEAR THINKING” as THEY CALL IT. Linear thinking is the reason most people can’t ever figure out what’s really happening, even the ones who think they’re waking up. They might catch on to the banking system or the Constitution’s going down the drain, or we’re amalgamating, or we’re losing something, but they’re still really in the higher level of LEVEL ONE REALITY because this planet is far beyond simple changes that are happening today. It’s far more occult than that.

Sciences are used BEYOND THE COMPREHENSION of most people, apart from the very, very advanced electronics which are used, there are other means of applying science or transmitting signals you might say; and where they are scientifically, I don’t believe is just 50 years ahead.

I think the proof in Francis Bacon’s little Essay on the New Atlantis written in the late 1500’s and published in 1602, where he goes into Solomon’s Island, which is actually Salomon’s Island. It’s a play on the word salmon for its red flesh because the color of this agenda is ALWAYS RED. Francis Bacon talks about eventually in the last chapter about getting into the UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS or LABORATORIES where he saw something powering the

“underground facilities” that GAVE OFF THE LIGHT OF THE SUN.

Now today we would say that’s nuclear energy and then of course he talks about going into another lab where they have a machine to control the weather and create hurricanes, storms, droughts, famines and earthquakes, which sound suspiciously like HAARP today. Going on from there, he goes into the genetically modified vegetable and animal area. He doesn’t use those terms.

He says where they take the most miniscule parts of life and work on them and create any kind of vegetable, or, he said, animal – and I PRESUME HUMAN of course, that’s what you’re supposed to come to yourself – and they know exactly how it will end up when they first start the stages of planning. In other words, they weren’t experimenting and doing it for the first time.

When you get these kind of clues from someone who is living in the 1500’s, writing supposedly with beeswax candles and the best form of transportation was sailing ships and canvas, or on land it was a horse and buggy, he’s coming up with incredible stories which a crystal ball couldn’t have told them. He didn’t claim to be a medium, either.

Therefore, it would tell me they had these sciences; and of course to control the world for thousands of years–not just control it, but this world’s been heading along a long set plan, a set agenda, for thousands of years, it would tell you that THEY WOULD NEVER ALLOW THE GENERAL POPULATION TO KNOW HOW FAR AHEAD THEY TRULY ARE.

While the people of the Middle Ages were living in the Middle Ages, those who were controlling the Middle Ages were probably living in what we might say in the 20th or 21st centuries with the sciences that they actually had; and so you get these kinds of proofs popping up.

Lady Queensborough, who wrote about Freemasonry in the 1800’s, talked about one of her friends who I think was an ambassador who went to the Grand Orient Lodge in France, prior to the telephone, met the Grand Master and that’s after of course Benjamin Franklin was the Grand Master of the Grand Orient of France. They were having tea with a silver tea set and he heard a ringing noise coming from the teapot. The guy pushed something. The lid came up and he talked into it and he says, you’ll never guess where I’m talking to? It was some other country across an ocean, so THE TELEPHONE WAS HERE. By the way, it was probably cellular because we don’t think they had wires laid at that time. That came later on. These things were reported and observed back in the early 1800’s.

Lord Rothschild was also reported to have his little ventriloquist box. They had cartoons in British newspapers and that’s what he always pulled out when he was making these big deals such as taking over the Bank of England, because he just knew who won the battle before anyone else did. He liked to talk to himself into this little box you know. Of course, the official version is he had vast fleet of clipper ships that got there before anyone else got the news and then a horsemen rode to London told him who won. He dumped his bonds. Everyone thought that the British had lost and then he bought them all up for peanuts – all very legal, which is always a strange thing I’ve noticed in this system. NO MATTER HOW CORRUPT THEY ARE, THEY TEND NOT TO BREAK LAWS BECAUSE THEY WRITE THE LAWS SO THAT THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT BASICALLY.

Certainly very immoral, but then again if we look at the rule book, which is Old Testament, we have to admit that the old god blessed Jacob for conning his own father into believing that he was really the brother in order to get the blessings. The old father was blind and half deaf and so he dressed up like his brother with a woolskin shirt and brought him his favorite bowl of soup and stew and so on, and then got the blessings and he ended up supposedly being charged with the 12 tribes – which doesn’t mean 12 tribes at all and JACOB DOESN’T MEAN JACOB. Jacob was the sun and the tribes were the constellations; that’s really what it meant, and so he’d broken through into the light to the sun. He became as the sun, and that’s the test of the very highest pinnacle of freemasonry when you hit 360 degrees because that’s what it takes to go around the circle.

Anyway, we’ve been lied to, conned mightily for thousands of years. Every generation has been brought up to believe they’re on the CUTTING EDGE. When they were dying like flies in factories during the Industrial Revolution in Europe when the plague carts went around to collect the dead who DIED OF OVERWORK and malnutrition, often for

working 16 hours per day, including Sundays, by the way. The day off on Sunday came much, much later, but the people in those days thought what else could they do. It’s just the way it was. That’s how we’ve evolved, as they would say in Darwinistic circles, you can help the poor so much but what else can you do for them?

What they don’t tell you is that Mr. Rothschild once he’d taken over the Bank of England – and personally I believe he was brought in by the elite already in Britain to run it more efficiently – when he was created Lord Rothschild he passed the Corn Laws Act, where you could bring in foreign corn and so on and dump it on the British market. It put all the tiny landowners out of business. They were forced then to go into the cities because that’s where THEY WANTED THEM so they could WORK the FACTORIES and everything happens you find in this order.

There’s no happenstance to anything. The people are coerced. THE WORLD IS PRE-PLANNED. THE DESTINY OF THE WORLD IS PRE-PLANNED THEN AS IT IS NOW and whatever you think is happening now, you’re generally wrong.

The media’s job – the media means “THE MIDDLE”. Pyramid is of course “fire in the middle” too. It’s the fire between the capstone and the rest of the world, meaning the body; and the media’s job is to communicate certain data to you to shape your mind on an ongoing basis into expecting the next move, which will seem perfectly natural to us by the way it is explained.

The fact that for instance the New American Century published their agenda in the 1990’s beginning with an attack on Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Iran and then Syria, in that order. The fact that we did hit Afghanistan first after 9/11, the EMERGENCY NUMBER, COINCIDENTALLY of course, and then go into Iraq. During an inquiry Mr. Bush DID ADMIT on Canadian television at least that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with the Twin Tower bombing, he was just a bad guy that was in the way and the world was better off with him removed. Now of course they’re beating the war drums for Iran.

I’m sure they have their own men in Iran because each time he says something about the New World Order or Israel, I’m sure the population are quivering in fear because why would a man bring on disaster when the world’s biggest army is right next door to him ready to move in?

Why would he do this? Until you realize that the old assassins–the assassins were called “Hashishin” [or, Hashshashin] and that’s where the world “hashish” comes from, since that’s what they basically lived on. That was in the Middle East and the Knights Templars in fact joined forces with the assassins and became one. Therefore, I’m pretty sure this guy who’s in charge of Iran and is making these big noises right now at the most inappropriate time is one of their own, and if anything does happen, I’m sure he’ll be picked up or smuggled out, one way or another, before all hell breaks loose. You’ll find that’s how the game is truly played, because wars, as Professor Carroll Quigley said:

“Wars are not intended simply to beat another people, they’re primarily to change the culture of all the participants.”

Therefore, it’s the little people who have to change in the aftermath of war. It changes the culture, such as Britain when it came out of World War II–it went into World War II to fight national socialism and ended World War II as a national socialist country. That’s how it changed it. The BIG BOYS understood that. That was their goal. It’s hard for the average person to ever figure out how it happened and how it came about, because that was THE PLAN in the first place.

Hitler wanted a united Europe. Winston Churchill we’re told now with declassified documents by his personal secretary 50 years after the official Secret Act is up, Churchill spoke many times about a UNITED EUROPE coming out of World War II. Regardless who they decided to win, it literally united Europe anyway.

It’s the SHEEP who must be conditioned for the changes. Not the people who LEAD US to the CHANGES, but the people themselves.

I hear the break coming up, so I’ll keep quiet now while the music plays when it comes on. I may have a minute left here. Anyway, Jackie will be back next week as I say on Monday and Tuesday and I think she’s going to talk about the

Lusitania, which, when sunk, helped to get the United States eventually into World War One.

 

PART 2:

Hello, this is Alan Watt here standing in for Jackie Patru. She will be back on Monday and Tuesday, maybe Wednesday too, by herself doing a talk on the Lusitania, World War I. I’ve been just going through these things that float through my head of course and that’s why I prefer not to be a linear thinker.

To be a linear thinker is to show that your conditioning through schooling has worked because linear thinking is obviously to do with what they call LOGIC and SET FORMATS where you look at a subject. You find out why the subject is the subject, what caused it to be so, what its purpose is, where does it go from here, et cetera, et cetera. It’s a MATHEMATICAL SEQUENCE so when you’re given a problem you think linearly and you come to the conclusion really that’s programmed for you to come to, which is always the wrong one.

IT KEEPS US IN THE DARK. If you’re non-linear you can think–you can jump back and forth between various topics and time and history because it all must be shown together how everything that’s happening today is simply a lead up, or was led up to, by preparations from thousands of years ago. I put some of this in my three books for sale and I should mention them now.

I do some of the ancient history, the pre-Masonic but still the builders, of course, history of ancient Egypt et cetera. I show you much of the Masonic symbolism, although that’s being co-opted by one of the main superstars of shortwave who’s adopted this kind of stuff because they must get themselves put as the superstars so you’ll be led up the garden path; but it doesn’t matter anyway because they NEVER GIVE YOU ANY OF THE ESOTERIC MEANINGS anyway. If you want one or any of these books, or all three, [see www.websitefor ordering information].

These books as I say go up through that. The third book goes into that as well. I show you the big coincidences in history such as the Statute of Rhodes, which was the capital of the BIG BANKING BOYS thousands of years BC, and the Statute of Rhodes of course had the sun god with the spikes coming out of his head. He had his right hand out. Some ancient historians say he held a torch there. There was definitely a beacon there and of course people today will say, gee, that’s a similarity to the Statue in New York, quite near Rhodes in fact, isn’t it? That must be coincidence, mustn’t it?

You’re seeing the same symbols of UNBROKEN POWER from thousands of years ago up until today and you can’t put it all together. That’s quite something because these symbols have been used all down through history through every religion on the planet, every authorized religion, and the esoteric is ALWAYS HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC or the PROFANE as they call it. It’s also HIDDEN from the lower degree Freemasons because you must have “willing fools,” as Mr. Pike said himself, who don’t know that they’re fools. They think they’re there for charity and to do self-help work and all that kind of stuff.

THAT’S HOW THE WORLD REALLY RUNS.

Everybody’s in their little pigeon hole or a tunnel and they don’t know that there’s another tunnel next to them and there’s a whole bunch of tunnels next to them. They only live in their own little tunnel from the day they are born to the day they die.

It’s very interesting if we even go back to the times of Sumer, you’ll see the statues of the priests of Sumer and it’s very interesting that they wore the sheepskin skin around their loins, and of course it’s the same today. The proper Masonic pinafore, the apron, is also made of sheepskin (at least the good ones are); and of course you’ve got to ask yourself if there’s a wolf behind the sheep here, or is that just Viagra? because these guys love to boast and they certainly do.

We have the same symbology down through the ages of the shepherd people, you see, the sheepskin, those who wear the sheepskin and they make the SHEEP AROUND THEM believe they’re ONE OF US. We don’t realize the

shepherd’s VERY DIFFERENT FROM US because the SHEPHERD ACTUALLY OWNS US and we feed him and we clothe him. If the sheep knew that, they’d run a mile when they saw the shepherd, but of course the SHEEP DON’T KNOW THAT. They see business suits and well dressed people who are obviously EXPERT at running things and so we like them, just like the sheep, no different than ancient times.

We give it all to the GOOD SHEPHERDS who are PROMOTED to us, so that we might follow them. The only DUTY you have as a citizen in any country and you’ve got to realize a CITIZEN–the definition is “someone born into a system with preexisting duties.”

In other words, IF YOU HAVE PREEXISTING DUTIES, HOW CAN YOU BE FREE? You see? It takes a little bit of thinking there, but we can overcome that barrier, and so we have preexisting duties. Of course, part of that is ALWAYS TO PAY OFF DEBT, even though Benjamin Franklin, a member of the illuminati, who gives you a lot of the clues, they speak openly because I guess they have to really give you very easy, easy clues. Jefferson said:

“A generation born into paying off the debt incurred from the previous generation are de facto slaves.”

Today, we call it DEMOCRACY and FREEDOM, so it’s quite amazing how we can be told the truth by some of the “illumined ones” down through history and we think, “well, so what, everything is fine, I’m okay Jack. How are you?” WE IGNORE THE TRUTH.

Yes, from the sheepskins of the ancient Sumerian priests, you look at the Pharaohs of Egypt and they wore a cloth around them. You also see it was hung in the middle in a pyramid type shape from below the belly button down to above the knees like a kilt and of course he wore that type because he’s a perfect pyramid. He is at the top of the pyramid actually. The ones below would have to have ones with the flat square because they don’t have a capstone.

Nothing has really changed to today.

What we call “Freemasonic” is to SHAPE and BUILD CULTURE and SOCIETY and MAN HIMSELF. We look at the ancient builders of the medieval times and when they were building up a cathedral, they were also dismantling the old one; so they dismantle the past as they’re putting up the new structure. This goes on and on through all the symbology.

Eventually THEY WILL RESHAPE MAN and it’s not that far off. They’ve got the ability to do it. It’s not because they’re waiting to improve the abilities to do it that they’re hanging on. They’re getting us all ready mentally and psychologically to ACCEPT the BIG CHANGES that are coming in a PHYSICAL REALM, because they’ve ALWAYS said THEIR JOB was to “perfect that which was left imperfect.”

The guide to Solomon’s Temple is the individual “enlightened one” is the temple, you see. You are a temple, but it’s IMPERFECT FOR THE MASSES and therefore they’re going to perfect it. The next type of working type of people they will create will be purposely made for their tasks, just like Brave New World.

Aldous Huxley DID NOT get his ideas from again a crystal ball. Aldous Huxley was the grandson of Professor Thomas Huxley, who was Charles Darwin’s best buddy and he became the champion of Darwinism after Darwin died. Aldous Huxley got his information from inner circles of the ELITE in Britain from the universities and simply wrote them into his books.

He said on his speeches that he knew this would be put into operation, the Brave New World scenario where they will
purposely grow people for a specific tasks and here’s another BIG COINCIDENCE.

We jump back to Plato’s Republic, when Plato in his discourse talks about the creation of a perfect world state where the guardian class won’t have to utilize so much time and energy to watch all the workers and slave populations because

they will purposely make the SLAVE POPULATIONS for their own particular functions. That was called The Republic and that was his form of a utopia. Utopia to them is when they don’t have to give you entertainment, distractions, frivolous wars, that type of thing, dramas, plays, music to entertain us. They won’t have to. We’ll be very, very efficient because they’ll program people after creating them to do their work 24 hours a day. They won’t need entertainment.

Plato himself DID NOT dream up that idea, since Plato was a pupil of Socrates. Socrates of course was forced to drink the hemlock after being convicted and his conviction was they he tried to – he’d been recruiting the elite youth and training them through a secret society to infiltrate the power structure and cause revolution. Socrates and Plato both studied this in Egypt and so you look back at Egypt and you find all of these elite people who went to study there were initiated into the high mystery religions. Then they were sent back to their original countries to set up these little cult groups and train the youth through fascinating stories, which is the same today, of the supposed esoteric (but they don’t tell them the esoteric) and fomenting revolution – all must become one.

“Out of many, one.” Reverse it = One out of many. You might also say “monopoly”. Mono = one, Poly = many, and that’s what the United States has been famous for is the creation of monopolies, “E Pluribus Unum”.

This has always been their agenda. You see it all down through history if you care to look. It is not a coincidence and we’re dealing with something here which is obviously, very obviously does not think in completing any ONE THING in a LIFETIME, a human span. We’re dealing with SOMETHING which can make incredible plans thousands of years into the future, right down to the finish dates too; and IT obviously also always knew the wisdom of the past, meaning the study of human nature, for thousand of years in ancient times, to plan out a destination to bring mankind culminating into a world order, a New World Order, which of course in a coincidence Papa Bush mentioned September 11, 1990. All these coincidences are just tripping us up everywhere.

We’re dealing something which is beyond simply the human. It does teach humans as well, of course, the little workers they have, in a religious format because there’s a religion behind this – a definite religion. That’s what motivates natural man is DEDICATION TO A RELIGION, especially when it gives members SPECIAL PRIVILEGES in this world; but whatever is behind it, as we know, doesn’t worry about dying in a generation or so, that’s fairly obvious.

It’s also obvious that humans are not apt to plan something a generation ahead and carry it out. Other things crop up. Finances have to be pushed elsewhere. Unexpected things happen and people just get plain tired of it. There’s SOMETHING HERE DRIVING THIS GENERATION between one to the next to the next and the next.

If we look at the cathedrals of England and Europe, we realize that these cathedrals took five to seven generations of stone masons to build through famines, through plagues, through crusades where the money was getting taken to go off abroad, massive money from the public and yet this AGENDA to build the cathedrals NEVER CEASED. Never ceased and architects today – trained architects to go over to study these cathedrals in Europe are flabbergasted at the sciences which were used to bring these inner dome vaults et cetera together. I don’t know how many of them, I’m sure the Masonic ones did, but I don’t know how many of them noticed that really these arches within these cathedrals and their big beams and all the rest of it are simply a sculptured form of nature, because it’s showing you a grove. These cathedrals inside simulate the tree grove it seems and the ability to put all of this work together, incredible creations, is almost beyond the modern architect and builders societies and so on. They couldn’t do it so well.

We’re living with all of these amazing coincidences and we’re taught at school we’re on the cutting edge of science and civilization and who knows what we’ll discover next that’s going to push us in a great leap forward. When in reality, the sciences that are HIDDEN FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR AT LEAST 500 YEARS AND PROBABLY LONGER.

We look at the explosion of micro-circuitry that first appeared in wristwatches back in the 1970’s, which flourished overnight. The markets in all countries were dumped with these cheap watches which were battery operated and kept perfect time, digital readouts and all the rest of it, and played about three or four different tunes et cetera and put the Swiss watch making businesses out of business OVERNIGHT. I saw many of my friends buying them and what

amazed me was none of them were stunned as to where this technology had suddenly come from. They take it for granted. You see, most people take everything that happens for granted. THEY DON’T QUESTION IT.

Most people alive today lived through the BIG TRANSITION of all the major industry in the world over the last 15 years to China and yet very few were conscious of it. They dreamed through it and now they simply think it’s normal that everything is made in China. People don’t really live through their life.

Living means being a sentient being. Sentient is awareness and PEOPLE WHO DON’T ASK QUESTIONS are obviously NOT AWARE; and Plato, jumping back then in non-linear thinking, of course, Plato himself said, “we create culture.”

He said we can give opposites–he’s talking about the elite of course in ancient times. He says, “ALL CULTURE COMES FROM THE TOP.” Culture that came out from the bottom could upset, have a ripple effect and destroy everything, the unpredictable, you see, so all cultural changes are from the top down; they’re permissible and PLANNED BY THE TOP and implemented and of course the people who see the culture changes through generally music according to Plato.

Today it’s much music. Then it was just roving musicians. They had roving troops of drama players and of course he said “people mimic what they see on stage.” The general public generally mimic what they see, the fashions and so on. Plato said, we can literally change the culture and all of its values in a completely opposite direction within one generation and in that generation there will hardly be one person who was actually conscious through the transition; and that is true today. It’s no different today.

The public go through the transitions WITHOUT NOTICING them, even if the skirt goes from the ankle to halfway up the thigh in one generation. It’s somehow normal and it’s normal because it’s approved from the top, because anything that was not approved from the top, believe you me, would be nipped in the bud before the public even heard about it. If you wonder why pop stars who help bring in the drugs, sex, rock-n-roll, which eventually destroyed what was left of the family, were getting knighted by the Queen.

You know the Beatles “Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds,” LSD, who turned on millions of people into drugs got KNIGHTED for helping what? What did they help in the system? What we know is of course that they had to destroy the remnants of the family unit by creating promiscuity, which they’d planned in the 1800’s.

H.G. Wells was promoting “Free Love” they called it in 1885. Free love—but they didn’t have the contraceptives and the fallout was disastrous, so they went back to the drawing board and had all the scientists work on the contraceptive pill, so they put that out forward with the National Health Service, which gave you free abortion and penicillin for the diseases, and we applied it, using music, the traditional Plato thing, you see. Fashion, the mini-skirt and formulas. These are simple formulas and they worked very well. The public didn’t notice the change. They never thought why did it come this way. Where does fashion come from? Who authorizes fashion? And fashion remember means “to shape,” so it’s Masonic you see as everything else in this world is.

Uniform as I say–people in uniform are “one form” and that’s why armies have been created for thousands of years and once again you’ve got many acting as one. They’re drawn from the ranks of the people at the bottom. “Drilled,” just like miners in a sense, because that’s where drilling comes from. Square bashing – it’s Masonic so they walk the square. The drill on the square and they are “one form” when they are ready and they’ll do whatever they’re told, even if it means going and bashing the parents on the skulls with the butt of the guns, they will do it, because all of this is done before down through history. Here is this music coming, so I guess the time is growing to a head. Well, I’ll end with that rant and it’s been pleasure to talk to you. It’s non-linear thinking, which I enjoy of course.

 

(Transcribed by Linda)

June 7th, 2006 Alan Watt on
“Sweet Liberty” with Jackie Patru

 

 

 

Jackie Patru: Alright, well, we’re going to get started here. Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and thank you for joining us on Sweet Liberty. I’m with you tonight with Alan again, Alan Watt. Today is Wednesday and it is the 7th of June. I almost said May, Alan. It’s the 7th of June in the Year 2006 folks. Our spiritual message this evening, “There is no veil the love of God in us together cannot lift. The way to truth is open. There is no veil the love of God in us together cannot lift. The way to truth is open.” It is too, isn’t it, Alan?

Alan Watt: Yeah, sometimes you need a crowbar. Jackie: Yes. Yeah, you’re the crowbar.
Alan: That’s it. And you’ve got to do a lot of huffing and puffing. Jackie: HR, what was that bill we wanted to mention?
Alan: I think it was 4752IH.

Jackie: 4752IH. Folks I know there are a lot of, I understand, a lot of other broadcasters talking about this, and we’re not going to spend the evening on it, but I wanted to bring it up for those of you who might not listen to a lot of other broadcasts. This bill, HR4752IH, I don’t know what the IH stands for Alan, but that’s the way it was listed on the Thomas, on the government website. And folks, this is a bill that is proposing to draft all men and women in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42. Men and women between the ages of 18 and 42, and you know Alan, the way the bill reads, I was going to print it out. It isn’t a real long one, and share it with our listeners, but our internet listeners can go to the Thomas site and put that bill number in and it will pull it up. But it’s, those who don’t

go directly into the military would be drafted to do some type of “community service”. And basically, we’re just talking slave labor here Alan.

Alan: I think it’s stated as or serve at home or other. In other words it didn’t specify what the other is.

Jackie: Exactly. Exactly. It’s wide open. And I just, the important thing here folks is those of you who have young children or teenage children, it doesn’t matter, they should never sign up for the draft. They should never register for the draft. And when the card comes it says that you have to do this it’s the law. And then if you read the frequently asked questions, well, what would happen if I didn’t register for the draft, it says, Alan, you may be fined, and you may go to jail for whatever. They don’t. They can’t jail you. And then they say you can never get a government grant. See, that’s the big deal. That is the hook, and that is the only hook. And of course, there are many states and this happened, it’s happened some time ago, that have actually added the requirement that if a young person goes in to get a drivers license, they have to sign up for the draft. Their registering to get a drivers license is considered registration for the draft. And if they aren’t willing to sign that, they don’t get a drivers license. Now, this to me should have people stop and think, well, if it is a federal law, why do the states have to do this? And you see, to me, that’s just more confirmation. But the Selective Service Act is under Title 50, and Title 50 is not what they call positive law. There’s no legislation that has. It’s the same as Title 26 which is the, or may Title 27 is the IRS, is that, you know, the income tax, but there’s no implementing legislation for that. And they used Title 26 to implement the income tax. They use all the implementing legislation under Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.

Alan: And what’s even more ominous is the fact that they’re going to, or that they want to put this draft through, because it tells you it’s not just to do with Iraq. See, it’s much bigger. And it’s an ongoing thing that they’re looking at obviously when they need so much human power there, to do their job, which could last for who knows how long, donkey’s years.

Jackie: Well, you know I had a call from Bob Peters just before we went on air. And he was listening to Al Adask, who’s on First Amendment Radio, just prior to this broadcast. And he said, Al was talking about, you know, contractual law and etc. And I said that I wanted to mention this draft bill. He said that, you know, Al, he believed Al had been talking about it also. And what Al was mentioning Alan was that they’re talking about sending prisoners over to Iraq.

Alan: Oh, okay. Well, that’s quite, see, that’s what they did in Britain for centuries. They would draft them right from the prison. In fact, the courts at one time, even on petty offenses used to give you the choice of joining the army or going to jail. That was quite standard in Britain. So, I guess it’s the same system.

Jackie: You know, I was thinking about that with all these illegal aliens. How many of them do you think have been drafted into the military, Alan?

Alan: That’s open in fact. They’ve had that in major newspapers. They’ll give them citizenship if they serve so many years in the military. And even in the Civil War, they had scouts out in Europe and Scandinavia to recruit people to come over and fight in the Civil War. So, there’s nothing really new in that.

Jackie: No, nothing new in it, but it’s new in our time right now, isn’t it? Although, I have a book here, in fact it was mentioned in Doug Reed’s book, controversy of Zion, and I was able to find the book. And now, I cannot recall the name of the book, but I was able to get it through Abe books. And it was a woman who wrote the book, who had served in the United Nations after WWII, and she was in one of the internment camps, or they don’t call them internment camps but relocation camps. And mostly, all that were in the camps where she was were Poles. And she said that some of them were actually killing themselves rather than go home, because the Soviet Union, of course, had control over a lot of, you know, their living space. And they just wouldn’t go home. They would hang themselves and cut their wrists and do anything. But what they were trying to do was find homes for these people. And she couldn’t figure out why the US wouldn’t let any of these people in, because a lot of the countries were.
They were taking healthy people, healthy people that they knew would be able to get work and not become a ward of the state. And so there were some requirements, but many, many people were finding homes in other countries. Well, then the Korean War came, Alan. And suddenly the US government opened up its arms to those Poles, and

the requirement was, it was right in her book, they had to serve two years over in Korea, and then they could come to America. So, they were willing to risk their lives in a war to come to the land of plenty. The land of the free and the home of the brave. So, that is in our lifetime in a sense. It’s very recent history. And we were having a conversation last night, and I said, I think we better quit this right now, because our listeners need to be in on this conversation, and would you share with them what you were discussing.

Alan: It was about the global warming I think, wasn’t it. Yeah, it was, the global warming is a weird, we all parrot this because it’s said all the time, it’s mentioned in so many articles as though it’s a fact, you know. And we do know from even in school, when I was about seven, it was in the old geography books at the time, that the earth goes through warming and cooling periods. And in the Middle Ages for two hundred years at one point, they didn’t build fireplaces inside the homes because it was so warm. So, we go through these cycles. However, with the global warming, you’ve got to think the South Pole would be melting too. How come it’s all to do with the North Pole melting? And then I thought about the Star Wars project. Everyone has forgotten about it. But they put I don’t know how many of these war type satellites into space, which can basically fry any continent if they want to. And when you look at what we’re told, that the Pole is melting and it’s all slipping into the sea, and since the prevailing wind across America and Canada, the US and Canada comes from the West, technically we should be cooling as this colder water, or the ice hits the water and cools the water.

Jackie: Oh shoot, it would, wouldn’t it?

Alan: Yeah, it should bring it across the land. And yet, the land is warming at the same speed, if not more, which would tell me that something is basking the Northern hemisphere, at least this part in something which is causing the heat. The land as well as the sea. But it’s not affecting the Antarctica.

Jackie: Well, then we have the connection, when you had said at the one time, and folks, I don’t, if you haven’t seen Alan’s videos at his website at cuttingthroughthematrix.com, it’s linked from Sweet Liberty also, but if you haven’t seen it. What is the name of that last one? The one about the clouds, Alan?

Alan: It was Peeping Through the Clouds.

Jackie: Peeping Through the Clouds. You, sometimes when you would talk, and this has been going on for so long, and you’d say, oh my God, are they spraying again. And how mushy the sky looked. And we just don’t, we do get sprayed, but nothing like you were describing. And then you said, last year, the high temperatures made probably, I don’t know how high they broke the record, but where you’re at, to get up to 115 degrees in the summer is an anomaly.

Alan: It certainly is.

Jackie: And you had mentioned, that you thought the possibility is that they’re using the HAARP technology. And that you’re right in the path of it. And that that would be why you’re having the warmer weather. And then when I was talking to a friend about it, and all of the spraying, I couldn’t figure out Alan, why are they spraying out in the wilds up there. And he said, probably, that’s why they’re spraying so heavily, because of the barium. And you explained that, that those metals are actually light refractors, and heat refractors of the sun. And so now, I don’t know, it just all makes sense to me.

Alan: Yeah, see the only way their theory that they try to spin it, we might be trying to save the planet. We get these little hints. We may be trying to do things about it. They’re maybe going to start weather manipulation to stop global warming. This is in the newspapers. And they’ve been doing it for years. And the patents go back for donkey’s years, anybody that wants to check out the different patents on all this stuff. And this theory of reflecting the sunlight back out into space, would only work if the particles somehow were weighted so that the shiny part is facing the
sun. But it’s not, you see. These things are spinning and tumbling, and they’re mirrors, and they’re reflecting the light back and forth millions of times before they hit the ground and it’s keeping the heat in. That’s just it. It’s doing the opposite. So, they’re causing the global warming.

Jackie: Well, the thing is, we can’t even count on what they’re telling us, that there is global warming. I mean, you know, all the floods and the droughts and everything, and even when it gets extremely. We had freezing weather on the 22nd of May. And frost on the 23 of May. That isn’t warm, Alan. But they say, oh, well it’s all part of global warming. And I know I’ve said this before. I am going to repeat myself, because I do know that we have quite a few new listeners, since you’ve been on Coast to Coast. But, Professor Patrick Michaels is the guy that, the professor in Virginia, University of Virginia, I believe. I happened to hear him talk at an ALEC meeting, the American Legislative Exchange Council, which is an association for allegedly conservative state legislatures. And he was talking to the State Legislatures. He had overheads. He said first of all that not only is there not global warming, now, this was ten years ago, but he said, not only is there not global warming, but the real temperatures are showing that the means nighttime temperature is slightly higher. He says, that makes for a very lush planet. But he said, they take artificial readings, and they take those readings where you’ve got a lot of tarmac, like from the airports and that.

Alan: In the cities.

Jackie: Yeah, it’s artificial heat. And he said, now with the satellites, they know what the temperature is. And at that time, anyway, there wasn’t any global warming going on. But one thing he pointed out, as cold as it is at the Poles, they say, well, if the temperature drops one degree, we’re going to have global warming and it’s going to do all kinds of terrible things. He said, if it’s 45 degrees below zero and it goes up one degree, it’s still at freezing. And it’s just, none of what they’re saying in other words, it just doesn’t, it doesn’t fly.

Alan: There’s a funny science program going on. And there’s no doubt it’s all to do with Science, plus, every effect they’re talking about can be caused by the HAARP in conjunction with the spraying. And that’s the ominous part about it. We see the spraying going on all the time. And they admit in the HAARP treaty that they signed at the UN not to use it on other countries. They admitted they can cause drought or flood, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, and they can also dissipate natural clouds or create them. They can do one or the other.

Jackie: Droughts or floods.

Alan: I’ve seen both happen. Sometimes the sky will turn black, and you’re sure you’re going to get a thunderstorm, and then you hear the jets above them, and within an hour, it’s all cleared up and it’s this steely misty polymer type blue. So, they can do either. They can cause that or dissipate the clouds. And also, it’s in the treaty too. They can bring the jet stream right down to ground level. Well, the jet stream loops right where I am, and goes back down into the States. So that’s why they’re using this part to spray heavily. It carries it all the way back down into the States. It covers a wide area.

Jackie: And the satellites. I made a note here, because when you mentioned, you know, the Star Wars, Jim McCanny, when he was on with us after Katrina. He said that they literally were steering the hurricane, and of course, you know, either the way the Weather Channel, the way the weather reporters, they’re showing these hurricanes making turns.

Alan: I know, right-angle turns.

Jackie: Yes. And he said that they’re doing it from the satellites, and he said basically what they’re doing is beaming the electromagnetic energy down, right in front of the eye of the storm. And it attracts the eye of the storm, and they just lead it around, like you’ve got a ring through a pig’s nose.

Alan: In fact, if you superheat the atmosphere in front of it, it attracts it, just like a magnet.

Jackie: Right, exactly. That’s what he said. And they can make it go any dog-gone place they want. And so, this makes sense too, you know, that that technology is part of it all.

Alan: It is. And of course, they’ve tested out maybe three years ago, there was, it was in the newspapers, this odd series of meteorites that went across the sky from Canada into the States. And from Vancouver I think, all the way down into Washington. And they said it set off fire alarms across the whole territory. Not fire alarms, car alarms,

with explosions. Then the next day they had all these experts on trying to tell us what it was, what they thought it might be. It was all very vague, except they thought it was probably some kind of strange meteor. And there was nothing more said about it. But it was a series of explosions in the air. And then, in Australia, a week later, they had the same phenomenon happening over one of their major cities, exactly a week later. And what they were doing, I think, is using the satellites to superheat the atmosphere which explodes that part they’re concentrating on. And that’s what they really have been doing. Tesla, himself, stopped his tests with the standing wave technology, because he said, it would be possible to superheat the atmosphere to such an extent you could cause a flash fire across the globe.

Jackie: Yes, and he said he could split the earth in two.

Alan: So, this is what they’re up to. It’s advanced sciences that are at play here. We’re kept in a level one matrix, where the news gives us our supposed facts, but there’s higher levels above all of that. And we never get told even the second level until fifty years later. Yeah, that’s standard. So, it’s high, high technology at work.

Jackie: So, how’s your weather right now, speaking of the weather.

Alan: Well, there was a deluge a couple of hours ago. And it’s stopped now, but it’s coming down just like a Monsoon.

Jackie: Well, one of the things that, you know, I noticed this several years ago, when we had the summer sun. This would have been probably around 2000, 2001. The sun was so extremely hot. And even if it was 80 degrees it wasn’t the heat, it wasn’t the heat in the air, it was the heat of the sun hitting you. And I noticed this. And then I would mention it to people, and a lot of people agreed, you know, that they had noticed the same thing. It was abnormally hot. And how would they do that Alan? Would that have to do with the spraying too?

Alan: Oh, I’m sure of it, I mean, I notice when they’re really spraying heavily, and there’s different kinds of sprays. You’ll see them. There’s a long white ones that end up sort of like herring bone that’s splayed across the sky. And there’s other types that are a sort of light pale blue. That’s the polymer types. It’s like looking through a plastic, clear plastic barrier, you know, vapor barrier type. That’s what it looks like from the sky. And these light blues ones spread very quickly and create the polymer type effect. So, there’s different kinds that they are spraying across, sometimes in conjunction with each other at the same time.

Jackie: Something I wanted to say here, just as a consideration for our listeners. I don’t know who I was talking to the other day, and they said that evidently, I don’t know where the information came from, so I was just told this, that 70% of the sunscreen today had chemicals in them that are known to be carcinogenic. And I just wanted for our listeners to maybe do a little bit of research on this. Be careful what you’re putting on your skin, folks. When we’re talking about summertime, people believe that if they lather themselves up with sunscreen they’re going to be okay, and it’s just like, you know, the mosquito stuff with that D in it, whatever that, it’s killer stuff. And so, folks, don’t think just because you’re putting sunscreen on that you’re necessarily protecting yourself from the sun, because the sunscreen itself could be very dangerous too. And we need sunshine. Isn’t that the pathetic thing, Alan?

Alan: Yeah, we do.

Jackie: We need to be in the sun. The sun is life giving. And yet, we just have to be careful and not overdo it, and be careful of what we’re putting on our skin. It’s the largest organ in our body.

Alan: But with all the spraying that’s going on, I think it’s best to keep covered, because that stuff is all coming down. There will be a link going up on my website, the Discovery Channel, to do with weather modification. And they were talking about these tiny nanorobots that they can put out of planes, billions of them, and they’re so tiny, they can go into your eyes and you wouldn’t even know that they were there.

Jackie: A nanorobot.

Alan: Nanotechnology. These are tiny little, basically little computers in a sense. They’ve had them for…. Jackie: And there have been movies.
Alan: They’ve had them for donkey’s years, it’s just that the public have never really, we’re the last to be told. When they tell us it’s actually almost obsolete.

Jackie: And they actually had it on, it was the Discovery Channel?

Alan: They had a program to do with weather modification and that was part of it. They showed a test tube with so many of them inside this little test tube. And these were a bigger type. He said the other type were so tiny. And the question was asked apparently on the program. And someone asked, what happens if you breathe them in, and I think the answer was, you might cough them back up. You may cough them back up. And I wouldn’t be surprised that if these things are so tiny they can pass through the alveoli, the little air sacks in the lungs, into the bloodstream. I wouldn’t be surprised at all.

Jackie: What do these little nanorobots do, Alan?

Alan: Well, I think on this particular program they said they were some kind of transmitter. There’s very little we can believe as far as the reasons that we’re given go. We do know that other areas of science have admitted that these tiny nanorobots could be used to even reconstruct the inside of your body, because they can link up like a whole series in for a circuit, and create more of themselves, even, from materials they can find in your own body. So, this is very advanced stuff. And yet, and yet, it’s old technology.

Jackie: It gets so far out that, you know what my thought is? What the hell? I mean, you know, sometimes when you talk about these things it gets people afraid. And, I mean, being afraid would be useless. It would be as useless as worrying. Because, we then, we would just be living in fear. And I guess that comes back to where we are in our own minds with who we are. Are we a human being or are we a spiritual being? And is Planet Earth it? The 3rd Dimensional World here. And I think it could be real frightening to people to hear that kind of stuff.

Alan: And yet that’s what they’ve got. And what gets me, it tells you that if they can make these things, which are pretty well atomic size, what kind of equipment do they put it together with? And how long have they had this for?

Jackie: You want to know what Mars wrote about when he wrote about these things? He wrote about that new arenas they’re building. Well, Alan. Take a look at them. It doesn’t seem like a reach. Now, I’m not, to me. I mean, I don’t. How am I saying this? How do I want to say it? I believe that Mars has inside information, let me put it that way.

Alan: Well, he was in that field in the military and he wrote a lot of stuff for the technological societies for years before he took his present job.

Jackie: But basically, his present job, right, thank you for that. But basically he said that those stadiums are large antennas, giant antennas. And he talked in that article, in that particular newsletter about the nanotechnology and these little robots. And when you mentioned them being transmitters. They could be receivers and transmitters, Alan.

Alan: Sure they can.

Jackie: To where our own thoughts or every word could be being sent someplace. We have to take a break here. And folks, we’ll be back with you in about three minutes. And stay with us.

(Commercial Break)

Jackie: Before we get started back here with Alan folks, every time I hear that commercial for the DVD, on the Civil

War, I think about it. It was a war to enslave us all. But any of you, who haven’t done research and may not know the true actuality of the Civil War, it had nothing to do with, you know, freeing the slaves. And they certainly did with the 14th Amendment, they created actually in a sense a Constitution within the Constitution. I never really understood that until when I owned my business, Alan, and we had those human rights cases starting hitting us, I said at one time I wanted to have a trial jury. And they said, well, you can’t. I said, what do you mean, I can’t? Isn’t this America, aren’t we? Well, yes, but this is under the 14th Amendment. The human rights commission is a 14th Amendment bureaucracy and you can’t have a trial. And every case that I had to defend against, all of the briefs were based on the 14th Amendment. So, I just wanted to say that.

Alan: Getting back to that arena thing that you mentioned, back in the mid-90s, that’s the first time we heard of all these emergency plans and agencies that are interlinked with each other from local to federal level, and they were having practices even in Canada, and rural areas, for these emergencies, and we were saying, what’s going on here? This was before 9/11, and the Cold War was supposedly over and all that kind of stuff, and now, they start all these things. They didn’t have them even during the Cold War. And yeah, I remember going into a little town called Allison, and there’s all the fire guys there, and the police there, and people pretending that they were injured and they were giving them first aid, and it was a mock disaster. And I said, well, something is coming. They all knew something was coming. And then of course the media went into action and they showed you these emergency command centers where they’re all interlinked, right down to the local level, and I thought, it took them years to plan all this and get this thing up and running with the bureaucracy, etc. So, what plans? Well, we know 9/11 came along, and then it all made sense. Isn’t it interesting that during the 90s at about the same time, that’s when we first heard that sports arenas would be used for people who would be moved from their disaster areas.

Jackie: Oh, my. And look what happened in New Orleans. Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: I found an article, well, I subscribe to USA Today and New York Times, the Toronto Star and the Washington Post online, and I run down and take a look at their headlines of the articles, and this, I found this interesting. It’s a little off our course here, but mentioning Katrina, there was an article in USA Today that said after Katrina that there’s a higher white population and a much lower black. And I thought, the first thought that came to my mind was they are doing a little ethnic cleansing, huh. Because the white population I think increased by like 20 some percent, from 59 to 70 something. And the black population decreased at least as much, so we’ve got a 40% difference going on there. And 90,000 they said of those people are still living in Houston.

Alan: So, sure, they kill a lot of birds with one stone, these guys.

Jackie: With everything they do. Like with the War Between the States, the more you realize how much they accomplished with that, they just, they have, they’re multi-layered, aren’t they, Alan?

Alan: Oh, absolutely. As I say, we’re still on the level one here with the six o’clock news version. And there’s so much going on it boggles the mind. Even on top of all these big cell phone towers, they have these arrays of antenna. They’re like old-fashioned antennas you’d have for your television on a roof. Only there’s maybe three or four of them in different directions. And that’s the same pattern with the HAARP installation up in Alaska. So, I think they have a grid across the country with this type of technology.

Jackie: Some mini HAARP things, going on?

Alan: Yeah, they’re right on the top of every one of these towers that you’ll see.

Jackie: Okay, that brings to mind, and I don’t know if you mentioned this on the air. Something on the news there, and I think they did a few minutes on it, where they actually had cameras that could photograph the energy coming off all of these, all of these antennas and that. Did you talk about that?

Alan: That’s right. It was on the CBC.

Jackie: Well, tell our listeners about it, because I think it was one of our off-air conversations.

Alan: It was a doctor in Toronto. Different doctors now form their little associations to do with this new, the new symptoms that are coming out with the microwave technology that’s being used. There’s multiple symptoms, physical symptoms, that certain people are feeling, and some of them had to move out of the city to get away from all of these little antennas they put all over the big buildings in every street and back alley. And…

Jackie: It’s for the cell phones, isn’t it, Alan? Alan: For cell phones, that’s one.
Jackie: Allegedly.

Alan: And eventually it will track your ID card, wherever you go, but she had a meter there, which could gage the strength of the signals, and she said, wherever you go here, it’s off the scale, you’re being pulsed with a high energy and this is a real energy here that’s going right through us. And then they showed you how it would look, where she was standing if you could actually see the infrared. And the infrared doesn’t come out in a circle from the source. It actually comes out and it’s like spiky, very spiky.

Jackie: Oh, wow.

Alan: And they’d interviewed some of the people who had been effected by it and had different symptoms from lethargy to various other problems with different organs in their body, so people are being effected by this, this pulsation of energy all around them.

Jackie: You mean diseases of their organs?

Alan: Yeah, and some people, as always, they’ll be more susceptible than others, but I think ultimately, if you’re exposed to enough of it, it will have effects anyway.

Jackie: Oh, sure. Exactly. It maybe hits some people or shows up in some people sooner, but just because somebody isn’t feeling the effects doesn’t mean it isn’t going on there.

Alan: Yeah, these are tremendous energies unleashed here and we’re walking through fields of them all the time, and it will take its toll. And I don’t believe at all that they’re just finding out now what the effects would be, because we’re so far behind on this level reality. They know this stuff, long, long ago, how it would affect people. So, but it will eventually track the cars. That’s why they’re putting them up all over the high-rise buildings everywhere.

Jackie: Well, they have those cars with what do they call? TeleStar something. They can tell you where you are any minute.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: Any second. And if you come to a traffic jam, this is why people think they’re so cool. You come to a traffic jam, they’ll tell you where to go to get around it. Oh, my. And you know this, Alan, that the fact is that so much of the technology that’s out there today could be being used for so much good. And remember that thing that I read when you were talking to Effie, one of the things you said there, and I think it was so important that we heard that and take it in and keep it in, is that fact that we with the power that is within us, the source, power as spiritual beings, that it wouldn’t take all that many people, but it could actually be willed to be a different way.

Alan: It would have to be willed and actually, you know, used in life. Because that’s the whole thing.

Jackie: Well, that’s the whole point. If you will it to be a different way, that would be what it would be, that it would be

being used for good purposes.

Alan: But I really have to think, you see, humanity has a double nature, and that’s something that people… We can easily point the finger at the monsters we see at the top. And sure enough in this system, the psychopaths get to the top, because it’s a psychopathic system. Only those kind of people want to claw their way up. Joe Average doesn’t want that kind of power over people. However, Joe Average still has the ability to do good or evil you might say. And that’s what people have to confront in their lives. We can’t complain about the people at the top if we’re just the same at a smaller scale at the bottom. So, all technologies, you see, all technologies we know come from the military industrial complex. That’s why they’re first devised and they push ahead with things. And it shouldn’t surprise us.

Jackie: What is the military-industrial complex? What is, how would you describe that?

Alan: It’s a combination of combinations, literally. It’s international companies that have been there since prior to WWII. Some of them have been there for a hundred years. And they have tremendous power, and Carroll Quigley said in the Anglo-American Establishment, he did say that the future world will be run by a new feudal system ruled over by international corporations.

Jackie: International corporations. Alan: And that’s what we’re seeing.
Jackie: Remember the Rollerball movie. Was it Rollerball? Alan: That was one of them.
Jackie: They were corporations. Every one of those athletes played for a corporation.

Alan: And everybody worked for The Corporation. And then there was the older movie, it was called, it was about the same time maybe, it was Network. And that was an excellent portrayal of perceptions that people have that are given to them by the media, and it’s all to do with perceptional changes and how they can alter reality by altering the perceptions. Very much like we have with George Orwell, where you know, War is Peace, and Freedom is Slavery. And that’s what we have today. We see soldiers going off like soldiers have always gone off with grenades and guns, and we call them peacekeepers. It’s the same thing. You change the term and your outlook on what’s happening is altered. So, this is an old technique but it’s perfected today through mass marketing techniques. And repetition.

Jackie: Sometimes, you know you said this a long time ago. I think it was when we were talking a lot after September 11th, and you said the hardest thing is going to be for people who are aware to be able to maintain their sanity.

Alan: As we go through the changes, we’re already going through them. The six o’clock news would have you believe that one man in a cave somewhere, a cave man, you know, that’s the big joke, you know, High Masonry, a cave man is going to make you all take IDs and be monitored across the planet. Everybody.

Jackie: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What do you mean, a cave man? Alan: Well, you know, Bin Laden in the cave.
Jackie: Oh, Bin Laden.

Alan: And you see, in all the mystery religions, you have someone in a cave. Jackie: The boogieman.

Alan: Well, Jesus with the grotto, the cave, you know. And Mohamed heard God in the cave. You always find this in the high mystery religions. And they’ve got Bin Laden in a cave, you see. His name actually means, you know man of light or face of light, like Illuminati. So, he’s in a cave lighting up the cave. It’s High Masonic jokes, really. All of this theater is a High Masonic joke. And we get it over and over again, however, we’re supposed to believe that one man caused all of this to happen, and yet, it took years of preparation with bureaucrats to even outline all this stuff, long before 9/11 came along. So, this is nothing to do with Bin Laden. This is the New American Century. This is the purpose of the United States of America.

Jackie: This is not important, but it’s a question that just popped into my mind. Is, is the correct pronunciation of his name Bin Laden?

Alan: Yeah. It’s Bin Laden. It doesn’t really matter. And even the old battery was called the Laden Jar. Jackie: The what?
Alan: The pre-car batteries. They called them Laden Jars. That’s what a battery was called at one time. So, these are, everything that’s given to us has many meanings when it comes from the top. And even Maggie Thatcher, I think in 1990 or 1991, at Massey Hall in Toronto gave a talk about The New World Order. That was the title of it in the Toronto Sun. And she said, the next war will be fought with radical fundamentalism, and she mentioned the Middle East.

Jackie: Radical fundamentalism. Well, they are radical fundamentalists in the Middle East.

Alan: Anybody trying to hold on to their heritage is going to be called radical, because, the New World Order.

Jackie: I know, but is that what she was saying that those Arabs there, those, all the people who live there, besides the Israelis, that they’re radical fundamentalists?

Alan: Pretty well, pretty well. See, what they admitted too is that Britain and the US had created these, the extremist groups, to fight supposedly during the Cold War against the Russians. And supposedly they wouldn’t stop afterwards because they had become so powerful and mighty. That was the excuse they were giving back in 1990 or so.

Jackie: And then, we had the Christian fundamentalist radicals. And according to that BBC broadcast, there are 40 million of them. That’s a lot of people. So, fundamentalism, there’s Christian fundamentalism and what is it, Muslim fundamentalism, and those are the ones that skewed that their belief system is so skewed that it is that radical.

Alan: In other words, if they believe in it implicitly, as it’s written, that’s called fundamentalism. If you’re sort of wishy- washy or you’re a nominal type, you were born into it, but you don’t really follow it, that’s okay, you know. But if you believe this kind of stuff, then you’re classified as fundamental and radical. In fact, it’s been well written about even in educational systems. In many of their literature they’ve talked about people being technically insane, you know, if they follow religion. So, definitely for a New World Order…

Jackie: Well, Alan, it’s basically, you would have to be, because of the inconsistencies.

Alan: Well, that’s it. Mythology isn’t supposed to be consistent. And of course, they’ve wrapped up so much within the religions, rewritten many times, and always for political reasons, from the top for the top, to make people well behaved. But that system is over now that they’re taking down the borders worldwide for the global society, so they can’t have that any more. It served them well when they had to have the borders to keep the elite in power and wealthy and so on. But now, under a global system you’ve got to have, the state will be the boss. That will be your god really, the World State.

Jackie: And people, who, for example, the protesters, in that we got the Protestant religions, we got everything but

Catholicism. In Will Durant’s series, he mentions this. Mel called me one night, and he had gotten to reading that about during that time, and Luther, Martin Luther. Of course, he was the big one that started the whole thing. And we talked about this on the air. It dawned on me finally that Martin Luther was part of the controlled opposition. It was when I read the book, Babylon Mystery Religion, and when the sleeping giant begins to awaken, they send somebody out there. Well, Will Durant actually confirms that, because, although Martin Luther led the charge, he was the one telling the government that they ought to, they ought to arrest and kill these people that were protesting.

Alan: Well, he did not believe in the ordinary person at all. He thought they were the beasts, you know. He said that.

Jackie: He was an elite then in other words.

Alan: Oh, he totally hated the mob as he called it, the people, the common people. Jackie: The commoners.
Alan: They had to get a way. You see, the old feudal system had served well under Catholicism, but to get the new Industrial Era up and going, they needed a new work ethic which blended with the religions. So, that’s why they gave Protestantism to get that going. And that was the whole thing. It was to do with a new work ethic for a new type of era.

Jackie: What are your thoughts about Saul? Paul. Saint Paul.

Alan: Well, there’s no doubt that he’s, or if he was a person, we don’t even know. Jackie: Right, the story of him.
Alan: There’s no doubt that one person that we’re supposed to believe really gave to us a worldwide Christianity and set all the rules and stuff and got communes on the go with different laws and beliefs. In other words, he standardized the belief system, standardization. There were so many sects of Christianity at that time, it was staggering, to see how many were existing even in his day.

Jackie: You know what Will Durant said in his book, the Caesar in Christ. Remember I’ve talked about Bishop Arius. Well, he was the one they excommunicated, because he wasn’t going along with the dogma in the doctrine that the church was coming up with. Or Constantine at that First Council at Nicaea. And he was anathematized. You can’t find any information on him at all. But Will Durant talks about him. Basically, from what I’ve read, not just Will Durant, but another book I have, he was teaching that Jesus was the son of God as all of us are.

Alan: Well, that could be.

Jackie: Of our creator, and he was not “God” but created, as all of us were. Well, that wasn’t going to work. And they weren’t going to have that at all. So, they excommunicated him. And then when they brought him back, and said…

Alan: Under a truce.

Jackie: Yeah, come on back and we’re going to reinstate you in the Church. And that same day he died out in public a terrible death of poison.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: So, you know, people, people, let me finish this, because this is where I was going with this thought. He said that a lot of those bishops at that first Council, because Constantine wined and dined them to consensus, Alan.

Alan: It was political.

Jackie: It was. It was the 20th Anniversary of the 20th year of his reign.

Alan: And it was also to do with the Roman Empire. You see, it was an empire that was going to continue from the Old One to the New.

Jackie: So, he said in his books, in one of his books there, that many of those Bishops had rescinded their vote when they voted what was going to be the dogma in the doctrine. And he said, by 600 AD, if the Church was not of the Arius teachings, it was nearly empty. And that leads you to see that back then people were a little bit more aware, Alan. They weren’t falling for it the same way.

Alan: And they knew what Rome was all about, because Rome had already run a good part of the world for a long time, pre-Christian. So, it was a political movement. They were well aware. See, it was to standardize everything again. We’re seeing it today. That’s what the US is doing. They’re standardizing the world into one culture by force.

Jackie: We are organisms. And the world is their Petri dish, and they are culturing us. Alan: Well, they give us our culture.
Jackie: They give us our culture.

Alan: They grow it, well, actually, they download it into us, and we copy it. Jackie: Exactly, so yes, yes.
Alan: Nothing changes, you see.

Jackie: And we’re out of our hour. And I wish we weren’t because this just keeps opening thoughts. Our conversations do this. Folks, Alan and I, we’ll be back with you next Wednesday night. And Alan, well, Alan’s website is cuttingthroughthematrix.com.

 

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Jackie Patru: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thanks for being with us tonight on Sweet Liberty. It is Wednesday the 14th of June, already, in the year 2006. We haven’t had any summer here yet. I don’t know about you folks. It’s been 60, going down into the 40s at night. Today it actually got up to 70, but we really haven’t had any spring or summer, just because. Anyway, I’m glad you’re here with us tonight. And Alan Watt, thanks for being with us tonight.

Alan: Yeah, it’s a pleasure.

Jackie: And you’ve been a pretty busy guy, haven’t you? Alan: Yes. On TV tomorrow.
Jackie: TV? You’re getting to be a real celebrity, aren’t you?

Alan: Well, I’ll know that if the money starts coming in. I’ll know I’ve made it. (Laughter)

Jackie: Well, you better be. You know what, I’d be a little worried if the money starts coming in. And it may. Do you remember when you were on George Noory and you had mentioned that you had been invited to join the Freemasons and go all the way to the top, because you already. And he said, well. And you mentioned that they approach people who have the public voice, you know, the newspaper editors and… But you didn’t mention broadcasters, and then he said, you mean like me, talking to a lot of people. And you said, yes. He said, well, nobody has approached me, maybe I’m doing something wrong, Alan. And you said, or, maybe you’re doing something right, George. Remember that? And, doesn’t it make you wonder, Alan? Why they’re letting you talk so

much?

Alan: I don’t know.

Jackie: Well, what do you think? What are your thoughts on it?

Alan: Whatever I’m saying is getting through to people. I know with listeners. And I do know that a lot of these stations get a lot of emails for me to come on with people. So, I guess, maybe, they’re just putting me on for the demand or what, you know. I think some of these stations too are getting a bit worried about the events happening in the world, because everybody is feeling the changes that are coming down. There’s more people even noticing the spraying in the skies. For the last four days here, for three days I had a fire on night and day. The stove was going.

Jackie: Oh, it was that cold? Alan: It was that cold.
Jackie: And you went up to 90 already.

Alan: Before that we were hitting above 90 and it dropped right down to about the 40s for three days. Overcast, totally. Again, the yellow rain, you know, they left the yellow stuff. So this yellow element is creating the rain and the cold. And today it’s clear though. So people are noticing these changes, and many things are starting to be affected by all the security now. Even mail to the States, Air Mail is going the same rate as over land, because they’re checking everything that’s going through.

Jackie: So, you were talking about the yellow rain.

Alan: Yeah, these yellow bands around the puddles. The same as they had in California. It was on the Channel 4 newscast a couple of weeks ago. So, it’s the same stuff. And it looks, when you see it, it’s almost the consistency of latex paint. I mean, that’s what it looks like. It’s not pollen. And it’s on everything. I’ve even got tarps outside over woodpiles and there’s big yellow patches on that too.

Jackie: Well, have you talked to anybody else that’s getting that stuff?

Alan: Not so many up… I live out in the boonies here, so I don’t talk to many people. Jackie: Well, I mean, the people that you talk to on the telephone.
Alan: Oh, I tell everybody.

Jackie: I know, but have other people experienced that same thing? Alan: No.
Jackie: Well, they’re doing something different there, aren’t they, Alan? Alan: I think so.
Jackie: And we talked about this last week. The probability is that it has something to do with the weather modification. And as you had mentioned, just in case somebody is listening tonight that didn’t hear us last week. You had mentioned that you, like you were hypothesizing so to speak, that you thought that the reason you’re getting such weird weather, like up to 115 last summer in Northern Canada, is that you thought that maybe they were using the HAARP antennas and beaming them over to the pole, to melt the ice caps. And if they’re doing that and you thought that okay then, if that was the case, you would be where you are, you’d be right in the path.

Alan: Yes. There’s no doubt. They are. They admit it in the treaty they signed at the UN that they could move and direct the jet stream. So, and they could also bring it right down to ground level, if need be. And we’re seeing that. We’ve been seeing that for the last three or four years now, where you’ll see two layers of clouds, one going in one direction and one going in an opposite. So, it’s a twirl up there like an overlay. They’re both passing each other in opposite directions. And this last week, I saw a new phenomena, where cirrus clouds were underneath the cumulus clouds, which doesn’t happen, you see, unless they’re manmade. And of course, you can tell by the polymer vapors, they were manmade.

Jackie: Well, I was getting an article ready to send over to Darren for the website in the weather section. And while I was doing that, it was an article that I had, that I had already prepared, but hadn’t sent over. And there was another one that just came in. I guess that’s what prompted me to do it. It was an article that had appeared in the tribune.
It’s Pittsburgh Tribune, I think, or something like that. And they were discussing, Time Magazine, an article from March 6th. Time Magazine evidently had a cover story, and the title of it was, “Be Worried, be very worried.” And it was all about global warming. Well, then, the article discussed Time Magazine, a Time Magazine, an article from 1974, June 24th, and the title of it was, “Are we heading into a new Ice Age?” And I went, and I did a research, and I found that June 24th article, 1974. Now, they were blaming droughts and floods and all the crazy weather on the fact that the temperature for the past three years had been lower than normal, and if the temperature drops, even one degree, it could mean that we were heading for a new Ice Age. Okay. Now, their article in March of 2006.
Global warming, all the crazy weather is being blamed on global warming. So, you know, like you said, people lose their memories. Or, how many of us read that 1974 article, but when you see the two of them together, it’s the same damn story, except one of them is, global warming, and one of them is taking us into an Ice Age. And there was a statement in that the Ice Age Story. And it was the last statement and a quote by a guy. And he said that if this weather continues, this cold weather continues that, how did he say it? That the planet would not be sustainable for many people. And he used, that’s the word, sustainable. And I thought, oh, that was part of their intro into sustainable development.

Alan: Because I know there was one fellow who put a book out in the 70s, and he was really a PR man for the UN, and he, his book was called The Coming Ice Age. And the same guy, I think 15 years later, when they decided to make it warm instead, was putting a book out about the coming, you know, warming period. So, they go back and forth like this, to keep us all running.

Jackie: Be afraid. Be very afraid. Or be worried, be very worried.

Alan: Buy more, stock up on woollies, your woolly pullovers and stuff. Or else, buy a lot of suntan lotion.

Jackie: And somebody informed me recently that a study, I don’t know, some group did or something, showed that 70%, I think I said this last week also, that 70% of the tanning blockers have carcinogenic chemicals in them.

Alan: I’m not surprised.

Jackie: So, you know what it comes down to, Alan. Don’t trust anything that isn’t natural. Alan: And use common sense.
Jackie: Yes, use common sense, but it’s like that mosquito dope. Well, Chuck used to slather himself with it. And I said, I don’t know. I just don’t like putting stuff like that on my skin. Because your skin absorbs everything you put on it. I mean right into your system, fast. And by gosh, it was a couple, three years ago that it came out that the deet, I think it’s deet, in the popular mosquito stuff that you slather on you is very dangerous.

Alan: It’s neurotoxic. And also, I was using that quite often a few years ago, when I was doing different things outside and fixing trucks and things. And whenever you had it on your hands and went out and touched the steering wheel, you’d start melting the plastic on the steering wheel. Or hand tools, electric drills that you’d leave your fingerprints on the drill, etched into them, because the stuff literally ate into the plastic.

Jackie: Did you quit using it then?

Alan: Once in a blue moon, if it’s really thick. If it gets thick, you have no option. Jackie: I think they don’t like garlic, Alan.
Alan: I don’t know.

Jackie: No, I think the mosquitoes don’t like garlic. Yeah, and you know, we can find things, for example, take some olive oil, which is very good for you, and put some garlic in it, and use that.

Alan: Well, I know there’s different potions. People are trying them out. Different herbal potions. And I do have a bottle here from last year I’ve still got to try. And yeah, but I’d like to find something that really was effective.

Jackie: Well, it wouldn’t hurt to try garlic in olive oil, would it? Alan: No.
Jackie: Because both garlic and olive oil are good for you. So, if your skin absorbs it. Alan: You’d be a pretty lonely guy, mind you. I mean, there’s nobody around here.
Jackie: (Laughter) Well, you know, I give the girls garlic, the dogs, they get garlic every day in their food. And I’m told that it would keep, even the vet said that it would keep the mosquitoes away from them. They don’t like the taste of the blood, anyway. So, if they don’t like the taste of the blood, they must be able to smell it, I mean, before they actually get to the blood, smell it on the system. So, give that a try, honey, after you use up your herbal remedy. We don’t have a lot of mosquitoes up here. We’re 1800 ft, and when you have little brisk breezes all the time, you don’t have mosquitoes.

Alan: That’s handy.

Jackie: It’s very handy. It’s one of the blessings of being where I’m at. So, tell us what you’ve been doing. You’ve made a new, have you got your new video done?

Alan: I tell you, I sent it off a week ago, express post, express and air mail, and for some reason they put it under Purolator courier, the Canadian version of UPS and it still hasn’t got there. And, on it, I had some still photographs for one of the TV shows that are coming up. However, I still have to transfer them onto this old computer here, this old ’98 thing. And talk through how they do it, and transfer the images and send them off to the station.

Jackie: What station are you going to be on?

Alan: The next one is tomorrow night. It’s called “Out There” at 11pm. Jackie: Out There. Where’s that at?
Alan: It’s from the States, but it’s affiliated with stations in Britain, television stations there in Europe as well. Jackie: I mean, is it on a regular channel?
Alan: I’m not really sure. But it’s on the website how to get to it. Jackie: Okay, on your cuttingthroughthematrix.com.

Alan: They’ve got a big audience, though. Jackie: “Out there”, huh?
Alan: Yeah, way out there.

Jackie: You know, we were talking one evening. And whatever the conversation was about, I really got it, Cutting Through the Matrix; because basically, that is what you are doing, isn’t it, Alan?

Alan: It is. It’s pointing out what really is going on above them that’s kept separate from them or their reality, and showing them how it’s giving you the reality, and then altering the reality as they move to the next step. And it truly is like that, because the sciences are so far advanced in these secret laboratories and military complexes that to us it really is science fiction. When last week, on the Discovery Channel, when they talked about the nanotechnology that literally they could spray billions of these in the air, these tiny robots, and you’ll breathe them in, and they can get in your eyes, and this is so tiny you won’t even notice them, and they’re tiny transmitters. But nano robots can also link up inside your body and create a whole electric circuit.

Jackie: Did they say what the purpose of these nanorobots were for? Alan: Well, what they said, they were transmitters. But there’s no need. Jackie: What were they transmitting though?
Alan: Well, that’s just it. I don’t think it’s just to transmit. You wouldn’t need billions in order to transmit. So, whatever they give us is a cover story for something else.

Jackie: But, I mean, they actually said that they can get in your eyes. Alan: You won’t notice, because they’re the size of a virus.
Jackie: Don’t you think they did that to scare people?

Alan: It’s possible. And whatever they declare to the public is obsolete, really. Whatever we’re given at the bottom level is always obsolete. They’re way beyond that. And there’s even another type of technology. It’s hyper nano or something, which is even smaller than a virus. It’s about half the size, again.

Jackie: And the virus, I heard one of the, I can’t remember her name, one of the doctors that got off the, out of the medical circuit, but anyway, she was talking about AIDS, and she said, to give you an example of the difference, because she was saying that the rubber gloves that the surgeons wear have these microscopic little holes in them. She said if you compare the size of a bacteria with a virus, I think she said, take a football and put it on a football field, and the football field would be the bacteria and the football would be the virus. Am I overstating that?

Alan: It’s pretty well like that. A virus is I think .05 microns, like a cold virus. So, that’s really, really tiny. That’s how it can pass through the tissue walls. So, yeah, they’re so far ahead in technologies that it’s mind-boggling, and that’s just what they’ve allowed us to know. And this isn’t stuff that they’re just working on. When they declared they could spray billions of these in the air, that means they can churn them out now. Now, what kind of equipment are they using to even construct these things that are so tiny? That’s mind-boggling too.

Jackie: Are viruses a natural, I mean, not the ones today, but have viruses ever been a natural part of this earth?

Alan: I would tend to think not. Because when you study viruses, they’re almost like tiny little spaceships in a way. They’re not round or roundish like a bacterium

Jackie: And they’re crystalline in nature, aren’t they?

Alan: Yeah, they’re crystalline, and they can come along like a little hexagon, or whatever, float along through the bloodstream, and when they want to invade a cell, a body cell, they put out little legs, just like a landing pod. And then they land on it. And then a little proboscis comes out of the bottom, like a trap door.

Jackie: Oh, Alan, is this every virus?

Alan: Pretty well, yeah. And then it drills in through the membrane, and it empties its contents right into the cell. And that way it’s hidden, and the contents are hidden inside your body cell.

Jackie: And the body doesn’t recognize it as a foreign invader.

Alan: That’s right. So, when you really look at it, it does look like something that’s been created here out of… Jackie: You know, it’s almost as though they’ve been given programs to do specific functions too.
Alan: Oh, they have.

Jackie: It’s almost like they can think.

Alan: Well, you know something. The weirdest thing was on. Our CBC here, the television station, gives you these oddball shows once in a while. And they really tell you something, but they don’t dwell on it, so it goes out of people’s memories. But about four or five years ago, there was a program on phagocytes.

Jackie: Okay, that’s a kind of an organism.

Alan: Well, these things were… in your body, when different things like clots are breaking down or your body is repairing something, the Phagocytes you have naturally move in, and they eat basically all the refuse that’s there, the white cells, the damaged body cells. They’ll eat it up for disposal, the garbage disposal. And this program showed you a history, which is totally unknown to the West. And in the West, we came out with Fleming and his penicillin, and all that silly story they gave us. And about the end of WWII, they got it into production, penicillin, and there was nothing else. And they kept telling us for, right up to the present day, “oh, my God, the bacteria are becoming resistant. We don’t have new types of penicillin. We just don’t know what to do.” And out comes this program on the CBC, and it started with this little guy from Canada, an unknown guy, in WWI, who went off to Russia. And he set up facilities to help the Red Army. And the factories are still there that he built. So, he wasn’t experimenting. He went over with the knowledge to put this plant up. And what they did, they got all, they even showed you this massive, huge wall of it, it was like a factory wall, with all pigeon holes in it. And it was a cooler. It was all kept cool, like a morgue. And in there, they had human flesh, with all kinds of diseases from the Russian Revolution, the Soviet Bolshevik Revolution. And they had never used penicillin in Russia, right up to a few years ago. They didn’t need them, because they could literally create viruses, and alter viruses to attack any bacterium.

Jackie: Well, then, what about the virus, once the virus?

Alan: The virus was programmed so that once its target was destroyed it literally stopped reproducing. Jackie: It self-destructed.
Alan: That’s how perfect they could program it. And it was in Georgia. That was their main facility. And this guy from Alberta was one of these hot shot buyers for big companies, so, he fronted for them, went over there, made all the deals and bought the rights, and the program ended and it said that a company from New York had bought this technology, and this may be available to the public soon, and that’s the last we heard of it. But they showed you through the plant, they talked to the doctors. You saw doctors, if you went in with a child with pneumonia, into the doctor’s office, and after he found out what kind of bacterium it was, the pneumococcus and so on, he would bring out a little spray, just like the kind of little puffers, little rubber puffer type from the bottom, a bulb. And he’d tell the

child to breathe out, and he’d squirt a few, you know, in the breath that the child was inhaling, and that was it. Go home, and those viruses would take off in the body, attack their target, clear it up, and then they would self-destruct.

Jackie: That was in the Soviet Union?

Alan: That was in the Soviet Union. They had never, they never had a need for…

Jackie: Why did they have such good medical care there, Alan? Why in the Soviet Union did the slaves there have such good medical? Well, they wanted to keep their slaves healthy, I suppose.

Alan: They had to. I mean, the whole thing was to give everything the appearance that they were doing well. But, primarily, that guy had gone over with this knowledge. And he wasn’t going over to try and help them. He went over with the knowledge. And this was about 1917.

Jackie: Well, remember Dr. Richard Day, that talk he gave. He said back in 1968 that there is a cure for every known disease in this world.

Alan: Yeah, I believe that.

Jackie: In the Rockefeller, you know, files.

Alan: Yes. There was a half page or one page in one of the British papers. It might have been the Daily Mail, a few years ago, before Princess Diana was called Di, and then she died. And it was a reporter who was going with her as she jetsetted to the parties, you see.

Jackie: I’m sorry, I interrupted you. You just whizzed that thing by us.

Alan: Yeah, this reporter accompanied Diana, as she went from party to party, that’s kind of what they do at that level. Sort of aristocrats’ parties. Young ones. And he did notice that they were completely promiscuous. And he just mentioned it, he said, I asked them, he said there was a group of them there, he said, I asked them, aren’t you afraid of, you know, catching a disease. And he said they all stood and looked at him, you know, like stunned zombies. And then he went on to another topic. In other words, he was stunned that they were stunned, but he didn’t pursue it. And what I think is that the elite, you see, have the real inoculations against all of this stuff.

Jackie: Or maybe not inoculations, but to cure anything they get.

Alan: I think they have the real inoculations. See, you can give real inoculations. Because they looked like he was crazy, like who is this guy? And meanwhile, AIDS is rampant, and syphilis made a comeback and gonorrhea, and non-specific urethritis and a whole bunch of other things. But these people were not in the least concerned about it.

Jackie: You know what that reminds me of? When you say, inoculations. Who was the guy that allegedly in England invented the inoculation against smallpox? Okay, well, we don’t need to remember his name. He was called a doctor. He wasn’t a doctor at all. He had bought his degree. Paid for, you know, something that said he was a doctor. But, you know, the thing that I read, that blew me away, is that, and we’ve been told this, he used the serum from cowpox. And the cowpox is a totally different molecular structure than smallpox. And to put that into people, is not inoculating people against smallpox. It’s probably giving them the cowpox.

Alan: Well, I do know, there’s no doubt, when you trace the histories of inoculations, especially from the British records, you’ll notice that in the 1800s they started making a lot of these things compulsory.

Jackie: Yes, and that’s when they had all the plagues.

Alan: They did, and generally the deaths were exactly the same.

Jackie: In every country that they made it mandatory there were the outbreaks. We’re going to take a break here, and we’ll be back right after this. Folks, you’re listening to Sweet Liberty with Jackie Patru, myself, your hostess, and Alan Watt. I guess we would say co-host, yes, Alan?

Alan: I guess so. (Commercial Break)
Jackie: Okay, we’re back. Alan? We were on a roll there, and maybe we’ve… Alan: Oh, the inoculations.
Jackie: But maybe we’ve completed that. Or, I’m interested in the new video that you’ve made. With, what is it about?

Alan: It’s again about ancient techniques of managing whole peoples, different peoples, mainly through religion, how they always used, had lay groups involved under different names. And I think they brought that back again in the industrial era for Freemasonry for the middle class. And eventually it came into the working class later on. But I go in to show you how the whole system is a real system you’re living in; it just didn’t evolve haphazardly. And that’s the impression, you know, they love to give about even Britain. Even the comedy shows always show you these kind of blustering bureaucrats that are absent-minded and all this kind of thing.

Jackie: Right. Harmless, idiots.

Alan: Yeah, terribly absent-minded people. Jackie: But not mean-minded and evil.
Alan: And yet, when you study the old books on British diplomacy, and they had schools of British diplomacy in London. And they ran the Empire as a business. They were like the head of the business. For the government, and really for the Establishment. And these guys had these far-reaching plans. They had their board meetings to sit and discuss the fate of Africa for the next hundred years and countries like that. And all the changes that would come throughout the rest of the world. So, these diplomats were sent out, well trained, well educated, and often they were the third or fourth generation in the family doing the same thing. And they would play mental chess with people across the planet, all the dignitaries they came in contact with. And it was always to get something from them, or to manipulate them into a particular part of a world agenda and so on. And it’s one thing to see that Cecil Rhodes, who was definitely set up, to expand the British Empire, and to take over the wealth of the world, the natural resources, the gold, the silver, the diamonds of Africa. And they pretended, of course, that he was separate from the British government, but no, he definitely had the blessings of the British government, the elite, anyway. And he even caused the Boer War, he brought it on. You know, they had the Jameson raid, where his boys went into South Africa, and when they retaliated, eventually Britain sent troops over. So that was a complete set-up. That’s how they set up things in advance, and give themselves the excuse to go in and take things over. And then, when the country, even for fifty years, or sixty or seventy has served them very, very well, and they’ve looted it, then the same elite financed the ANC, the African National Congress to take over Africa. And when Rhodesia was going under, and all those immigrants were being killed, and eventually South Africa, Britain was completely quiet on the matter. So, they use peoples all the time. And then they leave you to die, without a murmur from the British Parliament.
And it gave no aid to anybody.

Jackie: You know, when I read about South Africa, maybe it was a, it was a James Mitchner book, and it was called The Covenant. Maybe, I don’t know. But when you think about it, those English, British people that went over and settled South Africa, they took the land. You know, I get all these emails, Alan about, oh, the poor people over there in South Africa, and how the blacks, the natives, are, you know, taking all their land and all that stuff. And I thought, it isn’t their land. What the heck were they doing over there in the first place? What the heck? They enslaved those people over there.

Alan: Yes, they did.

Jackie: They took them as slaves.

Alan: Well, they made them work down the mines, and made them pay. Gave them money and made them pay taxes, and all the rest of it.

Jackie: And then there was apartheid. You know, if you had 1/16th of African blood in you, then you weren’t a white person. And you weren’t part of the society. I can remember when I was reading about that, and I’ll tell you what, at that time, I was very naive about a lot of things. But what I wondered is, you know, these Boers that went over there, they were so religious, Alan. And they took slaves.

Alan: Old Testament religion.

Jackie: Well, I know it, but I didn’t realize that at the time, see. But I thought, how could these people be enslaving other human beings and be so religious. Until I really got back into the Old Testament. Well, you know, as we go and grow and learn, I understand it now, but it’s like, you know, the Bible Belt in the Old South, all the slaves that they owned and beat and mated with…

Alan: Most of them, you know, were sold out of New York Harbor.

Jackie: But they were Bible-thumping Christians. But they were Old Testament Christians.

Alan: Well, sure. It’s been used and abused. Again, the worst in human nature is encouraged at times, when it suits the purpose of those above. But what I’m saying, even about Africa, and this goes back all the way to John Dee and Francis Bacon. Francis Bacon wrote about the necessity of governments once in a while to eliminate their surplus population, to be beneficial to the country. So, the country that, like England at the time, would send off these people to different countries, to open up those countries for them. Now, if they didn’t have countries to open up, they’d have found other ways of bringing the population down. So, they would encourage all that immigration, but what I’m saying is years down the road, they probably knew when they sent in the British to South Africa, they probably knew how long it would take before they could plunder everything out of it, and set up a system they could leave which would appear to be run by the black people. But in reality, it’s a little duplicate, mini-democracy. And of course, then, when you go into the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the CFR, that’s their policy, as Cecil Rhodes put it down and Lord Milner. Their policy was to go into countries and never leave them until they were perfectly sure that they had set up the same system of Parliament, the same system of voting, the same hierarchy drawn from the same classes that would run that country, and they would be in cahoots, with the same aristocracy of England. So, that’s still in effect today. We see that happening in Iraq right now. And that’s going to be a long, long, drawn out affair. And they will not pull out of there until they’re absolutely certain that one or two generations have passed, and now that’s the new normal, that new system over there.

Jackie: You know, okay. I don’t want to get off the track here. So, I’m going to make a note here to go back to Iraq, the slaughter that’s going on over there. But, your new videos, for our listeners. Now, you’ve got three videos at your website, cuttingthroughthematrix.com, and they’re all free, and people can download them. This one, you said that you made, hopefully to help to fund, to finance the website. So, tell us about, okay, how long is it. I mean, you’ve given us a little bit of a synopsis of it.

Alan: Once the final things are put in there, there’s certain cuts to get put in, it will be at least, at least two hours long.

Jackie: Two hours. And this is on DVD? Alan: Yeah, DVD.

Jackie: Okay, and what is the cost on it? Alan: I haven’t figured it out yet.
Jackie: Well, you better.

Alan: I know. I have to figure it out, because with everything. You see, the mailing has to go airmail now, to try and hopefully get there faster than overland, because the mail is a mess right now.

Jackie: What does it cost to mail a DVD, a disc?

Alan: I expressed that last one, just the DVD, and I paid 8 bucks. And you know how light a DVD is. Jackie: Oh, yeah. It’s like a half an ounce.
Alan: So, that was express, but he still hasn’t got it yet, and that’s over a week ago. Because they’re holding up everything in the US border, and going through everything.

Jackie: Well, why don’t you try sending it Ground, and see if…

Alan: Actually, I phoned up the post office today, and the woman told me at the head Post Office for Canada, there’s no difference right now.

Jackie: Well, Alan, I told you that the first time I sent that box to you. Alan: Yeah, but I wanted to make sure that DVD didn’t get lost.
Jackie: Yeah, right. Well, I sent it airmail, and then the next one I sent was ground, and they both got there at the same time.

Alan: It’s pot luck, you know. Jackie: Yes, it is.
Alan: Because, what they’re doing is they’re holding up some batches of mail, and going through it all, and letting other ones go through. It just depends which one they hold up. But there’s some people have waited three weeks to get something delivered.

Jackie: What is it? Did you find out what ground would cost? Alan: Well, ground, just regular, I can mail one out for $1.05. Jackie: Oh, you’re kidding me.
Alan: Over land.

Jackie: Alan, you ought to try it.

Alan: Well, I would have, but I thought, well, you know. Jackie: You wanted to get that there fast.
Alan: Hand delivered, because they’ve got to sign for it and all that.

Jackie: Sign for it. Yeah, well. So much for that.

Alan: But coming into Canada, I get the mail quickly. But it’s going through the US. You see, they think we’re all secret Muslims up here.

Jackie: Oh, God. No they don’t. Alan: Yeah, they do.
Jackie: No, they don’t. They’re just making it difficult.

Alan: I heard that, I heard that Mr. Bush is getting a special team to take DNA tests of every Canadian to see if he’s really a secret Muslim. So, I’ve got this old rug on the floor here. I’m going to throw it out in case they think it’s a prayer mat.

Jackie: (Laughter) I’ve got prayer mats all over my house then.

Alan: Oh, you’ve had it then. But, it’s just getting so damn silly, really. So silly. Jackie: It isn’t silly.
Alan: Yeah, it has nothing to do with what. You see, what they’re going for now is the complete rush for the whole world system. And it’s nothing to do. They’re using terrorism as an excuse.

Jackie: And you know haste makes waste, Alan. They are, you know, they used to go, what did they call it, two steps forward, one step back. They’re going leaps and bounds today. They’re laying the cards open on all the tables. And maybe they’re going to make a mistake.

Alan: I mean this pretense of… What worries me, is that, see, they want everybody on the planet ID’d. That’s in the global agenda. And the amalgamation has happened already, it’s just that they’re keeping the borders there temporarily for the US. Europe has amalgamated. The Pacific Rim.

Jackie: Can people travel all over Europe without a “pass”?

Alan: Yeah, you can go under the Chunnel. You know, the tunnel under the Channel they call the Chunnel. And you can go right through and drive all the way to Russia. But I do believe, I was listening to a program, it was a documentary, and the European cars have these little monitor modules in them. And they’re tracked by satellite. So, they don’t even need any borders. They know who’s passing where.

Jackie: They know where you are and yes.

Alan: And that’s coming into the States, apparently, on this superhighway that’s coming up from Mexico. Jackie: The NAFTA highway.
Alan: It’s built for the same thing. And you will be taxed by the mile automatically. That is on the cards. It’s been spoken about and published. So, this totalitarian world they’re bringing in is really what they’re after here and they’re using this nonsense about a cave man to do it.

Jackie: Yeah, we’re biding time, you know. My car is sixteen years old. I have a little Chevy Berretta. And I know it’s got, I mean, it’s computer command, but it doesn’t have the, whatever you call it.

Alan: Electronic doo-dad.

Jackie: However, I had a friend in Illinois, who worked for the railroad. And, oh my goodness, this was fifteen years ago, and he said that every single railroad car had those on them so that the satellite, in other words, what do they call it? There’s a word for it.

Alan: Oh, it’s a satellite.

Jackie: But anyway, there’s letters they use that mean something. Alan: Global positioning.
Jackie: Global positioning, thank you. Well, he was telling me about it, and I was in awe. I said, you mean they’ve got them on every single railroad car. He said, yeah, because every car has to be accounted for and before we had to do it on paper.

Alan: Somebody might steal the car.

Jackie: Yeah, well. They drop one off and some other train is… Alan: You hitch it to the back of your truck and drive off with it.
Jackie: Supposed to pick it up and the wrong one picks it up and takes it somewhere. All they have to do is push a couple of buttons on the computer, say, oh, my God. It’s in North Dakota. It’s supposed to be in South Carolina.
Go get it.

Alan: Well, you know, Walmart was mentioned on the Canadian National News here, last week. And it was only a five-minute blurb. But it was about Walmart has everything ID’d with this little disc. And the disc, it’s like a little perspex, see-through disc, about the size of a quarter. And the outside of the disc is looped with a copper coil, so you see the copper color around it. That’s the antenna. And a tiny little chip was inside it. And it said that Walmart has demanded that their supplier, see, here’s the blackmail, they get you in as a supplier and then they start dictating to you.

Jackie: Yes. Because they are the biggest buyer. Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: I think they started with Gillette Blue Blades or something. But Alan, their chips, they might say they’re a disc with an antenna. They’re chips.

Alan: What got me is when they showed the disc on the TV, and then they said that they’re forcing all the companies to start using it. And of course, they’ll offset that by saying, well it will be better for the companies too, because then they can keep track of their stock. But I thought, that’s the shell, because you don’t need anything nearly that big.

Jackie: It’s for inventory. Well, there’s a website, and I can’t remember what it is. But this woman, in fact, when I was in St. Louis in December of 2002, and Chuck was doing the radio broadcast, he had her on the air with him. Now, interestingly though, I contacted her after I got home to bring her back on, and I never heard back from her. But she was saying that they have these chips, are like a little, you know the glitter that you can get to put around. She said that it is small and tiny and thin as that. They’re woven into underwear. They’re in everything.

Alan: They’ve even put them in the rubber soles of the shoes. In the process of making the rubber sole, they’ve inserted it in the middle of it.

Jackie: Well, at the grocery stores, they’ve got, it’s even up in Elmira, which is like 37,000 people, my closest ‘big city’, where I do grocery shopping. I never even noticed it before, till I heard about these checkout lines, where they don’t need a checkout person. You just walk through.

Alan: Well, that’s what they said on this program.

Jackie: And that baby, that thing, just records everything you’ve got and tells you what you owe. I found, I saw it at the grocery store in Elmira. It’s a checkerless, checkouterless line. Geez.

Alan: That’s right. And that’s what Walmart’s putting up.

Jackie; You know, I’m glad I haven’t bought any new clothes in a long, long, time, Alan. I’m wearing clothes that I’ve had for years. And when you buy good stuff, you know, real stuff like cotton, it lasts.

Alan: Sure. The problem is when you get the rubber tires for the car. Jackie: Oh hell. Oh, man. Oh, I hadn’t even thought of that.
Alan: They are putting them in the walls of the tires.

Jackie: Oh, no. So, I don’t have a global positioning in my car, but I have it on my tires. You’re probably right. Alan: Yeah, they are. That was admitted. Not on the same show but on another one I saw.
Jackie: Well, I would be very boring to them.

Alan: Well, it’s not a matter of being boring. It’s that in a totalitarian system… Jackie: They have to know what every one of us are doing.
Alan: Everyone must be predictable. That’s it.

Jackie: And this is, how would you say, clicked another thought in my mind, total quality management. Okay well, I had Anita Hoge on, a long time ago. That was in ’98, when I was on at 6pm. And she was talking about total quality management, and she explained it Alan, the way it really is. She said, what they intend to do is to absolutely keep track of, like we’re talking right now. Everywhere we go, the money we spend, what we spend it on. Etc, etc.
Because total quality management, the end purpose for them is energy in vs. energy out. And when you are no longer a producer. In other words, how much are you producing vs. how much you’re eating, the calories you’re taking in. And when you become a useless eater, you are out.

Alan: And that’s the definition of the United Nations, of a good citizen, is a good producer/consumer. So, yeah, when you start just consuming, what does that make you?

Jackie: Yep, you’re a useless eater.

Alan: So this is where they’re going. It’s for total efficiency. We’re the herd. And that’s as cold-blooded as that. They’re the farmers, we’re the herd. They’re the good shepherds, they call themselves. But we are definitely the herd.

Jackie: You know, one thing I do do, do do. Alan: Do, do.
Jackie: Yeah, I do, do, is because, you know, when Chuck passed, before he did, I had no checking account. My car was in his name. I was a non entity. And the day I went and opened a bank account, I cried on the way home, because I knew I was becoming, you know, like you say, what we have to do is get out of the system. Well, there are certain things that you’re just not going to be able to do without being part of the system. But what I do do is I

pay my bills, you know, the electric bill and the gas bill and the phone bill and the taxes, I pay them by check. Other than that, I pay cash. And everything else I do, as often as I can, I do it by cash. Because I, and not that I’m doing anything wrong, Alan, I just don’t want to broadcast to those bastards.

Alan: I know, I know. You see, that’s, DARPA, you know the DARPA. DARPA, I think it’s under their statement. Jackie: Well, what is DARPA? Do you remember?
Alan: Oh, it’s something to do with total. They call it total information management. I don’t know where the DARPA comes in. But yeah, they’re all about total information network. And you know, people should realize they mean total. It’s about all information.

Jackie: Oh, everything.

Alan: It’s letters, it’s writing, it’s internet, it’s talking on the phone. Everything. Total is total. That’s why these Voice Over internet companies now are pushing up there with all these great deals, because they want all communications going through the internet system. It’s easier for them to monitor everything then, rather than go through a separate system. It’s for their efficiency, not for our good that this is happening.

Jackie: Well, you know what I say. I don’t say it, I’m repeating it. The best laid plans of mice and men often go astray.

Alan: Well, what we can do is breed carrier pigeons. Jackie: There you go, Alan.
Alan: Because those guys can fly a long distance, you know.

Jackie: You know what they’ll do. They’ll chip all the carriers, all the pigeons.

Alan: They might. Well, make sure you don’t feed them the modified food. Because that’s what it’s coming to.

Jackie: Well, this isn’t very, this isn’t, this conversation tonight is quite, whatever. But it is the way it is. And, you know, to live in fear, to live in, how do you call it, cowering.

Alan: It’s no life at all.

Jackie: Yeah, exactly. So, you know what. To hell with them. We’ll do the best we can do, and let them play their game. And their game has never been successful, has it Alan?

Alan: To crush the human will takes an awful lot of cunning and planning. And they certainly think they’ve got enough plans up their sleeves. But I think they underestimate human will.

Jackie: And what is it? The Ghost in the Machine. They’ve never been able to figure out.

Alan: That elusive part that tries to preserve itself and continue. The individualism within, yeah. It’s the creative spark, you see. You see, they want to kill that creative spark. And I think they’ll lose, because there’s a will here that’s beyond their control.

Jackie: Yes. And they’ve never been able to do it. Alan, thank you. This has been delightful tonight. And we never talk much anymore, because you’re so busy.

Alan: I know.

Jackie: So, it’s nice to talk with you. Folks, we’ll be back Wednesday night.

 

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Jackie Patru: Good Evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us tonight on Sweet Liberty. Today is Wednesday. And it is the 21st of June in the year 2006. And I’m glad you’ve joined us today. I hope you’re having a nice day. I hope you’re having nice weather.

Alan: It’s been dull and almost dark.

Jackie: This has been a lovely day here, Alan. This is a quote that we’ve all heard. “Know thyself. There is nothing else to seek.” Yes?

Alan: That’s pretty well it.

Jackie: That’s pretty well it, isn’t it, Alan?

Alan: It’s the only thing you can actually find. (Laughter) Because the rest of it is endless.

Jackie: So, we haven’t spoken until just a couple of minutes ago. Is there anything particular that is on your mind that you want to bring up tonight?

Alan: The only thing really is the hullabaloo on all the radio shows about the NAFTA highway, as though it was a brand new idea. Even though it was discussed in the 1980s, openly in the newspapers, when they did the Free Trade Negotiations. And what you realize eventually is that most of the public sleep through everything. They do sleep through things. They slept through the transfer of industry to China after the GATT Treaty. And their attention is only drawn to something when they’re told to think about it.

Jackie: Well, this email is going all over the internet. And geez, I remember six or seven years ago, we were discussing the NAFTA highway. And a particular situation that happened. We were having Tim Clemm on with us. He was the facilitator for XEROX corporation, former facilitator. He was explaining the total quality management.

Alan: Guiding you to the conclusion.

Jackie: Thank you, yes. There’s several names for it, group dynamics. He was explaining it to us. Well, he was due to come on the air, and I got a call from him just a few minutes before the broadcast. He said, I’m not going to be able to make it. We’ve had a tornado that ran through here. He was in Oklahoma City. And he said, we’ve never had such a series of storms in history. And when he did come on with us a few days later, he was telling us, Alan, listen to this, they were bringing the NAFTA highway down to Oklahoma City. They were going to bypass Oklahoma City, and in the bypass, it was going to take out a community, their community. And Tim Clemm, being an expert in that, was in the group that was opposing it, and they were being successful. And guess where the tornado hit? That community. And I often wonder, because I really didn’t follow up on it, but at that time, I thought, this is just too coincidental to be a coincidence.

Alan: And especially when they publish, even before that, through Brzezinski, the fact that future wars would be fought with weaponry of weather and so on, and storms.

Jackie: Right, right. So, as you said, the NAFTA, this NAFTA Highway is not a new thing, but it is true that, it hasn’t been spoken of lately.

Alan: Well, that’s how quickly the public go to sleep. In fact, they slept through the negotiations as though it didn’t affect them. That was what was astounding. See, technically, the big boys always legally will tell you. It’s just that they don’t tell you to worry about it, and that’s what Brzezinski said. The public will not think about something, unless they’re told to by the media. And so this is understood, this form of psychology. We worry about the things they tell us to worry about. There’s no point worrying about something after it’s done.

Jackie: Well, let me ask you this. Is this on mainstream media? Alan: It was then. I’m sure it’s on various local news.
Jackie: No, but I mean today you said it’s a big hullabaloo on…

Alan: Oh, it’s shortwave. I mean, it’s all shortwave. And unfortunately, shortwave concentrates on the effects after the cause. And it’s too late howling about it when it’s put into place. You’re just seeing the side effects of it now.
The same as the done deal that the border between Mexico and the US would eventually come down, and other South American countries too. So, I mean, you’re seeing the effects, and that’s the only time the people get startled is when they think their way of life has been threatened, immediately, you know.

Jackie: Yeah, well, you know, that is true to a point. But there are people who have exposed these things, and it isn’t that they go to sleep on it. Alan, for example, I talked about regional governance probably for two years. I was on other broadcasts as a guest. We had a regionalism document packet. Had a lot of lot of response. Regionalism is alive and well. And it isn’t necessarily, I didn’t go to sleep on regionalism. But I had covered it so heavily and to keep on harping on it. See, what they do is they keep presenting new things for people to talk about.

Alan: And worry about.

Jackie: Yeah, sure. And so, not to put all the blame on “sleeping people”. They just keep bombarding, you can’t cover. And if you do cover all the news, that’s all you’re doing. You know, like Robbie N. He used to sit and go, and so did Rick W, that was on shortwave there, that’s all they did is sit and go through the news. Blow people’s minds away, but what are those people going to do about it.

Alan: It’s after the fact. It’s after the event. And scream and howl and beating your breast, when you see the effects. But, the fact is, this stuff has been published for, Karl Marx talked about the amalgamation of the different continents in the 1800s, you know.

Jackie: Yeah, but, Alan, and I don’t mean yeah but. I shouldn’t say that. See, we appreciate the information you bring to us. You have had access and made yourself aware and knowledgeable. You had resources and information that we didn’t have access to. And maybe it wasn’t that people didn’t care at the time. You see what I’m saying?

Alan: Well, they do. They do have access to them. Jackie: How?
Alan: If they’d gone into their libraries and researched this kind of dry material. Jackie: I know, but if you don’t know about it, how do you know to research about it?
Alan: Because, the thing is, there’s got to be a reason for things. Big, big movements, world movements, there’s always reasons for them. They don’t come into existence and become big, unless they’re authorized. And that’s how the people are led by the pied pipers and the dialectical arguments in fact. They’ve got to have sides created to oppose each other and then have a synthesis. And when you understand that, you’ve got to read the dry stuff to get the nitty-gritty. And you always know what’s coming, because sure as blazes, they always publish it, you know. And as I say, in reality, we don’t have much of a say in this system. It’s not our system.

Jackie: Well, that’s what my thought here. Alan: It’s not our system.
Jackie: And going back to regional governance, I didn’t know about it, but it was known about almost from the get- go. There were certain people that were sounding the warning bells, as far back as the 1970s. The Illinois State legislature set up a special committee to study the effects of regional governance. I have three huge books, seven hundred and some pages of transcripts from those hearings. And what the legislature came up with is we better damn stop it here. And so, what they did is they passed a bill to set up a committee to study regionalism, to stop any further form of regionalism in Illinois, and to begin to undo regionalism that had already been put in place. Well, the governor vetoed it. And there weren’t enough votes. But this was the result of people that were involved and talking to these legislatures and bringing them information, and enough people putting the pressure on, that they did it. And yet, it got vetoed by the governor. So, there you go.

Alan: That’s what I’m saying. People don’t realize that this is not their system. There is a control mechanism at the top. And they make sure of it. That’s how they never lose control. That’s why they can plan something a hundred years before and bring it into effect. They always make sure they have their own people at the top.

Jackie: Well, of course. Controlled opposition.

Alan: Yes. And you know yourself, and you’ve spoken about it before. You have these United Nations Associations of Police Chiefs for instance. And there’s one for mayors now.

Jackie: Oh, everything, Alan. Chiefs of police and mayors. They have international associations for just about every, and they do have National Associations for every elected official from state legislatures to legislative aids. They’ve got them all.

Alan: And that was the reason they set up the United Nations. It was bit by bit to take over every aspect of your life, really. And they have been at it and working at it. And when they signed that deal, the UN deal, that was really the end of the old system, which the big boys also controlled. This is just the updating of their system to the new

system.

Jackie: And, for any of our listeners, that might not be aware of it, in case we have any new listeners, because I have said this. The United Nations, of course, previously was the League of Nations. Prior to that, it was the League to Enforce Peace.

Alan: And before that it was the Concert of Europe.

Jackie: Okay. And people believe, I think, and I can relate to this, because, Alan, when I first woke up and became involved. I believed things that I read, because people wrote them, with you know, a certain amount of authority.
But it is kind of a given or an accepted thing, that we signed a charter, that was a treaty with the United Nations. That’s what they call it, a treaty that was signed with the United Nations. All the US did was enter into a membership, because treaties in the United States are made between governments.

Alan: That’s right.

Jackie: And all they did was say, okay, we’re going to become a member of this nongovernmental association. Well, actually the United Nations calls itself intergovernmental organization. And all the other ones that are in it are nongovernmental organizations.

Alan: That’s actually the Soviets. That is the real Soviet, because the Soviet system, Soviet meant that. It was rule by NGOs or councils. And that is how the United Nations is comprised. It is along those same lines.

Jackie: Yes, it is. I believe we mentioned this before. I’ve mentioned it before, we have a piece that I transcribed from, right from the source. I think it was back in the early 40s, or it might have been the late 40s, because they were already, you know, doing the UN. We know they were doing it during the Second World War. But anyway, it was called Peace by Pieces, and how the nongovernmental organizations, the NGOs were going to become, well, not the voice of the people, but basically it is the United Nations.

Alan: That’s right. And of course, the NGOs, the biggest ones, the authorized big boys, NGOs are not little grassroots movements. They have buildings and staff and two or three or more floors for an NGO. They pretend to speak on behalf of the public, and they’re funded by the great foundations.

Jackie: The Chamber of Commerce is one of the biggies. And you know, Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts of America are part of the…

Alan: That’s why they set them up. Jackie: Yes. And the YMCAs.
Alan: Anything that would grab the young, especially. I mean, most people go through their lives, and once they’re married or they’re in their twenties or thirties, they’re into the system. And from then on, it’s a rush, a mad rush, until they retire. And so, they always go for the young ones and give them a slightly different, modified system. They keep them apart, and the generation gap, which is encouraged. And so, they can always. And the young ones always adapt so quickly. They’re born into this system, which is different from their parents. They adapt to everything in it so quickly, naturally, they don’t question it. And then the ones that come after them are the same for the next step and the next step. And that’s how they do it. Give us the children.

Jackie: Give us the young. Okay, here I am again. There’s a piece in our children’s section, and it is the very first piece. It’s a statement by Auguste Comte, and he said give us the young and we will change the world. And folks, of course, Alan’s website, Cutting Through the Matrix is linked there, but you can get directly to Alan by going to cuttingthroughthematrix.com, and oh, we haven’t talked about this. There’s a new audio/video that was posted.
What was it, Sunday night, Alan?

Alan: On Sunday.

Jackie: And it is a speech. It is an audio speech. I mean, an actual speech that John F. Kennedy gave, April 24th, was it Alan? 1961? And what he was saying in this speech, folks, was that he was not going to allow to the extent of his power, he was not going to allow secret societies to exist. And if you haven’t heard it, Alan has commentary before and after, and the speech is there. You will want to hear it. Alan, I literally listened to that thing at least four times. Well, because, of course, the language that he used, he didn’t come out and say, you know, the Freemasons and…

Alan: Yeah, because it’s all encompassing. It also included the big boys, you know, the Bilderberg type, the Club of Rome, all the great foundations, because he was linked to these people through the money. He understood the agenda. And, the great foundations, even Weishaupt mentioned using philanthropy, meaning people with big bucks or organizations to force a direction in the world. And that’s what they’ve been doing for a long, long, time.

Jackie: Yeah, and he was giving the speech to the Press Club, was it, and you know.

Alan: This is the same associated press, remember, that has the public scratching their heads, saying, why was he killed?

Jackie: Right. Right, exactly.

Alan: And yet, here he is, talking about…
Jackie: How many people do you think ever heard that speech? You heard it, you remembered it. Alan: That was on the BBC years ago, because it was linked at the time to an oddball documentary on
Freemasonry, and they showed that speech at the time. And it was the same year, in fact, that I went to a friend, a school friend’s wedding, his sister’s wedding. And it was held in a Masonic Lodge. And because it was like synchronicity, where things come together at the same time, the speech and the Masonic exposure documentary, and going to that Masonic, where the function was served, called the wedding function reception. The father of the bride, who was drunk, lifted the son up to the keyhole, which was about eye level of an adult into this room. And he lifted me up, and I saw the all-seeing eye on the east. It was coming down from the roof on a pipe. And this big huge eye, and below it was a sort of pyramid thing, a stepped pyramid. And that stuck in my head, like synchronicity. And that’s when I started looking into the secret societies, because these lodges were all over the place.

Jackie: Remember when he mentioned the press as the on-party press. That was quite telling, wasn’t it?

Alan: Well, it’s true. It’s not really even what we think of as parties. To me, there are no sides. There’s only one side.

Jackie: Right, exactly, basically that is what he was saying. Alan: It’s a system.
Jackie: When Republicans are in, they bash Republicans, when Democrats are in, well, it depends on what they’re doing, what their handlers are having them do, I guess I should say.

Alan: Yeah, because these people remember, most of them on the federal levels are all millionaires. They all have the shares in the same corporations. They know the future agenda, that’s why they do their investments and so on, into those big corporations. They know where the world is going to go, and they put on this dog and pony show for the public.

Jackie: Lining their pockets.

Alan: They line their pockets. And there’s nothing new in that, if you look at the histories of Britain, it was such a… Jackie: Well, what do you think they did in Rome, Alan?
Alan: I know. And that’s why even the Roman Senate was called the Senate. And the Senate is an Egyptian word, it means the chess board.

Jackie: Oh, wow, I didn’t know that. Did you tell us that before? Alan: I don’t know.
Jackie: Chessboard.

Alan: I think I’ve mentioned it before. Because that’s what the chessboard was called in Egyptian. And, of course, that’s why even in Britain now they have the black and white squares in the House of Lords.

Jackie: That’s an Egyptian word? Oh, my. Chessboard, oh, Alan.

Alan: That’s why you have the black and the white, the profane and those in the light, is light and black, you see. Jackie: And those that they say are in the light, are the ones that are in the dark, right?
Alan: Oh, yeah. Jackie: Sure.
Alan: So, they can control the real world, and they give a different version for the profane, those who are in the dark. And that’s why the Owl, of course, Sophia, Wisdom, is one of their high symbols, because the Owl that sees in the dark is the Land of the Blind. It’s all masonic. It’s high occultic, really.

Jackie: Well, I listened, I told you this. Is that archive to your broadcast that you did Sunday night on Feet to the Fire?

Alan: Actually, I think it’s going to be streaming. It’s been showing in different places, in different countries. Jackie: No, I’m not talking about the television thing. Feet to the Fire, the one you did ten to…
Alan: Twelve.

Jackie: Yeah, ten to twelve, Sunday night.

Alan: I think that’s maybe up on there, on the website now, I think.

Jackie: Okay. Well, I would like to urge our listeners to go and listen to that. It was excellent. And I, as told you, I thought that the host, I mean, you could hear his intelligence, his sincerity. He just sounded like a for-real guy, Alan.

Alan: Yes. He was interested for sure. Jackie: Yes, he was. Yes, he was.
Alan: And also that TV one will be broadcast on the 25th, I think. And it’s been shown in some countries as well. So, that was the Out There one. Out There. And once it’s been broadcast, I’ll put it up on the site too.

Jackie: Cool. And he asked you a question that was really the same question that I had asked you, because it has been kind of confusing, why are they letting you say all these things. And would you respond, tell our listeners how you responded to that.

Alan: I think I said on that one, that was really, they’re so cocksure of themselves now that they really don’t care. They know that the public is off balance with everything else that’s going on. And people generally look at their immediate needs or fears or whatever, so they can always keep them off balance about the coming bird flu or whatever, you know. They’re terribly sure and arrogant of it. They’re very arrogant right now, in fact.

Jackie: Well, they say that there will come a time that there’s nothing anybody can do about it. Now, that is arrogance. I mean, when we look back, well, I can’t look back the way you do. But from what, you know, you have shared with us, they’ve tried this over and over and over again, and maybe they haven’t been as close this time.
That’s what you said before, that you had a sense, because they didn’t have as high technology as they do today, but, they’ve never been successful.

Alan: Well, maybe it’s a saving grace in a sense. Their defect is their craving for power. It’s abnormal. I mean it’s not normal. It’s beyond the norm. And because of that, their ego is incredibly huge, and there’s only going to be one throne here for the world, and each one of the big boys wants to be seated there, you see. So, their Achilles heel is always when they start fighting each other. They’re not concerned about the little people. Although, the little people can take a terrible beating, as the Titans dance around in their death throes. But it’s very possible they’ll start on each other, eventually.

Jackie: And another saving grace, is, as you said, when enough people wake up to it, and become enlightened, self- enlightened, if you will, because that’s the only way it’s going to happen, although, people like you, who share the information, and plant the seeds, Alan, maybe begin that search, that seeking of knowing thyself, because there’s nothing else to seek, when enough people are enlightened, and will it to be another way, it can be another way.

Alan: Yeah, but it takes an awful lot of work. Because I never say I’m here to save this system. You see most people truly want to save it.

Jackie: I’m not talking about saving the system, you know that.

Alan: You see, most people, really, and that’s why they listen to the shortwave, the big shortwave stations. Jackie: We’ve got to save the country, take our country back.
Alan: Let’s just stop time here. Don’t let it get any worse. Let me live my life out the way I want it to be, and then you can start time again.

Jackie: I mean, it’s bad enough now, but just don’t let it get any worse. Because, I can handle it. I’m still alive.

Alan: And I’ve got my hobbies, and so on. So, that’s what they really want, and they don’t realize that even the system we live in today was manufactured this way.

Jackie: However, we’re talking about the masses. And there are those who have for some reason escaped that. Those are the ones that this message is for, aren’t they, Alan.

Alan: That’s just exactly right. That’s exactly right. The ones who have died a thousand deaths, as they say. And you die off to everything that you thought was…

Jackie: Oh, man. That’s not easy either, you know. That’s a real journey. That’s a real trip.

Alan: And yet, you have to do it to really understand who you are, and what life is all about, you have to die to all the things that you took for granted. And you have to question them all first, before you even get there. And you realize,

my God, there’s nothing in this system that really is natural.

Jackie: Yes, and I think, I just have always felt this, that people who are listening to Sweet Liberty, that they wouldn’t be listening if they weren’t at least potentially part of that realm of people who are seeking truth, who want truth, and who are willing to accept and face it, no matter how…

Alan: Hard it is.

Jackie: Oh, how hard it is. And there is a time of disorientation, and I know you recall this, when, Alan, literally, and it seemed like it lasted for weeks. I was walking around and doing things, and feeling like I wasn’t here, because anything I looked at, everything I looked at it just wasn’t real. And you said, well, that’s a good place to start. Let it all go. And let all of the American Dream… Alan, they said it right, didn’t they? They gave us a Dream. They made it the right thing. They said, it’s a Dream, folks. And we said, oh, the American Dream, only in America. And I cried, you know, when we were singing the National Anthem. When you’re as into the system as I was that way, and I bet you a lot of our listeners are or were. It is, it’s not an easy thing to do. And yet, once you’re out of it, there is a freedom. And we are going to take about a three-minute break, here, and so folks, we’ll be back after this, Alan Watt.

(Commercial Break)

Jackie: So, we give up our dreams, Alan. Our American Dream. What do they give you guys in Canada?

Alan: They had a bit closer to the American Dream, they had material substance for a while, but of course, the agenda had a different future envisaged. And, in fact, at the end of World War II, so many factories had been built in Canada to deal with the war production, that Canada was rated, even by the UN, to be one of the world’s leaders in industry.

Jackie: Even, even above the US?

Alan: At that time. And because it’s a socialist country under the British Commonwealth, the same system. So, they’d used this public/private deal long before we heard of it here, or in the States. And they had to take the taxpayers’ money and build all the factories. But, of course, they had a different plan scheduled for Canada. And they actually started to deindustrialize back in the late 70s, about the same time as they were deindustrializing Britain.

Jackie: And killing the family farms here in America.

Alan: Oh, yeah, yeah. Because then, and of course, the United States, you never get the truth on anything. You know, people who work for government, swear oaths, to the secret oath basically for their service. And they’re under the Official Secrets Act. So, they know that there’s an agenda at all time.

Jackie: Wait, say that again.

Alan: Everyone who works in government takes the oath. Jackie: In US government too? They take secret oaths?
Alan: It’s an oath to secrecy. That they must keep everything, in Britain, it used to be 35 years after retirement, you couldn’t speak. So, in other words, you’d be dead.

Jackie: You mean, if I became a US Congressman, I’d have to make an oath. Take an oath.

Alan: Under National Security. And you see, you’ve got to understand what they’re talking about when they say National Security. And it’s a corporate state that you know nothing about, then to the public. And of course, they

have the agenda for that nation. So, they cannot disclose it. So, we always find out fifty years after the fact as to when this part or that part was signed, or, you know. We’re always way behind in reality, our reality.

Jackie: Well, and not only that, but think about this. They continue to change their definition of National Security. Alan: Yes. Because in democratic countries, democracy has always been flexible.
Jackie: And securing the homeland. You know, Alan, when I saw that phrase. We’re securing the homeland. You look up the word, secure, it’s they’re securing their property, so to speak.

Alan: You fix it, you tie it, to secure something.

Jackie: Yeah. It has nothing to do with securing the people, or offering some type of protection. Whatever. I mean, it’s all such a sham, but just look up the dog-gone word, securing, and we’re securing the homeland. And then you have to say, whose homeland? When was America ever referred to as “the homeland”?

Alan: And no doubt, somewhere in the federal government, there will be a legal definition of what they mean by that. And that’s what someone can do a search and find out. So, they will have a legal definition of it.

Jackie: You know, I have something I’m going to email you and ask you to take a look at it. I’ve been getting emails from the Homeland Security Investment. And I sent it over to Darren. And I said, Darren, would you please look at this. It looks like. I mean, what else could be called Homeland Security. And I keep getting these emails about all the good investments and how their investments have grown, and etc. And it’s the Homeland Security Investment. And I thought, well, here we are, a separate corporation from the US government incorporated. So, I’ll send it over to you, and see if you can take a look at it and see. Darren just thought it must be not something that was actually connected with the Department of Homeland Security. But, what company would have the right to call themselves Homeland Security?

Alan: Well, an authorized one. Because Federal Express is not Federal. Or even the Treasury. Same sort of thing. So, yeah, most things are actually privately owned, as you know. In fact, this whole public/private deal. And this was discussed back in the 1950s.

Jackie: Public/private partnership.

Alan: It was a general from NATO. He talked about the future armies being basically private armies, owned by corporations, you know, secure various mineral wealth, etc, in different countries. So, most things really are private today. That’s why you’re a private when you join the army. You’re now owned. You’re privately owned.

Jackie: And that’s why you own dog tags. I mean, you wear dog tags.

Alan: And of course, that’s really what it means. But everything is done through this corporate structure and corporate legalism through the names that we’re given. Even the countries’ names, etc. And even Washington
D.C. You know, it’s a corporation. So, everything is done through private corporations, really. Because they rule over the public, it doesn’t mean it’s your system, it’s actually their system. It’s a private system.

Jackie: You know, that one. Oh, I know what it was. Greg S. I listened to that. And, you know, they were talking so much about the Jesuits, sort of like, okay, it’s all the Jesuits. Well, Alan, I read Tupper Saucy’s book, and unless he fabricated all of the bibliographies and footnotes, they could lead one to believe that the Jesuits were behind everything.

Alan: Remember, years ago, I said to you on the radio, I said, if you look into it’s this group, it’s that group. It’s whatever group. You’ll find lots of books to back it up. And if you read them all, they’ll all appear to be right. And that’s when you realize, it’s all true, because there’s only one big group running them all. And that is how power is, always.

Jackie: So, each of the different societies have their different little deals that they’re going to work. He sent me his book. And he said, if I didn’t like it, would I please send it back. Well, I had so many highlights and notes. I mean, I was really fascinated with this book, and then I get to the end of it, and he says, we have exactly the government that we’re supposed to have. You know, it’s God’s Plan.

Alan: Oh, God’s Plan.

Jackie: Because we’ve gotten so evil, that we have an evil government. So, everything that’s happening is because we’re all so evil. And I thought, oh shit. Excuse my language. And I looked at this book, and I thought, well, I can’t send this back to him, because I had marked it all up. But what a farce, Alan.

Alan: It’s a farce, but see, government can only exist when it has what appears to be enemies, who threaten you as an individual, a member of the public. And they can stand up as governments and say, we’re here to protect you. We want to tax you, and we want to organize you in a different way to defend you and take care of you. So, the more enemies that you appear to have, the better. And, of course, you cannot, in this day and age. And it’s been like this for a long, long time. You cannot have secret organizations working independently. It’s impossible not to be infiltrated. It’s impossible. It doesn’t matter who you are. And it’s been like that for centuries. And they’re all really one, but they keep the semblance going, so it’s to keep the public always confused.

Jackie: And well, they keep the frontmen, the outer portico, so to speak.

Alan: And the public want someone they can identify with. So, if you’re Protestant, you’ll go for a Protestant leader. Catholic for the Catholic leader. Jewish go for the Jewish leader. Black go for the black leader, and so they make sure they supply all the leaders and sure enough, whatever your belief is, your culture, your creed, there’s someone out there to lead you. Take your pick.

Jackie: Yes. It reminds me of the Council for National Policy. All those phony conservatives, Christian conservative leaders. They, I noticed this, when you look at the list of names of all the organizations, like, you know, Larry Pratt, gun owners of America, and Phyllis Schlafly, and I won’t go on and on, but I thought, well, each of them has an agenda. And each of them is a bell for somebody’s button. I mean, you know, the “right to life”-er’s go for Eagle Forum. And the “right to carry and bear arms” is…

Alan: That’s what I’m saying. All these pied pipers come out. And if you watch them carefully towards the end, it all starts going in the same direction before they merge. And they bring all their followers with them. Their followers end up saying, how did we end up here? And so, that’s what I’m saying, whatever you want to believe in, it’s like walking into a big store, a tailor store for a suit. It doesn’t matter what size you are, what height you are, or breadth you are, there’s one there for you ready made. Take your pick.

Jackie: You’ll find something. And they provide it for us.

Alan: And that’s been done for centuries and thousands of years, in fact. That’s why Mystery Babylon, it was hard to pinpoint. That’s why they called it Mystery.

Jackie: What was Mystery Babylon? What is Mystery Babylon?

Alan: Mystery Babylon is everything for everyone. So, you’d have a bunch, say, those priests over in the West there. No, it’s the ones over in the East over there. Oh, it’s those ones to the North.

Jackie: Well, it’s New York City. It’s the Catholic Church. Are you talking about Mystery Babylon in Revelations?

Alan: Yeah, and even before Revelations. I mean, Babylon was a complete system of all religions, degrees of truth, secret societies, etc.

Jackie: You mean, Babylon itself at the time. Whoa.

Alan: Of all kinds. And so, it was hard to put it down as Babylon was, blah, blah, blah. It was everything, it was an entire system of economics, social control, war policies, foreign policies, everything.

Jackie: And now, is it true that where Iraq is where Babylon was. Alan: It was in that area.
Jackie: Do you think that’s connected with why, you know, the minute that they “invaded” that they went into the museums and all the archives?

Alan: We even talked on the air before that happened, remember? And they’d just shown a television program here on CBC, I think it was CBC, and it was about investors in New York and Louisiana, who were already taking bids for the antiques which they would steal from the museums in Iraq. These were big multi-millionaires. These were the go-getter guys.

Jackie: Well, and then the really, really big guys would get a hold of the ancient manuscripts.

Alan: But, here’s the kicker, Jackie. They knew before the American military went in and eventually got to there. Now, it tells you that some…

Jackie: You mean this was before they went into the war?

Alan: Yes. But these guys had already taken the bids. They were cocksure to get what they wanted. How would you be able to say that unless you had contacts in the CIA, who would go in with the troops and cordon off the museums and take the pick? That’s how it had to have been done. That’s how it had to have been.

Jackie: Because, it really is a bedrock of civilization, isn’t it?

Alan: It’s ancient. Even Bill Clinton when he was in, had been on, many thousands of Cruise Missiles had been going over into Iraq every few years. That’s when the embargo and they were starving them all to death.

Jackie: Alan, they were doing by-weekly bombing runs.

Alan: Yes. Putting all these Cruise Missiles from ships. And I used to wonder, because most of them are landing in the desert. And I says, there’s nothing there. But there was something there. There were ancient sites there, archaeological sites, and they were destroying evidence. Which would probably knock religions, etc, out of the window. That’s what I think. They were hitting ancient archaeological sites. And digs.

Jackie: That would what, did you say?

Alan: Knock a lot of the religions out the window. I mean, people don’t realize how powerful a tool the established religions have always been.

Jackie: I’m sure, which the Dead Sea Scrolls would have done. If the Dead Sea Scrolls were found as they said they were, you think about this, they were held under lock and key for fifty years, Alan. Only seven.

Alan: Well, I know, if they’re even genuine.

Jackie: That’s what I said. If there were Dead Sea Scrolls. That’s the problem. Everything we talk about, we don’t even know if it’s real.

Alan: The thing that gets me, some young shepherd, supposedly boys, one day threw stones in and they heard a

clunk, because they hit a jar in a cave. Now, little boys go into all kinds of caves, and supposedly for a couple of thousand years no one had done so? That’s impossible.

Jackie: Well, there you go. Thank you for that Alan. Alan: But these routes were not out of the way.
Jackie: So, here I am, talking about the fact that they had the Dead Sea Scrolls under lock and key, for fifty years, and they probably don’t even really exist.

Alan: See, you can manufacture anything to look old.

Jackie: Exactly. Well, thank you. Thank you. That, you know what, that’s what Cutting Through the Matrix is, isn’t it. You know, you have the perfect label, name for your website. And I think you said, it’s sort of like breaking the spell. You break the spell that has been cast. That’s Cutting Through the Matrix. And you know, we talked about this. This is kind of on the same line. When I was learning about the way they’re teaching children to read.
Look/say reading. And I’m really not off track here, off our point. I was talking to Charlotte Iserbyt, and she said this on the air. I wouldn’t even want my child to learn the Ten Commandments by Look/Say reading. And I said, I don’t understand that, why? She said there’s no transference. Well, I didn’t understand that. Then I had Anita Hoge on, and Alan, this is when I really got it. She said, when we are really learning something, let’s look at the brain like a tree and the brain stem. And when the child begins to learn, all of these synapses are created. Those are the branches, the twigs. And each area, for example, science and geography and reading. And those are main branches. Mathematics. And then there’s all the little twigs. But she said, everything is connected. So, the child actually can think and reason. Now, with look/say reading, they don’t have any concepts. They learn a word, and she said, now, picture the brain with a bunch of dashes in it. Nothing is connected. There’s no connection any place. There’s no ability to reason or think.

Alan: Yeah, well, that’s ideal for a population that’s going to go through big changes. Jackie: Yes, but why did I go into that? I said, I’m not off our point. Where were we? Alan: Well, things like the Dead Sea Scrolls and how they…
Jackie: And the Matrix.

Alan: And the Matrix, because, yeah, I mean, I looked at where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls and, now, for thousands of years the same shepherd boys have gone on the same routes. It’s not like it was a huge, massive country here, you know, like the Sahara or the desert. It was the same general routes. And boys explore everything.

Jackie: Right. But we were talking about Cutting Through the Matrix. And when we were talking about this on the air, my question was, okay. Things that have been brainwashed into people, just these synapses that have this information in it, that they believe. And I asked you, how, how would a person become unbrainwashed? Could those synapses be replaced with actual truth, or would it have to be cross-circuited? And you said, I think it would have to be cross-circuited. Which made sense to me. It has to be a shock. And I think that’s what Cutting Through the Matrix is, Alan.

Alan: Yeah, you have to. Jackie: Talk to people.
Alan: It’s like this stuff. See, people parrot what they’re given to parrot, and Brzezinski said that in his own book, that they give us the topics to talk about. And they always have. And I thought about that one not long ago, where NASA claimed it sent off some multi-billion dollar spaceship up into space to collect some space dust, you know,

and they got something less than one gram or something. And they prattle on about that, no doubt, at cocktail parties people prattled on about this nonsense. And they tell us such utter rubbish, you know. And most of the data in our lives is just that. It’s just data. And it’s like telling us that they send all these shuttles up there to see if spiders can have sex in space, you know. I mean, it’s utter tripe. It’s tripe. Because that’s not the function of those things at all. They’re up there putting up satellites that are going to watch you and monitor you and stuff like that. But they give us rubbish on a consistent, daily basis.

Jackie: They say that those satellites are so powerful that they can see a mole on your butt.

Alan: Yeah, they could. But this is the rubbish they feed us, consistently. And that’s how it’s always been. We’re fed nonsense. Utter nonsense.

Jackie: Doesn’t it make you feel creepy sometimes? Sometimes when I’m outside, and I think, you know, there could be a satellite zeroing in. And it could be like they’re ten yards away.

Alan: Yes, I know.

Jackie: You know, whatever you’re doing.

Alan: And they have so many up there that it boggles the mind.

Jackie: Oh, yeah. Chuck and I used to sit out on the side deck, at night you know, and turn off the lights in the house. And just because it’s beautiful up here and you know, when there aren’t the chemtrails, the stars are, there’s just billions and billions of them. But we just sat there one night, and suddenly, we saw this star moving. And suddenly, he said, that isn’t a star. It’s a satellite. And we watched that satellite make its little trek, and then we kept finding satellites, Alan. They’re all over.

Alan: Yeah, and that’s the ones that you can see. You know. Jackie: Yeah, that’s the ones we could see.
Alan: It’s like the latest NASA thing. They said, oh, they sent another multi-million dollar satellite to start tracking the weather patterns, to see how clouds form and how they move. Oh, gee. They did this long before they started the chemtrails, because they use those patterns to move the chemicals. We’re fed nonsense on a daily basis. And it’s always been that way. And it’s so amazing to me that scientific theories, this is how we’re taught in the bottom Matrix, everything is theory, which is taught as fact. They keep changing the theories every few years without saying, oops, I guess we were wrong with the last ones.

Jackie: I told you about the, well, I read an article, in fact, I haven’t sent it to Darren yet. I read an article, I think in the Tribune. I don’t think I told you about this, but maybe I did. But it was, this article talked about the hoax of global warming. And it mentioned two Time magazine articles. One was from 1974. And the other one was from 2006.
And the one in 1974, talked about we were going into an Ice Age. And I had to find that article, and so I did a search, and dog-gone it, I found it. And they were talking about all the terrible weather that we were having then, the droughts and the floods and all this unusual weather, and it was all because we were about to enter a new Ice Age. And then, you read Time Magazine, 19, whatever it was, it was 2006, it was this year, March something. And it says, “Be Worried. Be Very Worried.” And it tells about all the weird, wild weather. It says, it’s because of global warming. And I’m going to send. I didn’t want to just send an article over there that talked about these articles. I found both of them, Alan.

Alan: And that’s after, of course, the US Air Force said that they would be able to own the weather. Jackie: We’ve got that in our weather.
Alan: It can’t be related of course, eh?

Jackie: But like you said, they just keep changing the story. And you know, from 1970 whatever, to 2006, well, heck, people aren’t going to remember that.

Alan: No, they won’t.

Jackie: So, if you put up both articles, don’t just read an article about those articles but actually read them, you can see the lies. You can see the lies. I’ve got both of those articles ready, and haven’t sent them over to him, and I need to do that. You know, we’re just about out of our hour here. And so, tell our listeners whatever you would like to say.

Alan: Well, they’ve got to find themselves and then empty their minds of all the refuse and garbage that’s been instilled of us, and start thinking for themselves. And they’ll be surprised what they come up with. We can all do it, you know, if we want to.

Jackie: Yes, and you know what it takes, Alan. Quiet time. Alan: Quiet time and thinking time.
Jackie: Well, you can’t think if you’ve got a radio blasting. Alan: That’s right. All you’re doing is following an agenda.
Jackie: You can’t think if the television is blaring. So, the quiet time is the important time, that allows us to get in touch with that part of ourselves.

Alan: Well, we’re using something we’re all given, and that’s our own brain and mind, to think with. It’s amazing how we give it away to others to do our thinking for us. Amazing.

Jackie: Well, it is true though that without that quiet, it’s not going to happen. It can’t happen. Alan: It can’t happen.
Jackie: And for our listeners who have small children, who, my grandchildren, they have their own little boomboxes or whatever. They’ve got headsets and they, you know, when they’re traveling they’ll go ahead and put the headsets on. So, nobody talks to each other. I say, take them away. Explain to the children why I did it, with the grandchildren that summer, and said please just leave it in here and go out there and just hear the birds and hear God’s music.

Alan: And talk to each other.

Jackie: And talk to each other. So, as parents, we have responsibilities for our children. Alan, thank you for tonight. Alan: It’s a pleasure.
Jackie: Thank you. Folks, we’ll be back with you Wednesday night. Darren will be with you, Monday and Tuesday. So, be sure to tune in. Good Night, folks.

 

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Jackie Patru: Alan, thanks for being here tonight. Alan Watt: Yeah, it’s a pleasure on a rainy day.
Jackie: On a rainy day. Yeah, well it hasn’t rained today. It’s been very muggy, but oh, my Gosh, well, let me put it this way. Well, and I thought about this last evening, as a matter of fact, because yesterday it poured off and on all day, but it was just torrential. And I thought if I had planted a garden, it would all be mush now. And the reason I wasn’t able to, of course, was because of my hand. I couldn’t get it. We had two beautiful weeks in May, and I thought about this Alan. Dry, hot, and not humid. So, all of your winter thaw was dried up and the farmers were out there tilling the fields, getting their crops in. People got their gardens in, and two weeks later it started raining. And it’s never really been dry enough since. And the man that is, well, he’s a neighbor down the road. He had some corn planted across the road, and he stopped by today, and he said that his whole crop is flooded out, the whole crop. And, I thought to myself, well, now, you don’t know any time it’s coincidence. We don’t ever know anymore if any weather is “natural weather”. But doesn’t it sound like something that would be done intentionally.

Alan: Well, we know they’ve already been doing it intentionally in the past. And they’ve given the farming areas droughts for years and then floods. And even today, amongst the thunderstorms, and the rain, when the clouds were breaking up, you could see them still spraying between the clouds. So, they’re really going at it.

Jackie: Yeah. As a matter of fact, it hasn’t rained all day here, and it’s raining right now, Alan. It’s their signature.

Alan: It’s their signature. And the mosquitoes are cheering away there, you know, because they just love this weather.

Jackie: Well, what they love is the control of the lives of people, Alan. Alan: I know.
Jackie: And before this, as you called me before, we went on the air, and we were talking about how fast time goes. And I had mentioned to you, that, and I just thought that we would chat about this for a minute, because I’d like your thoughts on it. I wonder if something cosmically is going on, that has speeded up our perception of time. And I read someplace. I don’t remember where it was or somebody told me this, that today, 24 hours is equivalent to what 16 hours used to be. What are your thoughts on that?

Alan: It’s difficult to say, although, we do know that in different times in history, you see the Earth doesn’t go around the sun in a definite circle. It’s more oval shaped anyway. And it doesn’t go in exactly the same path, year after year, there’s variations. And we know at different times, down through the centuries, they’ve had warming periods and cooling periods. And even in the Middle Ages, they didn’t bother building chimneys at one point for two hundred years, because they didn’t need fires inside the houses. And then it was followed by another cooling period and back in went the chimneys. So, this happens up and down.

Jackie: But, it’s a long, slow process, isn’t it?

Alan: It comes on gradually, you know, over fifty, a hundred years. And then it lasts two hundred, and then you go back to the opposite again. So, this does definitely happen. And, of course, time itself is judged by matter moving in space. That’s what time is. And so, it does make sense in a sense, that, since everything else supposedly bends in space, even light bends, then it’s possible that even time could bend itself. You know, so these are all theories that are always getting banged around. I’m sure at the very top level, they understand it, as opposed to the bottom level Matrix, where they give us theories.

Jackie: Yeah, well, I know it isn’t just me. Because everybody I talk to has the same thing to say. They just cannot believe how fast time is flying. The day is gone, before, I don’t know, it’s just, it’s just, it is kind of a weird feeling, isn’t it Alan.

Alan: Again, too, it’s also, we were talking once before about the psychotronic weaponry they do admit they have, and Brzezinski wrote about in Between Two Ages, one of the effects of the constant bombardment of the HAARP type technologies, it’s to effect your mood, your emotion, and it’s very possible that when they put you into a certain frame of mind, time would seem to fly by. That is true. So, if anything is happening, I’d probably think first of all that science is doing it.

Jackie: Well, I do too. I don’t see anything today that would be what we would call natural. Even if it is, I don’t know it, because I see that nothing is, Alan. That’s the way my own perception has become.

Alan: I was reading, now, they’re putting in genetically modified plum trees. And from these modified plum trees, they’re going to bring out the new type of sweetener that will take over the existing ones.

Jackie: A sweet plum?

Alan: I guess so. But it’s a modified one. And I’m sure that everything we eat modifies us. That’s probably the main objective. So, yeah, we’re being heavily re-engineered, and we have been for quite some time.

Jackie: Do you ever buy oranges at the grocery store? Alan: I’ve done it, and they don’t taste like Orange.
Jackie: And tangerine. I can remember tangerines, when you used to go to peel it, if you’d get your nail in there, and the skins would just fall off. And your tangerine would come apart in those little sections. Even what they call

tangerines today, they don’t peel like that. They peel more like an orange. They don’t taste like a… I think we’ve forgotten what food tastes like, Alan.

Alan: It’s the insidiousness of it all. And I know, they admitted a few years ago in the newspapers that even all the coffee is modified, all the coffee beans and shrubs. And the growers were forced to do it by the purchasers. They made them change over or they wouldn’t buy from them. So, it makes you wonder why that was a priority for the purchasers to push this stuff on all the producers. What’s the real effect of all this modified stuff on us, you know.

Jackie: I read an article. I do not know if this article is for real. I would like to find the source of it, as talking about the technology and that. It said that they did a test and that two cellphones, where one cell phone called the other, and then they laid them down and put an egg in the middle. Did you read that, Alan?

Alan: No, no.

Jackie: In an hour, the egg was cooked. Alan: I don’t know.
Jackie: Yeah, see, I don’t know either.

Alan: I doubt that. If it was that obvious, they wouldn’t give it to us. Whatever they do doesn’t have to be so immediately obvious. So, they wouldn’t be that crazy. I’m sure they’d do it, if they could get away with it, mind you. But certainly, the long-term use of the cell phone, I’m sure, has effects on people.

Jackie: Simply because of the waves from the transmitters, the towers, coming right in. Alan: It’s in that frequency that the infrared is in with the microwave type frequency range.
Jackie: There you go. Well, microwaves can cook eggs. You know what? I guess it would be pretty easy for somebody to do that test themselves, wouldn’t it?

Alan: It certainly would, if someone has got two phones. I guess that’s an addict, has one for each ear. They want to hear in stereo.

Jackie: Or two friends. Everybody has them. I was talking to Amber before you called me, and she was, you know, talking about her cellphone. And I said, Amber, do you know that there have been articles written, allegedly that these are medical, you know, medically proven that cell phones can cause brain tumors. Well, how does it do that, ma? And I said, well, I explained what I understood. I said, the towers that the signal comes from, is being received by the phone, and it’s going right into your head, because the phone is right next to your ear. And then she says, well, everybody has to have a cellphone, ma-ma. That’s what she said. God, love her.

Alan: You see, that’s the problem. They bypass the older ones and go straight to the children, because the children believe the big They, the big They up there, that seems to decide everything, would never do anything to harm us. They truly believe that. They really believe that.

Jackie: And well, then we have parents, who you know. You know, I could see it, if it was totally only absolutely used for an emergency. I could see that. But those are the phones they use.

Alan: I know, and of course they put more and more gadgetry on it for the youngsters to be attracted even more to it. And actually it’s a stepping stone towards monitoring wherever you go. They admit they’re used for that, already. And it’s a stepping stone from computer to that to the blueberry one, where it does the internet and everything, to a chip in your body. That’s the whole, training us, step by step to the final end.

Jackie: And yes. If they can do it with the global positioning with the cars, very possibly. Now, there are cellphones

you can purchase. You don’t have to give name, address or anything, and you can buy time and have them recharged, you know, it’s so much for so many minutes. Now, that would be something. They might know where that phone is, but they don’t know who the heck has it.

Alan: Oh yeah they do. Jackie: How?
Alan: Because they have every person who’s ever used a phone, they have their voice print. They’ve had that for years.

Jackie: Okay. Hadn’t thought of that one.

Alan: Every single individual has got a voice print already recorded.

Jackie: To synthesize our voices. One night, our listeners may think they’re listening to Alan and Jackie, and they’re listening to, whatever, synthesizing the voice.

Alan: Yeah, you see, we’re really living in the past all the time. Because the whole object of having power is keeping power. And you keep power by never sharing all the latest with the public. In fact, you train the public to believe that they’re on the cutting edge all the time and whatever is new in the stores is the utter latest of its kind.

Jackie: Or they’ll say, within two years we ought to have this perfected. Alan: That’s right.
Jackie: When, in fact, they’re using it on us already.

Alan: I mean, they were using solid-state circuitry, micro-circuitry back in the ’40s and ’50s, before we even heard of a transistor. So, sure.

Jackie: Well, talking about the weather, well, we were. I wanted to let our listeners know that, I did, I was able to send those articles over to Darren, and he’s got them posted. I thought they were important, because, in 1974, I did mention this last week, I believe. Time magazine had an article in there called, “A New Ice Age”, and they said that the planet had been cooling for the past several decades, and they did say too, that the, I believe they said it, that it is a slow process. But that it looks like we’re going into a new Ice Age. Well, then, here we are in 2006, and both of those articles are posted, so people can see them, with their own eyes, in 2006, “Be Worried. Be Very Worried.’ And in that one, the author said, well, it used to be thought that, you know, that global changes happen very slowly. But, suddenly, this one is on us. It’s on us, right now.

Alan: Well, I realized how we can cut back on greenhouse gases, though. Jackie: Quit eating beans?
Alan: No. We could do that too. But what we could also do, is for every good citizen of the planet, you see, because we’re all global citizens now. We can only breathe half as much as we normally do. And that way, you’re not putting so much carbon dioxide out, and you could tax joggers and people like that more for…

Jackie: Sure, for using up more oxygen.

Alan: That’s right. So, we should all practice just holding our breath, you see. And eventually, we can use half as much air.

Jackie: Excuse me. That email has told me this. Betty usually didn’t, I don’t know, I never known of her saying

anything that she couldn’t back up. It was in a phone conversation though. But, she said it was the Rothschilds that were cutting down these rain forests. And when you think about it, they’re behind the environmentalist movement too, becoming their own opposition, the cutting of the rain forests. But think about the loss of oxygen, Alan, because the trees give out. What do they give out?

Alan: Oh, they give out oxygen. Jackie: And take in the carbon. Alan: Dioxide.
Jackie: Well, that’s a lot of trees, Alan.

Alan: But, you know, a lot of it is overblown, as well. It truly is. You know. Jackie: A lot of what?
Alan: The propaganda we’re given to make us believe things. That they’re cutting down the rain forests, and clearing it all, yada-yada-ya. Because, I mean, if you come into Canada for instance, just go north of Toronto, and once you get past the farming lands, you’re going to see nothing but forests for hundreds of miles in all directions. And they do timber it. They don’t clear cut. They timber though. And you know, there’s plenty of trees, and so on. They’re always getting us panicking about something or other. That doesn’t mean that they’ve never clear cut in the past. They’ll always show you the same pictures over and over to give the youngsters the wrong point of view.

Jackie: To get them to be environmentalists.

Alan: Yeah, I’ve seen the same scene of a clear cut they’ve used for donkey’s years in one place in BC, you know. They keep showing you the same one, over and over and over, in all the propaganda talks that they have. But a lot of it’s definitely overblown. Because they’re always creating crisis. Most crises are not based on fact. It’s like the bird flu.

Jackie: And then they get people sending money to save the rain forest. Alan: I know, a lot of people fell for that.
Jackie: Well, I’ve fallen for almost all of them. I adopted little tortoises. What else did I adopt, something else that was becoming endangered. I sent a donation, Alan, when they were refurbishing the gift that what got from the Grand Orient Lodge, the Statue of Liberty. I sent a fifty-dollar donation, because I thought it was so cool that they were doing that.

Alan: That’s a lot of brass-o, yeah. But, no, they’ve always got us doing something, and we’re always at the bottom of the ladder in the knowledge field, and there’s always a scam going on somewhere. If nothing else they’re scamming our mind, as well as our wallet. But it’s primarily the mind. They rob us of our mind, you see. To come to any factual conclusion, you must be supplied with all facts. We never are. We never are.

Jackie: Right, you know something. This thought just happened in my mind. I was just like, I wasn’t just like everybody else. I never have been. I mean, I didn’t go along with the crowd. I didn’t go along with styles. But I believed in all this stuff. I’ve told you this. I’ve said it on the air. I was so wrapped up in, in their lies, well, you know, like adopting little turtles, and having people call their US congressmen to stop a terrible bill, and all of this stuff. And suddenly, it’s almost like, when I did wake up, it was like with a bang. And I wonder that if maybe I went through this, so that I can relate to people who are there. Where I was, I can relate to it, Alan.

Alan: See, there are so many ways of viewing reality. And it all depends on how you’ve been indoctrinated, by the establishment. They give you a version of reality. That’s why people can’t fathom out that anything would be done

to them to hurt them, if they’ve swallowed their 6 o’clock news reality and their education reality. They can never figure it out, so that the big boys have all contingencies planned for themselves. Because, number one, they must always save themselves, if there was something real. They have underground places they could live for centuries, probably, if they did anything on top of the planet. They have Arks, and it’s been on television, from the World Wildlife Fund. They have these big places they call arks, where they have the seed of the planet, they have the genes of every single animal and insect you could imagine and plant, stored, and they call them arks. And one of them is in Louisiana. And these are huge cryogenic facilities. And they’ve successfully, on the public broadcasting program I watched, they’ve successfully implanted them, different species of animals, after being cryogenically frozen, at least their sperm and the ovum, and implanted other animals and brought them to term. So, they can make anything reappear on this planet they wish to.

Jackie: Do you think, do you suppose maybe the story of Noah’s Ark was a story of the same? I mean, really, when you think about it, an Ark that was big enough, two of every single animal on the planet, and you had to feed them, and you had to get rid of their…

Alan: The muck. Well, that’s why Noah, Noah, the first thing he did when he hit land was to grow a vineyard and get drunk. He needed a break from all that, you see.

Jackie: If I’m not mistaken, I think that Jehovah was, smelled the sweet savor of cooking meat, and was glad.

Alan: Well, it got me too. I mean, how did they sacrifice if they only had two of everything, because if you’d sacrificed everything, you’d only have one left.

Jackie: Yes. Well, maybe they took enough for the sacrifice.

Alan: Well, I guess they must have. But yeah, I tell you, it’s such a…

Jackie: Do you think that that was an… I mean, we know the story. It has to be an allegory, but do you think that would be a possibility that the same thing happened another time, and that they already had that technology?

Alan: Well, I don’t know about that technology, if they were that far. We don’t know. There’s a lot of modern books, more into the fiction than reality. However, we do know that peoples in past times have had safe places, where they have stored grain and food and stuff like that in mountains. We know that the Sumerians came from the highlands, and even the grain that they planted was brought from the highlands. It was much older. So, they brought that with them too. So, most ancient peoples have records of catastrophes and surviving, and having these store places for food, etc. That’s definitely been done before. However, this thing with the Arks. Now, that’s just the World Wildlife Fund, that’s headed by Prince Philip. And the facility in Louisiana was a multi-million dollar facility, run by a professor, who also teaches at a university there. So, these are not little, little, these are serious things. And I wouldn’t be surprised if the space station, the international space station, ISS or Isis, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s another ark, you know. See, you can get most of the stuff for the planet in a huge deep freeze, you know.

Jackie: Yeah, I guess you could, couldn’t you, if it was DNA.

Alan: And it sure saves mucking out the byre type thing. There’s no mucking out doing there. Jackie: So, what have you been up to?
Alan: Oh, just trying to survive, basically, and get done what has to be done out. Between just living and cooking and on the phone to people, talking to people, just getting by really. Just getting by.

Jackie: Yes. It’s interesting you say that. You know, cooking. It does take up a lot of your time, and you have to eat.

Alan: Yeah, the basics.

Jackie: And then you have the mess you made, and that has to be cleaned up. And I thought about that. I thought, geez, if you had all the time you spent, you know, preparing your meals. You’d have more time to spend to do stuff.

Alan: Well, they’ll do that for us eventually. We’ll be like Seven-of-nine. When we’re all one, you see, we’re all linked to the one computer, you’ll just go into a cubicle at night, and you’ll get fed intravenously, and programmed for the next day’s tasks. And so, we won’t have to go through all of this. That’s what they’ve got planned.

Jackie: You know that for sure. I mean, you’ve actually read this?

Alan: That’s what the brain chip is all about. That’s what the Loyola meetings were all about, the worldwide meetings they held at university was about that very topic.

Jackie: We’d get an injection in the place of meals.

Alan: Oh, yeah. I mean, ultimately, you’ll run on what they will say is total efficiency. And at the moment, according to the big boys, we’re just too inefficient, and they must make us evolve, you see, to the—the great leap forward is to be done scientifically. It always was to be done scientifically. And that’s what they mean by that. They’ll make us far more efficient as creatures or servants, you might say, and that’s what they have in store. They have a brain chip eventually for everything. All we’re doing is being trained, step by step to the next step, to the next step, until what’s the big deal if they put a chip in your head, and you can see a movie in your optic centers, you know, inside your head. That’s where it’s all to go. That’s not the real reason to give it to you. That’s the bait to get you to take it. But eventually, you’ll just get fed intravenously.

Jackie: Well, they could give you enough calories.

Alan: Oh, yeah. And they can also alter your whole metabolism.

Jackie: Okay, so in other words, the body would be so modified by that time, if it ever happens.

Alan: Oh, it’s going to happen. I mean, all the science magazines, the science magazines for the last twenty years have had articles out on the different kinds of humans that they can make if they want to. Right now.

Jackie: I know that, but, you know, just because it’s what they intend and it’s what they’re planning, and that it looks like they’re so infallible, but we don’t know that it’s going to happen.

Alan: Right now there’s nothing to stop them. In fact, the children who are maybe five, six right now, or ten even, wouldn’t mind if they could become like the heroes in their comic books or their movies.

Jackie: Well, is this for sure going to happen? Why are we wasting time?

Alan: As a counter force, as a counter force, because at least if people hear what we’re saying. If people don’t speak out and point out what should be obvious to people, then the people won’t know to tell their children.

Jackie: But, if you are convinced that it is going to happen, let me tell you something, Alan. If I was convinced it was going to happen, I wouldn’t be doing this radio broadcast.

Alan: You see, they’ve already got a guy with a brain chip in Britain, that Professor Warwick, I think his name is. Now, whether he’s really got it, I don’t know. I don’t know if it’s a PR stunt to get us used to the idea, or what, you know. But I know back in the ’50s and ’60s they were doing it with animals, the same thing.

Jackie: Is this the guy that walks into his office, and the computer turns on? Alan: I think so.

Jackie: He gets every, I mean, instead of having to put a print or something to open the door, the doors open for him.

Alan: Initially, I think he had one in his arm. But now, supposedly, he’s got one in his brain, you know.

Jackie: Oh, yeah. I think that’s when I read it. He had one in his arm. Alan, now you said there’s nothing to stop them, it is going to happen.

Alan: There’s nothing to stop them.

Jackie: But wait. We’re going to have to take a break here. And I’d like you to tell me, when we get back on the other side, why you’re doing everything you’re doing.

Alan: I just told you, because someone has to tell them the other side of the story. Jackie: Why, if it’s going to happen?
Alan: A lot of people will go for this. Just like they’ve gone for the cell phone. You can’t stop them. Jackie: When you say it’s going to happen, there’s nothing we can do to stop it.
Alan: You can’t stop it. You can’t stop people going ahead.

Jackie: In other words, you’re not saying it’s going to be a global thing and that nobody will escape it.

Alan: That’s right. I mean, eventually, there are people who will hang out against everything. And then, then it comes, the final thing. They don’t like forcing people to do things. They prefer to make it impossible for you not to. That’s how they get round things. But already, I mean, the biggest fad in the world right now is for the cashless chips to get inserted in youngsters’ arms. And they started that, it first started, I think, in Holland for nightclubs. So, you get a prepaid amount of money swiped into this chip that’s implanted in your arm, and you can get into this really hot club, you know. Now they’ve got one in Spain opening. It’s opened up, they’re doing the same there. And the company that’s doing it, is based, I think in California. And the guy who happens to be the head of this company, getting all the youngsters in, using sex, it’s the old hormonal drive again. If you want the hottest places to meet the opposite sex, you must go to these big clubs, the hottest clubs out.

Jackie: And you can’t get into the clubs without the chip?

Alan: That’s right. And so you can just charge the chip with so many dollars, and you don’t have to pay money for a drink. It’s deducted automatically from your chip.

Jackie: They would scan you in other words.

Alan: And this is the big trend. And the guy who is out promoting this, just happens, just happens, listen to this, to be an ex-member of the NSA. (Chuckle) What a coincidence.

Jackie: Well, they have a revolving door, anyway, we know that. They go from one.

Alan: Well, he’s still working for the NSA. I mean the NSA, they want everybody chipped. That’s the bottom line. So, here you, all you do is dress it up and make it sexy. And the youngsters go for it, because they’re driven by hormones and not their head.

Jackie: I think it would be very good, if when you’re on a program, that if you say something like that that you would qualify it. Because, the way it’s said, it’s going to happen. It’s real nonchalant, and there’s nothing to stop them.

Alan: Yeah, but you’ve got to accept that never in this world has the whole population of this planet said no about anything. It’s never happened before.

Jackie: I understand, but what I’m saying is, I don’t think it’s your intention to put people in a mindset of just hopelessness, because, I, I don’t know if you’re aware of how people hang on your words. They listen to you. And they take you very seriously.

Alan: Yeah, but they do know, they do know this, you know, that this is the next step. The thinkers already know this. They already know this.

Jackie: I don’t think you’re getting what I’m saying.

Alan: I do hear you. But the thing is, the thinkers already know it. And I think the thinkers already know that I’m not saying this is going to be inevitable for everybody. Now, it might come to a time where they try and pass it all by law, you know. That might happen. I don’t know. They’d prefer it not, though. And right now, it’s promoted through all their movies. You can’t watch a sci-fi movie now without seeing all this stuff in it. And that’s what they said at Loyola. They would promote it through movies, cartoons, novels, you know, and make this an exciting thing to have. So, you’re in a world where most parents don’t even communicate to their children. In fact, the parents would be, you know, shocked, if they found out even what the children are being taught at school. Because they get taught about this kind of stuff and the coming scientific age, etc. So, that’s your big problem. The parents have already, in fact, the parents, they just pay for the upkeep of the children. And, like Bertrand Russell said, he said, the state will indoctrinate them. So, you get the state and the media in cahoots. And they sure do get indoctrinated well.

Jackie: Well, I guess that if I thought that it was inevitable, I would spend my time doing the things that I like to do. You know, I would start taking tap lessons again, and I’d start painting, and I would totally spend the time in pleasantry. And in my mind, knowing, that with God, Creator, all things are possible. And you’ve said it yourself, they’ve never, ever succeeded, and they’re not going to this time. It doesn’t mean that there isn’t going to be a lot of bloodshed and a lot of, you know, all of what we’ve talked about going on. But for them to be successful, I doubt it.

Alan: Well, even to be successful, they’ve got to get… Jackie: Everyone.
Alan: Well, they’ve got to get at least 65% of the public to agree with them or to go along with it. Jackie: Well, thank you for that.
Alan: And that’s generally what they’ve always. They can pretty well always. In all polls that are taken, there’s really the same percentage really that you’ll find go along with anything. Just to get along. And so, they can always count on those people.

Jackie: Remember we talked about, there’s two things that made me think of Brave New World. No, excuse me, Nineteen Eighty-Four, George Orwell’s book. When I said it one time to you, I said, one thing I didn’t understand in that book is why they went to all the trouble to torture and torture and torture Winston, until he finally said, yes. He had to, yes, I love Big Brother. And then killing him. And you said, because if there’s one holdout, they’re not successful.

Alan: If there’s one holdout, there’s a flaw in their whole belief system.

Jackie: Exactly. So, there we go, Alan. That’s another way of looking at it, isn’t?

Alan: Oh, it is. There’s no doubt with this bunch that are in power that do think they’re gods, they won’t be happy

until every knee bends. That’s a fact. And one person standing up, or turning their back on them is enough to set them off on a rage, you know. See, it’s interesting. See, people have always sought for a god, always, down through the ages. And because the individual has a natural… It’s like Carl Jung said, he said, you can’t weigh this, this fact, or feel it or see it or touch it or quantify it in any regular scientific way, but, because everybody, all down through the ages, has occasionally felt, there’s something else beyond all of this. And then, of course, they gave you the priesthoods to use that need, and control you with your own need, you see. So, that’s always been there. So, when you take away all deities, all of that, even the old deities that serve them well, the controllers, that inclination is still there. That’s why they gave the New Age for the New Agers for the Age of Aquarius. They gave it, they gave it to them, you see. And all this oneness stuff. And they will be one, if they all want to get hooked up to the same computer. Good luck to them, you know. But, this craving or need to know that there’s something else beyond you. If they can destroy that, that connection, then there’s nothing between you and them as Gods. And they always said that they would make the state God. They always, even Communists said that. They’d eradicate all the deities and make themselves god over the people. And that’s still what they want to do, worldwide, same thing. And so for them to be worshiped as Gods.

Jackie: So, those in the state are mini-gods, huh?

Alan: Oh, yeah. And that’s what they want. Eventually, down the road, they want an obedient population that will obey the white-coated scientists, the new priesthood, and just do what they’re told when these white-coated scientists speak and order them about. That’s what they’re really after. And it’s so interesting that science is
so close to séance.

Jackie: It puts people in a trance?

Alan: Well, it is interesting that all these big, high chutzpahs in the religions, I’m talking about the esoteric ones at the top, they’re all into channeling, you know. And you look at the supposed knowledge that’s come through channeling, it’s all scientific stuff. It’s all to do with science. And a lot of the so-called famous scientists were into this. Even going back to the 1500s. So, there’s something to this. Where does knowledge come from? Where does knowledge, and sometimes even, thought, where does it come from? They’ve never been able to pinpoint in the brain how you are you. What makes you, you? As an individual. They know if they can damage the part of the brain, you can’t move this or you can’t move that, or even your ability to speak, in a motor sense, is malfunctioned.
But they can’t pinpoint the ghost in the machine. Jackie: The ghost in the machine.
Alan: And so, that’s been a big debate as well. But it also makes you wonder, where did these guys get their thoughts from. What motivates them?

Jackie: Well, you know you’ve said before, and I could not argue with this, even in my mind. I don’t think they’re human.

Alan: Whatever is in them isn’t human. There’s no doubt about that, it’s anti-human. It’s elitist to an insane degree. It’s psychopathic, no doubt whatsoever. No empathy. And so, sure enough, from all those aspects, whatever is in them, is not human.

Jackie: Well, and maybe we talked about this on the air. It wouldn’t hurt repeating, but when, when we first of all, the sense of or feeling of compassion. But when we are emotionless, the emotions are what makes us human maybe.
Without emotion, they have no energy. And I’ve thought about this, and maybe it sounds left-field or la-la land or whatever. Well, I said it a long time ago, but I really didn’t feel it and see it, the way that I do today, that what drives the machine, what drives the plan is the energy that they can initiate. In other words, anything negative, anything that isn’t of love, and that would be, you know, compassion and kindness, and consideration, etc, etc. But anything that isn’t of that is, is fear. But the negative. It’s the negative energy. And I believe that they use the negativity, the negative energy that they can initiate in people. I believe that that’s what’s driving the whole plan, Alan.

Alan: What it is, it’s an alchemical process. That’s what they call it in the high esoteric circles. Jackie: Okay, well expand on that please.
Alan: The earliest form of control was initiated through abuse and the outcome of abuse. And so, horror, fear, worry, terror, can be exploited to a neurotic degree, until you have a Pavlovian system. You change that which is natural into the unnatural system. And that’s the alchemical process. And there’s so many ways that they couch this, of bringing heaven to Earth, or the union of the Sun and the Moon, that’s the old Rosicrucian Union of the hermaphrodite too, as above, so below. It’s even in the New Testament written carefully in there.

Jackie: Where it says male and female, may he them?

Alan: No. It’s written in the New Testament. It’s in there too, where they talk about, what you loose in heaven, you also loose on Earth and vice versa. That’s a spell, you know. And these are all alchemical processes of loosening the higher powers into the earth or onto the earth, but controlled through the few, who understand the process. This is what they used to call high magic at one time.

Jackie: Alchemical. A-L?

Alan: And of course, the bottom degrees of all these esoteric groups still maintain – of course, they don’t know the truth, at the bottom. They still maintain that it’s a self-improvement thing, where you arise up Jacob’s Ladder, to heaven, by self-improvement. They don’t realize that it’s much bigger than that. It’s literally a form of bringing the seething powers of Lucifer, if you understand what that means, and again, in the esoteric tradition, it’s loosing that within society, through the chosen ones, the higher initiates.

Jackie: The power of Lucifer, if you understand what that means. Well, would you explain what you understand it to mean, please.

Alan: Well, Lucifer to them, is an intelligence, a great, phenomenal intelligence that manifests itself through logic and science, basically. Logic, science, what used to be called magic was just advanced science. And that only the wise ones with the higher capacity intellects could access it and be used by it successfully. And so, of course that’s what they mean. That’s what Albert Pike said in his Morals and Dogma, when they loose the seething powers of Lucifer.

Jackie: What powers? Alan: Seething.
Jackie: Seething?

Alan; Yeah, like a seething sea, you know. And that’s what he means by that. And even in Catholicism, you’ll find that Satan and Lucifer were not one and the same entities. They were two different entities or beings, because the whole story is the esoteric tradition of the occult. The whole Old Testament is. And unfortunately, so is the new.

Jackie: So, when you said, Jehovah is Lucifer. You’re talking about the…

Alan: No, Jehovah, actually in the high esoteric is the God of the World, or the Demiurgos, which the Greeks called him. In other words, although they respect the God of the World, and the natural laws, it’s their job to overcome those laws through science. And so, they always put, they always give great respect to Jehovah for having the natural laws for a primitive people by the way. That’s why it’s written in there. In the New Testament, you follow the laws of Moses, because you were base then. You know, they meant primitive. And I give you the New Covenant. So, this is an ongoing tradition of esoteric religion, going back for many thousands of years.

Jackie: Thousands. Maybe hundreds of thousands, maybe millions. Because you know what, I just wonder if this whole thing reaches to a certain point at a certain time, then it starts all over again.

Alan: Well, they always talk about their thousand years of peace, until again. Jackie: For seven years. What does that, what would be the interpretation of that?
Alan: It means that there’s a form of Utopia. Now, when they talk about Utopia, remember, it’s their Utopia, their plan they’re talking about. It’s a hell on earth for everyone else.

Jackie: Well, not really a hell on earth, because they’re so zoned out, they’re gone, Alan.

Alan: Well, from their point of view, remember there’s two ways of looking at everything they give you. And so they see it from their point of view, where they’ll have their thousand years of peace.

Jackie: Peace for them, yes. But when you think about it, if it came to this point, those who are left here, who are under that spell. Can you hear that storm?

Alan: Yeah, yeah.

Jackie: Part of that system.

Alan: That’s Jehovah listening to you, you know. Jackie: That’s Jehovah, he didn’t like that.
Alan: He’s banging his feet on the sky there. Jackie: I’m going to get smote, Alan.
Alan: Oh, you’ll be smitten.

Jackie: Now I lost my train of thought. Shoot.

Alan: But that’s what it’s all about. You see, the whole thing is an esoteric tradition. It’s down through the ages. The esoteric makes conformity for the elite to rule society. But they always carry their esoteric traditions through it. But it’s all written within there, if you understand it.

Jackie: Well, I understand. Well, I know that you said that a jillion times. Very few of us understand it. So, it’s really nice that you pick these parts and then help us understand what it means, symbolically to them, or esoterically. I’m going back in our conversation here for a minute, where we were talking about, there will be people who just won’t be part of the system. And that, they don’t really care. They’ll just make it very difficult not to be.

Alan: That’s what they do.

Jackie: Anita Hoge said that to me at one time. She said, they don’t care, Jackie if some people live in caves and have their children natural childbirth, which no medical, no dental, you know, just living like primitives again. And think about Brave New World and think about Nineteen Eighty-Four. In Nineteen Eighty-Four, there were the proles. And, maybe you could explain, what the Proles were, because it was different than the other society in Brave New World.

Alan: Well, the Proles in Orwell’s, were the Common people. The people most spied upon in a controlled society are the enablers, the helpers of the top controllers. In other words, all the bureaucrats.

Jackie: Because the Proles didn’t have those televisions.

Alan: Well, they were also pretty well uneducated too. They were entertained, no doubt, etc.

Jackie: Do you know what blew me away about when I was reading about the Proles? These ladies they think, out in the backyard, hanging up their clothes. I hang my clothes up.

Alan: Yeah, and what’s interesting too…

Jackie: Listen. They were talking about how to pick the winning lottery number. And I thought, oh my God, this book was written in 1948. And they had this lottery planned for us.

Alan: And you know why they had it planned. You see, the poor man, he watches all the fame and fortune going on in the movie industry and all this kind of stuff, of what he thinks are self-made people, and thinks that’s what it is, the Great Delusion, because no one gets up there into the big boys’ league, unless they bring you up. So, they give you the lotto. Now, you know why they call it the lotto?

Jackie: No, say.

Alan: Well, because the Pope, who gave the Knights Templar their Charter, was called Lotha, in the Germanic French version, they call him Lotho. His real name was Lothario. And the name for the lotto in Ontario is called Lottario. Just coincidence, of course. And, of course, Ontario, on the postal code, is ONT, which is Order of New Templars.

Jackie: Okay, but going back to Lotto, okay, you said that the Pope handed out what to the Knights Templars? Alan: The charter.
Jackie: Okay, but wasn’t there some kind of a selective system. It seems to me I read about this somewhere, or maybe you were talking about it. Because, the Lotto today is a game of chance.

Alan: It is. And of course, it’s a scam, as everyone should know.

Jackie: And how does that relate to his name? That’s what I’m wanting to know.

Alan: Gambling. Again, it goes back to the scam. It means, it literally means a scam. And the Knights Templars became the biggest bankers of Europe at the time, remember, and a good part of the Middle East too. They became, in fact, they were the first real bankers, international bankers, who brought in a checking society. You could use checks with them. And they would give you notes instead of the gold. And you could cash them in in one of their banks in the Middle East.

Jackie: They carried paper around in their pockets that signified their wealth, yes?

Alan: That’s right. And of course, they were the only ones who could charge interest, as well, so they really were the start of the modern banking industry. And they didn’t have to pay taxes as well, that’s another thing.

Jackie: Well, what about the money changers in the temple? I thought that was the world bank at the time?

Alan: Oh, they were left to take the heat. They were left to take the heat, while the Knights Templars gobbled up the Lion’s share, and when you look at the old maps of Europe, you’d be surprised at how much land they owned all over Europe. They were, if they hadn’t been stopped, they would have ended up owning Europe.

Jackie: And who stopped them?

Alan: Well, it was a King Phillip in France that started, he invited them up there, supposedly on the pretense for a loan, and the Grand Master Mollee came up with a bunch of them, and he imprisoned them.

Jackie: And didn’t he put out an edict that they were, they had to disband them?

Alan: Well, the pope eventually did put out an edict, because, when they found out, this was, this strange Christian Knighthood, remember, they were also a priesthood, first and foremost, and they were knights second. That’s more important, really. And what came out, and had been coming out for a long time, was the strange practices. And they were also connected with the Old Man of the Mountain, that was the head of the Hassassins, or Hashashins, they called them, of the Middle East, who had been running that branch of the occult for a long, long time. They’d become brotherhoods together.

Jackie: Well, did you say that the Knights Templars were, oh, what is the word when they, like the nuns and the priests?

Alan: Oh, celibate you mean?

Jackie: Celibate. Did you say that they were celibate?

Alan: No, they didn’t. They were sworn to relieve each other’s sexual tensions. Jackie: And that’s where the term dog priest came in?
Alan: Oh, long before that. They used the dog priests even in ancient Israel. You can see that on their temple walls, where you turn right for the female house of prostitution and left for the male one. And they say the same in Greece too. They all had the same religion in ancient times, that’s the big kicker.

Jackie: And today. My, my, Alan, what’s new? Alan: Well, I know.
Jackie: The more things change, the more they stay the same. Alan: Well, they change through the Knights Templar.
Jackie: We’re almost out of our hour. I heard the music, dog-gone it. Alan: Dog on it, eh.
Jackie: Yeah. Dog on it. Okay, well, that just was interesting tonight. I don’t know. So, the storm is over. Alan: The storm is over. At least you won’t be electrocuted on the phone.
Jackie: Well, I’m on my headset. I don’t think I’m prone to electric shock on this thing. I think you have to be on a landline, don’t you.

Alan: I would think so.

Jackie: Yeah, it’s real interesting though that now that the broadcast is over the storm is over. Alan: Well, that’s you see. It’s all timed that way.
Jackie: Okay, Alan, well, you take care. Alan: And you too.

Jackie: Thank you for tonight. Alan: Bye now.
Jackie: Bye.

 

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Good Evening, ladies and gentleman, this is Alan Watt, standing in for Jackie Patru, who has sinusitis right now, probably due to the chemtrails that are being stepped up across the country. And I’ve got it too, actually, but we’ll struggle through this hour. I talked to Jackie about half an hour ago. There’s no real format for this broadcast.
Generally there never is. We just go off the cuff, so you’ll have to persevere as I let loose whatever comes to my mind. This is the first of March, and it’s 2006. We just witnessed the end of the Olympic games. I don’t know if you watched the end of it. I don’t watch the games, I watch the beginning and the end ceremonies, because they’re highly telling with the occultic symbology they use in your face. And, of course, it was held in Turin, in the North of Italy, this year. And Turin used to be a stronghold of some of the ancient Cathars and so on, and Albigensians. And at the end ceremony, they showed you the oval, the oval rink or arena. Arena comes from Aaron, of course, the priest, high priest, circle. And it’s an oval shape, and they showed you the big flaming obelisk type tower, with intertwined serpents, really, intertwined, snaking up the tower. And the fire coming out of the top, symbolizing the fire of the regenerative force, or the issue from the phallus, basically. Which you’ll see on many Masonic obelisks across the country. They put one up for Kennedy after he was assassinated in Dallas. And that’s got not a real flame shooting out, just a stone one. I guess that’s because he was shot stone dead.

In this particular closing ceremony, they had dancers, hundreds of dancers dressed up, like Tarot cards, and the commentator said, it’s because this region at one time was heavily into the Tarot card reading, and actually had permission apparently at one time to use them from the church and then it was withdrawn again, and then they were persecuted. And then the dancers made a circle of course, the eternal circle. And then they made a five-pointed star, which is the Masonic five-pointed star that you see, between wall and mart, Wal-Mart, you’ll see it in Freemasonry. You’ll see it on the American flag and many others. That’s fire, air, earth, water, and of course, the added element is spirit. And they claim that the profane, the majority of the public don’t have spirit, so you only get

four points instead of five if you’re the average profane, you see. So I watched this Masonic parade, with other actors being dressed up as red flames themselves, and going around this arena. It’s quite fascinating to watch how everything is put right in front of your eyes, and the majority of the public listen to the songs that are played and might even dance to them, but they don’t really know what they’re watching, or participating in, even, if they’re actually there. But the world is full of a particular hidden religion’s symbology. It is all around us. It’s in all main logos of your major companies and corporations. Carefully hidden or slightly altered pyramids and triangles, and you have the double X, of course of Exxon Valdez, and you have the Crux Ansata, etc, etc, etc.

So, we live in a world where we take everything for granted, simply because all of that which is around us exists. You’re born into it. And like all mammals, you look to your parents, your guardians, to warn you of danger. And if your parents were thoroughly brainwashed, then they don’t warn you. They don’t know. And then the child grows up thinking everything must have evolved this way, quite naturally. And that’s how easy they keep this type of system going, where as Lenin himself, who really had the best education by the top bankers on the planet, because they had to create an opposition to create change, directed change that is. Lenin himself said that the public must never know that mankind could go off in a thousand different directions. They had to believe the one they were born and live in is a natural evolution, and do it unquestioningly. And we do. We’re born into it. And so we go through this strange existence we call life, where immediately you’ll see your national symbols flashed in front of you at school, or on television. You learn very quickly that soldiers are somehow special, if you’re a little boy. And now it’s little girls too, of course. And people who come from no background at all, at the very bottom of the ladder, will get somehow respect from the top of their country, and all the citizenry, if they wear this one form, this uniform. And they never question it from there on. We don’t question what we’re even taught at school, or even why we’re at school, or who designed the school system, and who does it serve.

And of course, what we’re living in, as Karl Marx said, it’s an economic system. Every system since they call the birth of civilization is actually an economic system. And by that, they call it civilization. Meaning, it was an organized priesthood, or many priesthoods, specialized ones, like bureaucrats, from the days of Sumer onwards, that also handled money in the form of gold measure, or later on, gold coin, and of course, controlled trade. And through trade, they created little factory towns, in ancient Phoenicia, for instance. So it’s never really stopped. And they even had Free Trade in ancient Phoenicia, if you think it’s a brand new idea. They were already standardizing the coinage weight internationally in ancient times by the Phoenicians. And they wouldn’t trade eventually. Once they got you hooked on trade, and having your little toy beads coming in, and all this kind of stuff, and even porn. They exported porn which was chiseled or baked in clay with little cartoon characters, and I guess they even gave a prize to their own version of Hugh Hefner in those days. They exported all the same stuff that’s come down through the ages. And at the same time, they brought other priests with them to give them the opposite of the porn, etc, meaning sin and this is how you pay your god off with little bribes, called offerings, and maybe you’ll be allowed to continue with your little sins in secret.

Right up until the present day, we’ve been controlled by an economic system they call civilization. They say it has a plan. It’s called progress. No one, you’ll find, defines for us what progress is. Or those who keep talking about progress never define it for us, I should say. Whose progress? A progress to what ends and to serve whom?
Because we really are being shaped in a very ancient plan that the high occultists, and high occultists, you cannot buy their books in the regular bookstores. The high occultists own all the big publishing companies that churn out the rubbish for the people. They have their own inner archives for themselves, and for their offspring, who take over from them. They said that this Great Work, this great plan to perfect all that was imperfect, left imperfect by the Grand Architect of the Universe, began 4,500 thousand years ago. And this is this part of the plan, because there’s many hints of previous ages and destructions, and so on. Possibly brought about by the same priesthoods, who keep trying over and over again.

And that’s why, when Sumer came on the scene, for instance, it didn’t evolve slowly, from guys dragging their knuckles across the desert floor like apes. No, they arrived on the scene with many bureaucracies as priests. A pantheon of deities to rule every part of a person’s life. A full economic system with trade, internationally, in fact. They even traded with India. We’re talking about 5,000 BC or so. And they didn’t learn this from picking it up piece by piece. You could even get a baked receipt from the supermarket, the open air market, and you got it in fifteen

minutes, which when the computer breaks down at your supermarket, could maybe be a bit faster than the present.

So, we’re talking about an understanding of commerce, science and control of the mind of populations, to make people accept slavery, and a definite caste system. A caste system, where you have an inbred elite, even at the days of Sumer. And that’s come right down to the present day. We see it in India too, with the Brahmans, who claim to be more perfected physically, through their selective breeding, and, of course, they claim they have the best, highest spirits, reincarnated forever, to the present time. And we are going into an age now, we’re into it actually, where the same mystery religion that ran all of the ancient world, is controlling us, shaping our minds, because they laid the foundations for this a long time ago. They shape the mind for years in advance, before the public even know their minds are being directed in a certain direction, and hence the New Age was brought in, ultimately, in the 1960s, first written about in the magazine called the New Age, which was the main publication of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. That was the title of it, the New Age. And they prepare the fields, which is your mind. They leave it fallow, then they plow it, then they harrow it, then they sift it, then they plant the seed. It can take generations to get the crop that they want, but they have it today.

And people haven’t really noticed the rather quick changeover, where in many bookstores, major bookstores, the large shelves, which contained hundreds of the regular Christian books and so on, have all disappeared, and they’re all full of the New Age books. They think these authors just spontaneously arise, but they don’t. And it’s because the mind was shaped long ago for the readers, the present-day readers to accept this new philosophy. Albert Pike, who was the Pope of Freemasonry, the world Pope of Freemasonry, in the late 1800s, and wrote the main treatise on it, Morals and Dogma, for those 33 and below, even though he himself was much higher and belonged to higher groups, stated in there, he says, that we have been behind every major revolution in the world. He said, and we never fail, because we always lay the groundwork. We never begin a premature revolution. And that goes with all change in society, because most revolutions are cultural revolutions. They’re non-bloody, such as the sexual revolution, the feminist, etc, etc. These are non-bloody, but they take a long time to work behind the scenes, prepare the ground, and eventually have everyone accept the new norm. This is part of ongoing revolution, which in high Masonry they call struggle. “I struggle.” That’s why you find that even Adolf Hitler called it Mein Kampf, My Struggle. It’s all Masonic, you see. All sides are Masonic in every battle. Without battle, you cannot have change.

And the laws of nature, being in opposition to each other, such as winter vs. summer and fall vs. spring, show this. And of course, 4,500 B.C. with the beginning of this part of the Great Work, to perfect that which was left imperfect, they said they’d have to use the laws of nature. And change in society, the sheep, you see, the great mass of people are called sheep in all ages, and they have good shepherds, the sheep will not go in the direction they want them to go. In fact they won’t move at all, unless there is a conflict between two sides, on either side. And that way, they’re directed to the next pasture, which is the next part of the age. So, the ancient occultists, above what we know as Freemasonry, who have guided all of this, are simply destroying the old structure. They are builders, remember, they build society, and they build culture. They’re moving from the stage they’ve been at and used successfully for the last couple of thousand years, of Christianity in different varieties and forms. And they’re dismantling it, of course, they’ve been dismantling it for a while. It’s served its purpose. It kept the people obedient to a caste system in Europe, with kings and queens and aristocracy and nobility. They made sure that in the King James version, they put in there that all government comes from God, just to make sure that they would obey, you see.

And the oddest thing of course, down through the ages, is that these European countries, where the people were always recruited, given uniforms, often the first new clothing they’d ever had in their life, and became suddenly respectable, before they went off to get slaughtered. It’s awfully strange that the same techniques which were used then are still used today. They could never really click. They never thought that, how come they shouldn’t kill, and yet, it was okay to kill when their governments actually encouraged it. Not only that, you get medals for doing it, if you live that long, that is. And you would have eventually ticker-tape parades, and you’d be held up for your five minutes in the sun, before you were cast off into the streets without a pension. So, this is the reality of this incredible system, including its history, which we’re given. How they can actually indoctrinate you never to stand up to a tyrannical system in your own country, and even when it is tyrannical, they can tell you to believe in god, and god’s watching you, and don’t kill. But when they tell you to go and kill for economic reasons, for the elite abroad

somewhere, the men just rush off. That’s a tribal technique, a tribal instinct, which the elite understand. They bring out the symbols, the brass bands, or the bagpipes or whatever it is, and the young guys, who run on hormones, and cannot think, they’re too young to know what’s going on, they don’t even know who they are themselves at that age, run off, and either win or lose, although the elite never win or lose, you’ll notice. Generally, the countries’ leaders of both sides will share the loot, the booty, as they used to call it. Where the people, it kept the populations down. So, war fulfilled many functions.

In the 20th Century war was preordained by Albert Pike and others, of various high Masonic institutes, who wrote about it freely about it at one time, and they said that there would be three World Wars. One definitely with Germany, possibly two with Germany. The third one would be Zion against Islam. And we’re seeing that being fulfilled now. H.G. Wells wrote about that too in his novel version, Shape of Things to Come, where he even put Basra in as the focal starting point of the third one, and of course, he was in Britain when he wrote it, and in Basra, is the major area and city that the British troops went into in Iraq, this time. So, these guys know the agenda, and we are simply living a script, pre-written, long before we were actually born. We can find many of the big players belong to the Trilateral Commission. The Trilateral Commission was formed from members of the Council on Foreign Relations for America, which is the American branch of the Royal Institute of International Affairs. Any non- Commonwealth country is called a Council on Foreign Relations country.

And we find that the Trilateral Commission was set up initially to bring in the three trading blocs that Karl Marx wrote about in the 1840s in Das Kapital. Karl Marx wrote this in London, and he was put up by the Rothschilds, bankers, of course, because the rich men of the world always have run the world, since they introduced their money civilization system. And they had to create an opposition to themselves in a sense, or at least the appearance of opposition. To get the Great Work through you must have what appears to be a direct antithesis to the thesis, and that’s why they created a system which was supposed to declare that they would destroy capitalism completely and get rid of the old caste system and bring in a world with experts running it at the top, and scientists, etc, run on reason and logic and yaddah, yah. And everybody would serve the state, and of course, the people at the bottom believed it, and the people in the middle, management level, got a different version, and then the ones up at the Politburo level and even above them, got the real version. That’s how it works, you see. Karl Marx wrote about the three trading Blocs, back in the 1840s, funded by the Rothschilds, who owned the Bank of England. And of course, they also owned the banks in Germany, and Italy and a few other countries. And you find that they funded the Communists.

Karl Marx, also by the way, Karl Marx wrote letters to Abraham Lincoln, they’re in the Congressional records, because he congratulated Lincoln on upholding the unification of the Americas, or the United States, because, in Communist ideology, a strong central government must take over all laws, regulations, etc, over the entire country. And so, for Americans who want to research that, you can look into your Congressional records and you’ll find that, that Abraham Lincoln was in correspondence with Karl Marx, and had tremendous congratulations from the latter on his ability to keep this particular goal, which they both knew, they understood, but the masses didn’t, in mind.

During the Cold War that came on after World War II, there was the so-called arms race. That again is a great thing with war or pretend wars. They can tax the people to the hilt. The people think that they’re being saved, they’re protected. Meanwhile, the money was being funneled into NASA, the NSA, they all have ni-sa sounds, because that’s the Hebrew/Aramaic word for the head, for the head of the Sanhedrin, it’s called, Nasa, or Nasi, if you like.
And that is no coincidence. And so, NASA has been putting more satellites up there for future use, which ultimately will have to do with the controlling of our ID cards, with the active chips in them, which are now out in the open.
They are definitely active chips. And ultimately, the inserted chip is to come afterwards. The card is only a stepping stone. And all the technology was made through budgets getting funneled to these experimental labs to do with what’s happening today, not with what was happening in the Cold War at all, to do with high-tech observation, control of people, through the trick of the elect, of course, which is electricity, which they knew in the 1700s they would use. Benjamin Franklin wrote about it, if anybody cares to look into it.

So, electricity, computers, etc, were mandated for a stepping stone towards where we’re going very shortly, which is to be a totally controlled world, where, as they said in their plan, their great plan, of course, they wrote about it. And

they called it Revelations in the New Testament. That’s written is such exoteric and esoteric language, which is typical of the ancient brotherhood. And they tell you right in there that the age would come where no one could buy or sell without the mark or the image of the beast. It’s the mark, really. And a mark of course, could be a scratch, insertion or whatever. You couldn’t buy or sell. And of course, the cashless society is coming along with this new ID card which every country in the world is putting into place at the same time. In fact, in Canada, they pulled out Stockwell Day recently, and gave him his first thing to tell the public, which was that well, the US is bringing it in, and Britain has brought it in, and other countries in Europe are bringing it in, so we must bring it in too; we can’t be left behind. And I guess that logic, which they always use for this kind of thing, would mean that if they’re eating fetus in China, then I guess we should be doing the same thing here. So, there’s no logic. It’s an agenda, and that’s the reason it doesn’t really make sense to us. This ID card, according Stockwell Day, will also be your international passport. He did say, it’s not just a national card, it’s an international card, which will tell you that the regional and international computers, supercomputers, are already set up to take these things.

And they were set up years ago, because back in about 1995, Canada bought five super Cray computers, and it was written about at the time. Each supercomputer could handle technically all the data in Canada, and the reporters in the Toronto papers were scratching their heads wondering why little old Canada was buying all these super Cray computers. These things take buildings to put them in. They are nitrogen cooled. These aren’t your little tabletops. Australia at the same time, in the early ’90s, mid ’90s, was doing the same thing. And some reporters, I have them on videotape, talking in the mid-90s, were talking about this. They said, well, you know, there’s going to be a coming ID card, don’t you. So they all know this. 9/11 was simply the Pearl Harbor event that Brzezinski talked about must occur to get the people motivated behind the war which was to begin, according to his book, The Grand Chessboard, published in ’98, it would begin in Afghanistan, which it did, and then go over to Iraq, then into Iran, and then Syria. And they would finish off the job that Britain began, of standardizing the world into one system, one legal/economic system, educational system, worldwide, because we all must become one.

The real meaning of “one” is not what the New Agers are dreaming about. That’s all the stuff that’s been fed to them, by the big boys who churn out their books for them. The oneness that the big boys are talking about is actually a zombie land basically, a Borg land, where most of the public will simply be programmed for the work. They’ll be unable to think of themselves as a distinct individual.

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. I think I’m back. We generally get a bit of music there when it starts again. First of all, I’ll tell you, that I’m on again on the X-zone radio, tonight, which will be 1am Eastern. And that’s broadcast on a whole bunch of AM stations, as well as the internet radio. It comes out of Hamilton, Ontario. And that should be a pretty good program, I think, or broadcast. I hate the word program, because we’re all being programmed. It’s also being broadcast in Australia and the UK and other countries too. On March the 5th and 12th, I’ll be on the internet radio, which is called Eye on the Future with Hehpsehboah. And I know that will roll well, because there’s a bit of interaction there, which helps to give it a bit of fire.

So, things may be picking up, it’s hard to tell how long we have, really, to discuss things which must be discussed before it’s forbidden. We’re almost at that stage now, where if you say anything contrary to the present agenda, it’s called anti-government, which is a direct translation from the Soviet term used over there, as was political correctness a direct translation from the Soviet term. So, the Soviet is actually here. The Soviet system is now merged with the capitalist system, and that’s what they call the third way, which Mr. Gingrich was talking about, as he tossed out Mr. Toffler’s books, called The Third Wave. It’s the merging of the two into the one system for global reconstruction. A Communistic, overbearing bureaucracy to deal with every part of an individual’s life, with the usual elite at the top above all of that, who are called the dominant minority, according to Plato. They call them the dominant minority, the inbred group at the top, who own the wealth of the world, with their helpers down beneath them.

This is the world we’re going into, and it’s a part. It’s a step-by-step world, until they have literally us implanted with these brain chips, which are talked about at the Loyola meetings, the World Science Meetings, sponsored by the US

Department of Commerce. Where the scientist said, it’s all ready to go. All they had to do was to get the people to accept this chip, inserted into their body, would be to start putting it into cartoons, promoting it at kindergartens and schools, and putting it in novels and movies as a good thing to have. And they already are putting them in all of those things, of course. Preparing the ground, again, the field, plowing it, harrowing it, and then planting it, and the people will think it’s a natural evolution, once more. However, Arthur Koestler, who worked on this technique of lobotomizing the mind said, it must be done for World Peace. Peace means peace from the people. That’s what it means. It means that the people won’t have to have entertainment and sports and all this kind of stuff to keep them occupied. We’ll simply be programmed like the Borg, on the Starship Enterprise, to do specific tasks.

I’d like to thank a woman in Sweden, who’s been asking for my books. They should be out tomorrow. And she’s a nice woman in her 80s. It shows you that age has nothing to do with following, studying, nor waking up to what’s really going on. And in some people, they simply have that hunger; others don’t. And we certainly cut through the nonsense that’s out there. And it’s top-heavy with nonsense, put out by the big boys of Tavistock, who also shove the authors out there, to write out thousands of books, to confuse you even more. And that’s always been the way they shape our minds into certain directions. So, I’d like to thank Maria, and they should be out tomorrow.

For those in Australia, who were asking about the international meeting I read from some time ago, it was actually, I thought it was in Melbourne, it was in Sydney, Australia, October 1938. It was the Royal Institute of International Affairs, World Meeting. Very important meeting. And they did have US members there from the CFR. Every attendant from every country is listed in the back. All the Australian delegates. They have the ones from New Zealand, Britain, Ireland even, and India. And in this book, they go through the entire Structure right up into 2000 and beyond, to create a New World Order and it’s those terms. A New World Order, and how they would use a structured system to control the people. A structured system run by experts, which of course, that is also backed up by Lord Bertrand Russell, who wrote The Impact of Science on Society. So, in this book, if you can get a hold of it, it was printed by the Oxford University Press, Toronto. It has a list of all the Royal Institutes: the Canadian Institute, the Australian Institute, the New Zealand, South African, and the one from India, and the United States of course, were in attendance. So it has all your big players.